---Senate Foreign Relations Cmte. & Condi THREAD 2 ---

[annabanana]

#1
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3094128&mesg_id=3094128

Benchmarks,... We need deadlines...

[dogday]

1. Norm Coleman up

[goclark]

4. Condi spinning

He needs to stick it to her```

[rodeodance]

14. He has a good critical question and comments. whow

[Eurobabe]

149. I'm shocked at Norm's cynicism, shocked, this is HUGH!

I thought he was going to throw her softballs.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

189. His political life is on the line. Every R knows that Bush is poison to their careers

The question is if they will vote to remove his sorry ass from office when the time comes.

[BurtWorm]

2. Have they asked about the raid on the Iranian embassy?

[annabanana]

10. not a whisper..

[rodeodance]

left talk radio had a guy on says it was not a raid--they KNOCKED

[rodeodance]

3. watch on cspan 3 here

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan3_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

[rodeodance]

5. Kerry just did great. Condi frustrated and testy

[Cameron27]

6. Thanks for the link.

[Monkeyman]

12. She just used the Race Card from the 60's what a piece of S----

[rodeodance]

21. yeah, not necessary to bring that in.

[TornadoTN]

7. I see she bought her new shoes

Tap-dancing shoes to be exact. I haven't seen someone answer questions without answering questions in such a condescending tone since, well, ever.

[underpants]

8. Thanks annabanana

:thumbsup:

[Hepburn]

WTF???

Birmingham PD and death squads in Baghdad???

Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!?!?!?!?!

[LSK]

17. uhhh yeah, this is not new news....

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

9. i hope someone asks her about plans for our embassy in baghdad

[rodeodance]

11. see some Kerry questioning here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3094885&mesg_id=3094885

[underpants]

13. Condi went back into the bag to pull out her "wonderful personal story"

about cops coming into her neighborhood in Birmingham and how that wasn't a good thing.

[goclark]

20. I thought she never was faced with Civil Rights

struggles as a child.

Now she is trying to have people think she gave a damn!

Shut Up Condi --- You LIE!

[bdamomma]

32. I think she is doing this

:nopity:

[Jack Rabbit]

114. She did

One of the children killed in the 1963 Birmingham Sunday school bombing was a playmate of hers.

But you're right. It is not relevant to the matter at hand.

[renate]

140. I'm not watching so I don't know what her point was

If she knew one of the little girls killed in Birmingham, I would have expected her to be extra sensitive about being responsible for the same thing happening to a little girl in Iraq. Guess not, though.

[Jack Rabbit]

Moral ambiguity is the human condition

That goes for her, too.

[goclark]

198. Our family friend was an aunt to one of the little girls

I remember how sad we all were at the time.

We were crying and we had never been to Birmingham and didn't know the precious child personally.

Condi must be one COLD and EVIL woman to have lived through an experience like that and then go to see a play and buy shoes while our brothers and sisters waded in the Waters of Katrina.

:spank:

[LSK]

15. remember the days when GOP senators were cheerleaders for Bush???

Glad those days are over!

[rodeodance]

16. Coleman seems NOT to support this surge

[rodeodance]

18. condi keeps saying she is clear eyed --like she knows what

she is talking about

[LSK]

19. he is scared to death of a Franken run for his seat

[rodeodance]

24. is Franken still thinking of running?

[LSK]

30. probably, havnt listened to his show much this year yet

Too much going on on CSPAN! :rofl:

[underpants]

35. Oh yeah I don't think there is any doubt about that

[Norquist Nemesis]

37. Yea, as much as its nice to see these Cons suddenly

changing their tune, the ones like Coleman I just automatically tune out. Can't help it. He still looks like a slimy used car salesman to me.

[Norquist Nemesis]

47. "It is time to use the power of the purse"

[bdamomma]

43. he doesn't support this not at all

we need more repigs to disagree with the chimp. so far we got Hagel, Brownback and Coleman, we need a few more.

[northernsoul]

he thinks he can save his ass in 2008

too effing late, Bushboy, Minnesota's got yer number - prepare for proper clock-cleaning next year.

[rodeodance]

22. she is saying she will listen to 'our' military and political people.

[dogday]

25. And if she doesn't like what they say, they will retire

sound familiar? They will get an Admiral to oversee two ground wars... That's smart...

[TornadoTN]

23. Feingold up - "True nightmare and greatest foreign policy mistake in our history"

Go get em' Russ!

[dogday]

31. I really like this guy

What a statesman he is....

[TornadoTN]

38. Same here - would have loved to have him in 08'

But he's such an asset in the Senate. What a statesman! I'm so impressed!

[OKNancy]

Feingold "greatest foreign policy mistake

in our history"

[LSK]

26. Russ!!

[Hepburn]

27. Oooooooh, now Feingold....

...need more popcorn for this...and it is only 8:30 AM on the West Coast.

[underpants]

28. Feingold is up

Worst political and foreign policy decision in our nation's history

[LSK]

41. Russ is calling to defund the ENTIRE WAR

[underpants]

45. 'It is time for the power of the purse to bring our troops out of Iraq'

says that it continues to be based on lies (not his word)

[rodeodance]

29. heads up. Russ Fiengold

[rodeodance]

33. talking of 4 years of FAILed policies.

[rodeodance]

36. russ says people sent CLEAR message on election day

[rodeodance]

40. says we need to use the 'power of the purse"

[Cameron27]

42. He's doing great

redeploy out of Iraq NOW.

Time to use the power of the purse to bring our troops out of Iraq!

[Hepburn]

34. I am standing here in my PJs and applauding Russ!

Go, Russ, go!!!!!!!!!!

[rodeodance]

72. he is socking it to condi gal. whow whow

[dogday]

39. Russ said it is time to redeploy our troops our of Iraq now!

Condi- (crickets chirping, strange silence)

[Hepburn]

49. The first question....

....OMG.......she is toast on this one.

Because there is NO good answer!!!

Russ ~~ you got her!!

[TornadoTN]

44. Russ: "From the beginning, this war has been a mistake"

[underpants]

62. Q1'Are we more secure than we were before we went into Iraq?"

Condi"We are more secure but we are not secure"

Russ "Are we more secure vis a vis our involvement in Iraq?"

HE has to ask her several times.

[Greeby]

46. Forget Reid, Feingold for Senate Majority Leader!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[dogday]

48. We need to repair and strengthen our Military

getting applause....

[rodeodance]

50. HO HO. Condi saying we are MORE secure since we went

into IRaq

[rodeodance]

53. russ asked her the quesion. te he. she is flustered

[Cameron27]

51. Are we more secure from Al Queda?

Condi sputtering.

[rodeodance]

57. sputter spin sputter spin

[rodeodance]

60. What about Afgan? russ keeps saying That is NOT what I

asked.

whow

[rodeodance]

russ asking if better off in NK since we invaded Iraq--ho ho

[dogday]

52. Russ has got Condi stuttering

He is a great Attorney.... Get em Russ....

[underpants]

FEINGOLD IS NAILING HER!!!

Not letting her stick to the talking points

Brings up No.Korea and Iran ARE WE MOR SECURE? IS THE MILITARY BETTER OFF?

[underpants]

78. 'Diversion of our attention to Iraq has been absolutely catestrophic to our security'

Quote end quote

[TornadoTN]

54. Russ has Condi stupified...totally off her game

Voice is raising, trembling...frustration apparent.

[Blackhatjack]

55. "Are We More Secure As A Result of Our Iraqi Intervention?" ---

Ans: "....don't confuse what we are doing in Iraq in the short term ...."

[Blackhatjack]

63. Preview of Congressional Investigations to come.... how ya like it so far Condi? n/t

[Blackhatjack]

70. Condi pulls out the Saddam is boogeyman card... and it just does not play. n/t

[Bluerthanblue]

56. Rice compaired what we want to help the Iraqi's do

with what it was like during her childhood in Birmingham Ala. seeing the "police" comming into the neighborhood.

Holy shit..... Is she saying that we are going to enable the Iraqi military to harrass those in the country that are the minority or persecuted class????

Because, being black in Birmingham in the time she speaks of, was being oppressed, terrorized, and afraid of 'the police'.

I'm losing my mind.... what ever was left of it....??????

[Bluerthanblue]

74. someone should ask "Is NOLA better off now???"

she doesn't see that we have focused on this mess to the detriment of everything....

[LSK]

58. Russ: Are we more secure since our incursion into Iraq

SPIN SPIN SPIN

[LSK]

HOLY SHIT, RUSS FOR PRESIDENT!!!!! HES PRACTICALLY YELLING AT HER

[Cameron27]

59. I understand the argument

I completely REJECT IT.

[dogday]

61. I understand the argument, I completely reject it....

Russ is great, I want him to be President.... Answer the questions Condi....

[Cameron27]

66. He's nailing her

OMG!

[Nickster]

64. Why the heck isn't Russ running for Prez in 2008? n/t

[TornadoTN]

65. Russ is interweaving EVERYTHING together perfectly - Is our military better off?

[rodeodance]

russ talking of our strain on our military since our invasion

[Beelzebud]

67. Russ is not backing down for second! Won't let her duck his questions.

She looks like she's about to start crying...]

She is so incompetent it's sick.

[rodeodance]

86. oh, he is attaching her integrity!! te he. recall when she

accused Boxer of doing that.

[Eurobabe]

158. While we are removing Dick-tater and Crashcart, get rid of this Condiliar too?

puhlease????

Wow, Russ was awesome.

[bdamomma]

68. these guys must know about Iran, and this whole escalation thing

Russ Feingold is great, thanks for the updating. Has Boxer grilled her yet? I love when Barbara grilled her that one time.

[LSK]

76. Boxer coming up

[Hepburn]

69. OMG.......Condi Rice.....

...as useless as tits on a bull.

I mean she does not even SPIN well. Color her totally PATHETIC.

[TornadoTN]

71. Rice says "Iranian nuclear weapon is, by the way, in development"

wow...its coming

[bdamomma]

102. is she going to mention the mushroom cloud shit again

geez, I wish I took the day off work today.

[TornadoTN]

184. I'm watching from work!

I wasn't going to miss this, she is getting exposed!

[NYC Liberal]

73. Condi is such a TERRIBLE liar. She should never play poker.

[Mist]

75. Is Condi seriously making the argument that our intervention has made

the Middle East MORE stable? In-fuckin-credible.

[Beelzebud]

79. Yes she is. She is a dumb ass.

[rodeodance]

80. she is Trying to that!

[underpants]

88. Yep she said that it WAS more secure

:wow:

[rodeodance]

77. condi is condensending to Russ..

[Avalux]

81. She hate him -

wants to rip his eyes out. :rofl:

[TornadoTN]

82. Corker up - not proud to say he's my Senator

He won't forget who is master is....damn.

[Norquist Nemesis]

89. For the first time since she started, she's looking relieved

She's got a friend in Corker, for sure.

[TornadoTN]

93. FUCKING OUTRAGED

I'm outraged at this man...not that I expected any different, but my state doesn't support this war.

[Blackhatjack]

83. Has anyone asked her about Bush's plans regarding Iran mentioned last night?? n/t

[rodeodance]

94. not the last half hour anyway

[dogday]

84. Russ shook Condi up a good deal

She said, you not the one who goes to the office and works on this everyday... Oh she lost her Kewl!!!!

[Hepburn]

96. She came across as...

..REAL defensive on that one.

[LSK]

85. Corker: the 1st drunk Kool-aid Senator

[Hepburn]

87. Corker on...

...gave her an opening to talk about why redeployment would be bad.

[TornadoTN]

90. Corker is softballing so Condi can feel better

Says "Things will have to get worse, before they get better." Says that those who want to withdraw don't understand that.

[Beelzebud]

95. She still looks like she's about to burst into tears.

I'm looking at a person that is in way over her head...

Heckuva job, Condi... Heckuva job....

[TornadoTN]

100. Thanks to Russ! n/t

[Hepburn]

105. My thoughts exactly...

...the quavering voice is a give away. But then...maybe the new pair of shoes she is wearing gave her blisters and this is really the problem and not that she is bleeding from a thousand cuts.

[Cocoa]

Condi gets a breather

Corker lobbing softballs.

[Mist]

91. OMFG--Corker of TN characterizes what's going on now as a "measured civil war" nt

[Cameron27]

92. Things have to get worse before they get better?

WTF?

How much worse, how many lives.

[TornadoTN]

97. Rice back on the talking points

Thanks to Corker - what a bastard.

[rodeodance]

98. she is really DENSE

[Norquist Nemesis]

109. She has a whole lot of "IF"s in her speech

IF they do this and IF it goes this way. Those are some pretty big IF's, Condi.

Boxer up!

[LSK]

99. Rice: We dont have death squads, but then describes that we have death squads

:crazy:

[Greeby]

101. I'm waiting for when they get to Webb

See her try to bullshit a man whose son is there

[TornadoTN]

106. Admire Virginians - Webb is a great asset

I live not far from VA, so I put a Webb sticker on my car beside my Ford, Jr. one.

[Hepburn]

115. Right on!!!!! n/t

[LSK]

118. Webb will be last, probably an hour from now

[Bluerthanblue]

103. watch the guy behind condi- he's not impressed with her- funny

facial expressions....

:silly:

[cspanlovr]

195. Yea, he smiles when she gets a tough question. I'm watching him too.

[Blackhatjack]

104. Condi says "People have the wrong idea about what is going on in Iraq" yeah we overlooked the deaths

These folks try to paint a picture that just does not exist,

....and the tone is that everyone but them is uninformed.

[LSK]

107. Corker ended early, Boxer up

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[graywarrior]

108. Boxer!!

[Greeby]

110. Boxer up

:popcorn:

[dogday]

111. Boxer is in the house

Should be good....

[Hepburn]

112. Corker passes the ball to...BOXER!!!!

Need more popcorn....

[TornadoTN]

113. Boxer up: "I'm proud that today marks the end of the Rubber Stamp Senate"

GO Barbara!

[Sydnie]

116. Go Barbara Boxer GO! n/t

[Norquist Nemesis]

128. She's putting up the quotes now!

GOOOOOOO BARBARA!!!!!

[dogday]

117. You are not listening Madam Secretary!!!

Who are you listening to???

[TornadoTN]

119. "From where I sit, YOU are not listening, you are only listening to yourself"

Wow!

[Roland99]

196. Oh, I love her for that one!!!

[rodeodance]

120. Boxer telling condi YOU ARE NOT listening to other people

[rodeodance]

125. boy she is really Laying into Condi

[rodeodance]

129. ASKS CONDI wHO PAYS THE PRICE--THE MILITARY FAMILIES

[rodeodance]

130. she is talking about the dead and wounded

[rodeodance]

132. she talks of 2 urns coming back in one coffin

[rodeodance]

135. talking of the troops with Burns

[Cameron27]

121. Military Times goes into the record!!!

Only you know who you are listening to!

[Blackhatjack]

122. Q "Why Does Bush think Iraq needs Patriot Missiles to break up Iranian incursions into Iraq?"

Does Al Qaeda have missiles they will fire into Iraq?

Is this not just further evidence that Bush intends to expand the war against Iran and Syria?

[Hepburn]

123. BOXER:

"Only YOU know who you are listening to!"

Great line...and then starts quoting Condi's prior BS and lies!

Go, Barbara, go!!!!!!!

[LSK]

124. Boxer showing her words from last year to her LOL

[Beelzebud]

126. LOL There goes Boxer using Condi's own words to impune her integrity! :D lol

[dogday]

127. You had no doubt Madam Secretary nt

[WinkyDink]

131. If looks could kill....Barbara would be another casualty.

[graywarrior]

133. She shuts her hearing off. Selective hearing for Condi. Robot.

[TornadoTN]

134. "Who is going to pay the price? Not me, not you" - Boxer nt

[rodeodance]

139. boxer is hitting the emotional button

[dogday]

Barbara asked who is going to pay the price?

Condi looking like a stone statue, trying not to acknowledge their decisions are killing people...

[LSK]

136. if this doesnt make Condi cry, nothing will

How long until she resigns?

[Nimrod2005]

143. I wish I was watching....sounds awesome!

[LSK]

155. best moment since the Pelosi election a week ago

[rodeodance]

178. just her usual scowl

[Greeby]

137. Boxer going into the soldiers dying

"Who pays the price? Not me, not you." :patriot:

[in_cog_ni_to]

138. Oh MY! CondiLIAR looks PISSED! Boxer's kicking her ass up between her shoulders!

Can't wait to hear the liar's reply.

[rodeodance]

147. it is the Condi scowl

[shadowknows69]

141. GO BOXER!!!

Smacking condi down!!

[Hepburn]

142. Barbara Boxer...bless you.

You brought the realities home...the REAL stats, the human stats about this hell that BushCo created in Iraq.

Amen, Barbara...amen....

[TornadoTN]

144. "I want to point out to the American people, WE are all alone" - Boxer nt

[Beelzebud]

145. Feingold mortally wounded her, and Boxer is finishing her off. LOL

[dogday]

157. Absolutely, Feingold tore her a new one

and Boxer is just twisting the knife now....

[Blackhatjack]

146. Boxer -"We are all alone .... No one is standing with us"

This is it in a nutshell.

[graywarrior]

148. WE ARE ALL ALONE

[dogday]

150. We are all alone.. Nobody else is standing with us

What's wrong with that picture? Looks like everyone else understands we need to leave Iraq....

[Bluerthanblue]

151. "we are all alone""........profound truth......Boxer nails it

[Beelzebud]

Barbara Boxer is an American treasure. Feingold too. Just great!!!

[Cameron27]

152. Into the record...

British pulling out.

We are all alone....no one is joining us in this surge.

Do you have an estimate of casualties expected in this surge?

[Cocoa]

153. Condi answers, "yeah, so what?"

paraphrasing her response to Boxer asking her about the British pulling troops.

[rodeodance]

154. condi asked if she has an Est for the # of dead for this surge

[Norquist Nemesis]

161. Oops! Condi single handedly lost the military with that answer

"No. I don't think there's anyway to know that."

From what I understand, the military does estimates of casualties with conflicts. Am I wrong about that?

[Hepburn]

156. Fuck you, Condi.........

...you UNDERSTAND the sacrifice???? You lying POS!

[Eurobabe]

165. Boxer and Condi going at it...

Condi is snarling witch.

[WinkyDink]

171. Merely as an intellectual exercise, you understand. she means she knows that some numbers are bigger

than others, dead is the opposite of alive, etc.

She is as dead inside as her bosses.

[TornadoTN]

159. Boxer putting her back on track! nt

[rodeodance]

160. boxer upset---WH not calculated in the number of dead

[quiet.american]

162. Excellent! Boxer cut her off -- we don't care about your phony feelings, Condi. n/t

[ClayZ]

163. Whoo Hooo Barbara Boxer!

[LSK]

164. no estimates on casualties??????

[LSK]

166. new thread time?

[TornadoTN]

167. WOW! Boxer slams back after Condi tries to dodge her own words

Boxer: "O5, you said it was going great"
Condi: "No, I didn't - things have changed since them." Continues to blame on Al Quaida

[Beelzebud]

168. ROFL Condi LIEING about the direct quote Boxer showed her! LOL

Boxer: "Put it up again", and now behind Boxer is the very quote Condi is trying to LIE about.

[dogday]

169. Condi Condi Condi

come one now, it is a matter of record... When it suited your purpose to say this, you didn't think about the future, did you?

[Oreo]

175. Augmentation

Shame on her... she is such slime

[LSK]

170. new thread up

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3095443

[LSK]

181. new thread is up

[rodeodance]

172. condi has no credibility

[Cameron27]

173. Boxer looks at her with total disgust.

[Hepburn]

174. Sunnunu up......n/t

[TornadoTN]

176. Sununu (R-NH) - touches on Iran engagement in Iraq matter.

We'll see where this goes.

[Blackhatjack]

177. Imagine if Bush were answering these Questions instead of Condi....

... he would have already thrown a fit, cursed out the committee members using his favorite F word, and stomped out.

Boy, Condi is getting a good idea of what lies ahead. Sure is going to be interesting to see how questioning proceeds with Democratic Committee Chairs running the show, and no Republican Chair to cut off the mikes and turn off the lights.

[rodeodance]

185. I hope she gets the idea of things to come!!

[Future Principal]

179. Keep jawjacking Sununu. . .you're political life is in deep Dudu!!!

you'll be out of a job in 2008!!!

[rodeodance]

180. recommended

[rodeodance]

182. saying no one has seen the 'remarkable' Oil law"

[Future Principal]

183. What is the damn time line then, you lying sack of Dr. Gap!!!

evasion!!!!!!

[TornadoTN]

186. Well, we see whats important to the G.O.P. - Money

Economic matters trump all

[shadowknows69]

187. Did COndi just say parts of Iraq are "underdeveloped?"

because we bombed them to rubble. Nice euphemism.

[rodeodance]

188. talking of lack of Arab speakers. umm.. recall gays being

kicked out of miliary who had these skills? yup

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

191. I recollect the same thing. eom

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

190. Has Nelson finally grown a "set"????? eom

[TornadoTN]

192. No - saw a glimmer of hope, but he's back to the ole' softshoe. n/t

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

193. I wrote too soon.............eom

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

194. Voinovich coming on very strongly in doubt of Shrub's plan. eom

[annabanana]

197. THREAD 4 HERE:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3095834&mesg_id=3095834