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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:28 PM
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Steve Pelley referred to the "Democrat "leadership and the "Democrat"
plan last night. Was he sending a signal to the neo-cons that he's really on their side? Is that why CBS chose him or did KKKarl choose him?

PELLEY: The Democrat leadership says, "We wanna support the troops who are on the ground. We just wanna redline the extra 20,000."

BUSH: Yeah. I will resist that. That would mean that they're not willing to support a plan that I believe will work and solve the situation. Listen, we've got people criticizing this plan before it's had a chance to work. And I, therefore, think they have an extra responsibility to show us a plan that will work. In other words, they're saying, "We're not even gonna fund this thing." And they're not gonna give it a chance.

PELLEY: There's no Democrat plan.

page 3 of 5 60 minutes transcript.

It pissed me off royally but I haven't heard anyone mention it.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:32 PM
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1. Yes he did. I heard "There is no Democrat plan." Do they have a secret handshake too?
:evilfrown:
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:34 PM
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2. This was posted and discussed several times last night after the broadcast.
Your anger is shared by many others. :mad:
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:36 PM
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4. Sorry, I looked for it but didn't find in earlier posts. Glad to hear others were
pissed off too! Did everyone email CBS?
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:35 PM
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3. Mods, can you combine this with the five from last night?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:38 PM
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5. No "telepathy" needed. The repubes have done their job well
Just as photocopying became "Xeroxing"..ansd tissues became "kleenex"..and gelatin desserts became "jello"..

The public readily accepts terminology that becomes "mainstream"..even if it's dead-wrong.

Dems did not speak out when they had a chance, and now it's so readily accepted, that even DEMS say it..:grr:

Either way we lose now.

correct them and we appear "thin-skinned and touchy"..say nothing, and they think we are ok with it..

Unless everyone with microphone/camera/ink access stated calling them the "republic" party or "the repulsive" party (and then said.. oops a slip of the tongue..hey don't be so snippy there.." )nothing will change

My favorite would be to address whoever sayd it with a "new" name for themselves..and to stick with it..

Orrin Hatch::: Orrick Hutch
Dick Cheney::: Dickie Chainlink
George W:::: Georgette Bash
Condi:::: Condi-LIE-za Reese
Ted Stevens::: Teddy Steves
etc etc


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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:45 PM
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6. He may be a pinhead right winger or he may be a
pinhead who is taking his cues from pinheaded right wingers. The effect is exactly the same.

He came off as an ignorant man engaging in silly hero worship of a total moron.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:51 PM
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7. plan
I will never support a plan that sends our brave US soldiers to Iraq and their deaths..........period
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:58 PM
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8. nothing new for Pelley, or other members of the librul media:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200608160005

In recent months, media figures, including news reporters at CNN, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, the Chicago Tribune, and the Associated Press echoed Republicans by employing the word "Democrat" as an adjective to describe things or people of, or relating to, the Democratic Party -- including referring to the "Democrat" Party itself, even though that is not the party's name. The ungrammatical conversion of the noun "Democrat" to an adjective was the brainchild of Republican partisans, presumably an attempt to deny the opposing party the claim to being "democratic" -- or in the words of New Yorker magazine senior editor Hendrik Hertzberg, "to deny the enemy the positive connotations of its chosen appellation." In the early 1990s, apparently due largely to the urging of then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) and Republican pollster Frank Luntz, the use of the word "Democrat" as an adjective became near-universal among Republicans.

Hertzberg pointed out in an article for the August 7 issue of The New Yorker that the word "Democrat" is a noun, arguing that its use as an adjective defies the rules of English grammar:

The American Heritage College Dictionary, for example, defines the noun "Democratic Party" as "One of the two major US political parties, owing its origin to a split in the Democratic-Republican Party under Andrew Jackson in 1828." (It defines "Democrat n" as "A Democratic Party member" and "Democratic adj" as "Of, relating to, or characteristic of the Democratic Party," but gives no definition for -- indeed, makes no mention of -- "Democrat Party n" or "Democrat adj".) Other dictionaries, and reference works generally, appear to be unanimous on these points.

Hertzberg noted that Republicans "as far back as the Harding Administration" have referred to the "Democrat Party," including late Sen. Joseph McCarthy (R-WI), who "made it a regular part of his arsenal of insults," and former Sen. Bob Dole (R-KS), who "denounced 'Democrat wars' ... in his <1976> Vice-Presidential debate with Walter Mondale ."

Further, Hertzberg wrote that "among those of the Republican persuasion," the use of " 'Democrat Party' is now nearly universal" thanks to "Newt Gingrich, the nominal author of the notorious 1990 memo 'Language: A Key Mechanism of Control,' and his Contract with America pollster, Frank Luntz." While Hertzberg noted that Luntz "road-tested the adjectival use of 'Democrat' with a focus group in 2001" and "concluded that the only people who really dislike it are highly partisan adherents of the ... Democratic Party," he also wrote that Luntz had told him recently that "hose two letters <'ic'> actually do matter," and that Luntz "recently finished writing a book ... entitled 'Words That Work.' "

Notwithstanding its partisan pedigree and grammatical awkwardness, a Media Matters for America review* of the Nexis database for the last three months found a number of examples of media figures, including news reporters, using the word "Democrat" as an adjective. For instance, on the August 13 broadcast of CBS' Face the Nation, guest host and CBS News correspondent Scott Pelley used "Democrat" as an adjective four times, referring to both the "Democrat Party" and the "Democrat primary," during an interview with Connecticut Democratic Senate candidate Ned Lamont.
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:16 PM
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9. Republic, keep calling them
republics until it sticks.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:18 PM
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10. Paid Rove stooge. Pelley should get the 'golden kneepads' award!
If there was such an award. :evilgrin:
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