Enjoy bizarre delusions? Here's one from the Naval War College

[Jackpine Radical]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20070112/cm_csm/yowens_1

(complete with a little fillip about how We Really Should Have Won Vietnam)

NEWPORT, R.I. - The strategy that the president outlined Wednesday night does not represent an altogether new approach to Iraq, but a necessary adaptation of the previous strategy to changed circumstances. It is, in effect, an updating of the National Strategy for Victory in Iraq he issued in November 2005.

President Bush's prime-time address acknowledged the shortcomings of past efforts to secure Baghdad. And he implied that this new effort to do so represents a final opportunity to salvage victory in Iraq. Failure in Iraq, he warned, would be a disaster. But Mr. Bush's plan can work.

Strategy is the interplay of ends, ways, and means. Strategic thinking implies limited means. There are never enough resources to achieve all goals, so choices must be made concerning how best to apply limited resources.

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The third factor is Congress. Would the Democrats rather see Bush lose or the US win? Let us hope that the Demo-crats take the wise counsel of one of their own, Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, who reminded us the other day that the stark choice in Iraq is between victory and defeat.

[EstimatedProphet]

1. Shitheels

[Warpy]

2. The US military never stopped trying to fight the Vietnam War

Once the shooting ended and we were thrown out of that country, they failed to deal with the fact that the war had been unwinnable from the time Eisenhower sent in those first military advisers. Instead, they wallowed in humiliation and swore it would never happen to our mighty military again.

That's how someone as obnoxious as Rumsfeld, hated by superiors and subordinates alike, was able to become so powerful. He promised to redesign the military so that it would be a light, fast, easily deployed force that could win any sort of guerrilla war, anywhere. In other words, the military had been humiliated enough by a country full of little men in black jammies that it would do anything to salvage its pride by pretending that old commanders had been shortsighted and ignorant about fighting that war.

It remains to be seen whether or not the Iraq Occupation will finally teach those old boys the true lesson of Vietnam: the only way to win such a war is to stay out of it.

The chickenhawks, of course, will never give up on the idea.

[hedgehog]

5. If the "insurgency" in Viet Nam was defeated in 1960, then why the hell

did we ever go in?

I heard this mantra on Diane Rehm the other day from Lt. Gen. William Odom that the US really won the war in Viet Nam but that the US public just didn't have the guts to follow through. It was held up as a warning that we'll win in Iraq unless we civilians chicken out again.

[n2doc]

3. Lieberman "One of their (Democrats) own"?!?

Didn't he get the memo from holy Joe? What a moran....This delusional person should spend some hime in the "liberated" Falluja and see just how "defeated" the insurgents are...

[Shipwack]

4. My reply...

"Let us hope that the Demo-crats take the wise counsel of one of their own, Sen.Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, who reminded us the other day that the stark choice in Iraq is between victory and defeat."

So, I'm supposed to take seriously a gentleman that resorts to childish name calling of those who hold a different view?

Oh, and Senator Lieberman is not a Democrat in name or by action, which is why he was rejected by his own party in Connecticut's primary.

Obviously the bar for being allowed to teach at the War College is lower than it used to be, or is based on political leanings instead of intellectual prowess.

The choice between "victory and defeat" was made long ago by this administration, when they ignored advice on initial troop strength, forbade military planners to plan for post war Iraq, and staffed the re-construction office with incompetent carpet bagging cronies. The choice we now face is how many more men and women are going to be squandered to preserve the President's pride.

[NNadir]

6. This guy is stating his own opinion, not that of the "war" college.

Just to be clear...

[nealmhughes]

7. Indeed, he is one guy there, not speaking ex cathedera. Every institution

has nutjobs, that is what helps keep academia fun!