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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 01:35 AM
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What will it take for the GOP Senators to tell Bush to back off and will he?
Impeachment can't come soon enough and might be necessary if enough GOP Senators were to tell Bush "it's over".

They know it is their career and good name on the line too. Some are safe, like mine in Utah, but I'm sure many thought Burns and Allen (I love that pairing of names) were too.

If GOP leadership in Congress goes to Bush and says "enough, you will destroy our party" what does Bush do? I thought Bush put party over country (read: Greatest Story Ever Sold where Rich thinks the Iraq war was started to win the 2002 midterm elections) but what would he do now? Would he say: "I'll give up on Iraq and Iran to save my party" or will he say: "you all be damned. I'm right and you are wrong and history will prove it."

And while we are pondering unanswerable questions, why did he get rid of Rumsfeld? I can't believe Rummy wouldn't have sent in a paltry 21,500 more troops. Bush and Cheney still seem to be joined at the hip and Rummy was Cheney's mentor. Before this latest round of more troops and Cheney selling it too I thought maybe Cheney would be sidelined with Rummy but that's not right.

Who's calling the shots now and how far will he go?

Will they tell him? Will he do it? (I don't think they did already as rumor is Bush was surprised at how may GOP Senators won't support the surge.)
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 01:40 AM
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1. But, Bush puts self over everything including L:auira and Barney
He is the ultimate narcisist. He cannot conceive of thinking about anything other than himself and what he wants. It was the party when they were convienent and in power. Now that they are out of power he doesn't need them. He thinks they betrayed him. did not appreciate him enough to win for his 2 years left.
They left him expose to the democrats and so, he feels his party is no use.
It's always about him and what he wants and what he needs. He doesn't care about the party or anyone or anything.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 01:55 AM
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2. If he's surprised by the lack of support he's already been told
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 03:03 AM
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3. Polling numbers in the toilet, maybe?
A gaggle of them, sufficient to override a veto, going up to the WH and telling him he's screwed...??

It will have to be something along those lines.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 06:23 AM
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4. Bush is no Nixon. Bush will not listen to repug senators.
He will listen to no one.
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SutaUvaca Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 10:46 AM
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5. Agreed. Chumpster will not listen to any reason.
He and Deadeye will have to be locked up before this nation will be free a gain.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 03:13 PM
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14. Even then they will try to call the shots behind bars. nt
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:51 AM
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9. I don't think he will listen either
He's the Decider and he listens to nobody but himself.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:36 AM
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6. Senators like Collins, Snowe, Smith, Voinovich just about have...
only one hope for re-election now, switching to the Democratic party. When the moron Norm Coleman is pulling away from Chimpy, you know its bad.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:39 AM
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7. oh yea, when Norm Coleman disagrees with Bush you know
something is up.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:49 AM
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8. Looking at some pics posted of bush returning (early) from Camp David GOP meeting
I'd say they already have told him and explaind that they aren't in charge so his ass is grass; there WILL BE investigatios galore

Check out the Ashen Man in pics posted by DUer Kadie

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=3114655
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 02:12 PM
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10. and when they remind him he expanded presidential power which will go to a Dem
in 2008, that might give him pause too.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/12/AR2007011201952.html

Was it all about money? Was this all about power? Seeing those pictures of Bush I feel like I am watching some Greek tragedy.

Are they motivated the same way the terrorists are? To feel powerful because they are so powerless?

I want to live to be 100 so I can see how history sorts this all out.

If we're still around. . .
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 02:15 PM
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11. No, he will not listen...they were useful idiots as long as they played along
But once they left the ranch, so to speak, it's all over for them. Persona non grata, 2006 elections be damned.

Like the fundies, the military voters, and anyone else who bought their line, they've been had. And they should be pissed.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 02:17 PM
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12. The GOP can either impeach him or he can destroy their party
Edited on Tue Jan-16-07 02:18 PM by Rex
permanently. Those are their only two options. You would think supposed big business people would know how to determine the bottom line. Just another thing they lie about.
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 02:18 PM
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13. When * storms in to said Congressman's home
forcibly ties him up, and forces him to watch while he physically violates his wife, daughter and small dog.

This will work for the great majority of the GOP'ers, except for the few really die-hard Neo Cons, in which they will just consider the act to be gods Will, and will thank George for the privilege of seeing him perform his Holy mission.:grr: :nuke:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 03:27 PM
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15. Will Bush back off?
Bush has said publicly and many times that withdrawal from Iraq is an admission of failure, and he's not going to do that. Bush has also said publicly and many times that he isn't concerned about the current winds of popular opinion (except when he is), and that he is content to await history's judgment on his actions. History's judgment and God's, apparently.

Bush is, I think, absolutely persuaded that he is the instrument of God, and that his policies have the divine stamp of approval. An ordinary politician would try to cover his tracks or subtly change course in the face of such overwhelming public and political disapproval; for Bush, it just reinforces his preconceived notion that he's on the right track. Conventional methods of changing his attitude are doomed to failure. I think he would listen only to someone of a certain religious authority that he would respect, someone who's been with him since back in the day.

Unfortunately for the nation and the world, there isn't anyone with that kind of authority who thinks Bush is headed in the wrong direction. And there is a whole underground industry of folks thirsting for the apocalypse who support Bush and tell him what he wants to hear.

Our choices are narrowing rapidly.
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