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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 12:01 PM
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RW DPipes: blame Muslims and Danish socialists for everything
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/450

(article, rebuttal from 2 Danes, and Pipes' counter are from 2002)

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*Living on the dole: Third-world immigrants - most of them Muslims from countries such as Turkey, Somalia, Pakistan, Lebanon and Iraq - constitute 5 percent of the population but consume upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending.
*Engaging in crime: Muslims are only 4 percent of Denmark's 5.4 million people but make up a majority of the country's convicted rapists, an especially combustible issue given that practically all the female victims are non-Muslim. Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in other crimes.
*Self-imposed isolation: Over time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less to mix with the indigenous population. A recent survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim immigrants would readily marry a Dane.
*Importing unacceptable customs: Forced marriages - promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a male cousin in the home country, then compelling her to marry him, sometimes on pain of death - are one problem. Another is threats to kill Muslims who convert out of Islam. One Kurdish convert to Christianity, who went public to explain why she had changed religion, felt the need to hide her face and conceal her identity, fearing for her life.
*Fomenting anti-Semitism: Muslim violence threatens Denmark's approximately 6,000 Jews, who increasingly depend on police protection. Jewish parents were told by one school principal that she could not guarantee their children's safety and were advised to attend another institution. Anti-Israel marches have turned into anti-Jewish riots. One organization, Hizb-ut-Tahrir, openly calls on Muslims to "kill all Jews . . . wherever you find them."
*Seeking Islamic law: Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once Denmark's Muslim population grows large enough - a not-that-remote prospect. If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every third inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim.
Other Europeans (such as the late Pim Fortuyn in Holland) have also grown alarmed about these issues, but Danes were the first to make them the basis for a change in government.

In a momentous election last November, a center-right coalition came to power that - for the first time since 1929 - excluded the socialists. The right broke its 72-year losing streak and won a solid parliamentary majority by promising to handle immigration issues, the electorate's first concern, differently from the socialists.

more....

Many comments from 2002 to the present cartoon controversy.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 12:04 PM
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1. Funny, much of what was said
about Muslims being on the dole (ie "leeches on society"), not to be trusted because they keep to themselves, reminds me of what the Nazis said about the Jews in the 1930s. I don't agree with anti-Semitism, and some of the things reported, such as forced marriage, are cultural, and not backed up by the Qur'an.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 12:05 PM
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2. one interesting (?) post from a Muslim
Submitted by Mohamed (m_almargani@yahoo.com), Feb 2, 2006 at 10:01

We ..Muslims ... our value is our religion & our prophet as you can see from the boycott and protesting ... these things considered red line for us no tolerance from all Muslims and we are absolutely not talking about Osama bin laden and Hamas .. I am talking about the ordinary muslims.

Danes ... their value is MONEY ... how ? when their economy was hit by the boycott and they are losing about 1 billion a month from the arabic countries so they feared loss of MONEY therefore the newspaper apologized .. so the European / Danish values can bought by MONEY .. hence your values are so CHEAP.

If your freedom of speech means a value to you Danes / Europeans you should have not apologized but WE CAN BUY YOUR VALUES BY MONEY ..... CHEAP .. SO CHEAP

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SupplySideLiberal Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 12:53 PM
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3. low self esteem
I think the response of the Muslim poster and the mass reaction to a few cartoons both demonstrate a societal inferiority complex. I don't think that low cultural self esteem is going to be improved by the west accepting proclamations and acts of violence and hatred anymore than a bullying child is helped by indulging parents and teachers.

I think economic success in Muslim countries, and in Muslim populations in other countries, is the key over the long term. Unfortunately, that's tough to accomplish with despotic rulers in most Muslim countries and the economic apartheid in European countries.

In the mean time, I think the West should take pains to respect the good in Islam. After all, the main point of it is worsipping God, tha same as in any other religion. The Danish cartoonists had every right to publish their cartoons, but they were not helpful to anyone.
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