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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:44 AM
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Sen. Kennedy seeks universal health plan
Edited on Wed Jan-10-07 11:44 AM by LSK
WASHINGTON - The federal government should join his home state of Massachusetts in enacting universal health coverage, says Sen. Edward Kennedy (news, bio, voting record), the new chairman of the Senate committee with jurisdiction over numerous health issues.

Massachusetts is the first state to require everyone to have health insurance, just as drivers must have automobile coverage.

Kennedy has his own version of what universal health coverage would look like. He wants to extend Medicare to all. But, in prepared remarks for a hearing scheduled Wednesday, he signaled an intent to consider programs being tried in the states.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070110/ap_on_go_co/kennedy_health

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Im dont like how Mass went about it, but I like the idea of extending Medicare for all, provided we get our financial house in order by ending needless wars.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:52 AM
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1. That's not universal coverage!
:grr:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:53 AM
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2. medicare for all is
:shrug:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 12:02 PM
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6. Well yeah that is...
but this mandatory coverage thing is not. I'm sorry, I wasn't grring at you...

I saw a snippet about this this morning and it just really ticks me off.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 12:07 PM
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8. I agree with you on the mandatory coverage thing
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:55 AM
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3. seeing the smoking threads, obesity judgment, threads on mountain climbers
and then blair in england and australia wanting to add conditions on their health care. i have switched position and wont be supporting this.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:56 AM
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4. supporting the Mass method or Universal HC in general?
:shrug:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 12:00 PM
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5. any of it. take it out of my control, and then allow govt to apply restrictions
Edited on Wed Jan-10-07 12:01 PM by seabeyond
on access to health care judging who is worthy is morally disgusting and i will not support it. i will actively share the "slippery slope that doesnt exist" loud and clear. this board has convinced me not to support a govt health care. they couldnt do it in ethical manner. agenda had to rule. i wont support.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 12:06 PM
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7. I have seen no talk about restrictions on access
Edited on Wed Jan-10-07 12:07 PM by LSK
Universal implies that ALL are entitled to it. I do not know if Europe has such restrictions but I doubt it. Europe also allows for more preventive measures that our current private insurance system looks down on and that keeps their costs down.

I avoided the smoking threads and obesity threads because quite frankly they are very stupid.

Im sorry you are turning your back on a system that the rest of the civilized world has proven to be quite successful.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 12:16 PM
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11. well... blair is trying to get thru restriction, adn there was recently an article
Edited on Wed Jan-10-07 12:19 PM by seabeyond
on australia. and since u.s. seems to be passing absurd smoking laws thru out the nation not to mention a lot of other non thinking nanny laws, i doo not trust our nation with something as big as peoples healthcare. instead of dimissing my concern, i would hope others would stridently support my belief that we are all insured as universal implies. that includes the alcoholic, the druggey, the smoker, the person that geneticaly has poor health and the person that may create the poor health thru life behaviors.

i am not confident

those threads may be stupid, but they are respresentitive of what is going on in the nation. a whole lot of stupid. and i dont want our health care dependent on a whole lot of stupid

instead of the little jab at me for turning back on universal health care,.... dismissing me? or implying i am uncivilized? i would suggest my concern for all people, the worst and the best of us is .... caring for the whole.... liberal belief
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 12:26 PM
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12. again, Universal Healthcare implies for ALL
Edited on Wed Jan-10-07 12:27 PM by LSK
Australia is not in Europe and is traditionally more conservative.

Blair is a hated politician in England.

Is there any effort for these type of restrictions in

France
Germany
Ireland
The Netherlands
Belgium
Denmark
Italy
Greece
Norway
Sweden
Finland
New Zealand
Switzerland
Canada
??

As I have said I support Universal Healthcare. I wasnt even aware of restrictions until you posted. I am not aware that said restrictions are part of Senator Kennedys proposal.

Do you support Universal Healthcare without restrictions?

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 12:35 PM
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13. of course it will have to be a watch and see and listen. i was supportive of it
but i do not trust our "we the people" to stand up for my right for health care. that is where i stand at this moment.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 12:13 PM
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9. I just love it when DU drunkards tell people not to smoke.
:crazy:

A share the high misgiving that national health care will exacerbate the Nanny State oppression beyond all tolerance. The intellectually dishonest hyperbole is even more extreme than the Cheney/Bush/Rice/Powell hyperbole 'justifying' the Iraq invasion and occupation. It's amazing that supposedly 'intelligent' people can wallow in such extremism and be blissfully unaware of the deceits.

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 12:15 PM
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10. Kennedy is a smart old dude who sees
that for profit insurance companies are the problem and can never be part of the solution. Of course, the conservatives in both parties will howl nonstop about creeping socialism.

Maybe this will finally convince the American public that socialism isn't a cuss word and a little more of it in their lives might be a good thing.
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