NBC corrects false global warming comments, sends rightwingers into a tailspin!!!

[Harper_is_Bush]

A couple days back I posted the details of an NBC segment about the weather in which Dennis Feltgen from NOAA said "it's not global warming at all Brian, it's El Nino, El Nino, El Nino (as he bangs fist)."
That post, complete with video link, is here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3064058

I guess NBC reached into their credibility jar and pulled out a cookie, because they decided to consult some experts and put the lie to Dennis Feltgen's claim:

What’s global warming got to do with it?
The Earth’s warming pattern can magnify existing weather patterns
....
On Friday we looked into it. We invited Dennis Feltgen, a 30-year veteran weather forecaster on the broadcast and asked him about it. He said "it's not global warming at all...it is El Nino, El Nino, El Nino."

Since then, NBC News Chief Science Correspondent Robert Bazell talked to experts who say there is a relationship between this strange El Nino winter and global warming — and there'll be more where that came from.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16531081/

Now NewsBusters has a piece out:
Flip-Flop: After a Few Liberals Whine, NBC Blames Odd Weather On Global Warming

And Business and Media Institute has a piece out:
'Once and For All' Lasts Just 72 Hours

I love it. Stupid rightwingers think the truth is a Liberal bias!

(not going to link the tripe peddlers....google "dennis feltgen" in latest news if you want to see them)

[wtmusic]

1. "reached into their credibility jar and pulled out a cookie"

*splort* :rofl:

thank you!

[Harper_is_Bush]

24. ur welcome. in all modesty i gotta admit, dat wuz fuhnny! nt

[Beaverhausen]

2. what is with right wingers and global warming anyway?

Why are they so dead set against believing it?

[Kurovski]

6. I know. And yet they believe there is a terrorist at every bus stop.

They're pretty much nuts.

What was that other thing called? Cognitive dissonance? Maybe that's a part of it, too.

[Harper_is_Bush]

7. I have a theory about that......it's too overwhelming for their weak minds.

Seriously...I think at this point the people who argue against it or grasp onto stupid stuff like "medieval warm period" or "glaciers are growing" are quite simply not mentally able to handle the reality.

Their minds are in self-protect mode.

[lvx35]

8. Boy, I really wonder about that one myself.

You'd think the big money players behind the Republicans have invested in loads of land in Siberia and northern Canada...

[Possumpoint]

9. If

they admit that man is responsible in any way then the next question to be answered is what would need to be done to correct the problem. For some reason, the concept of restraints being placed on corporate or man's actions is repugnant to them. In particular the Kato agreements with exclusions given to third world economy's is particularly egregious to them. How dare someone have a leg up on them. They want the right to continue to use/abuse the earth to their exclusive profit. They do not accept the possibility of responsibility to future generations.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

11. It's much simpler than that.

Conservatives are against the idea of global warming only because liberals believe in it.

They have to be contrarian.

[Clark2008]

19. Either that - or because they believe that Al Gore invented the term.

I'm pretty sure some of them do believe that.

[Harper_is_Bush]

14. I like your theory too. And welcome to DU! n/t

[Bluebear]

12. Everything must be as it was in 1957.

Nothing can ever, ever change.

[Oleladylib]

18. Hey,that happened to be one hell of a good year but we don't

need to go back there...Ah, the memories. I wouldn't change a thing about that year but I sure as h would change alot about this one.

[Toucano]

17. If they acknowledge the TRUTH, they would have to CHANGE.

Change is the thing they fear the most.

[Triana]

25. Bingo! (n/t)

[Harper_is_Bush]

26. ding ding ding ding n/'t

[NotGivingUp]

21. yeah... i don't really understand that either. i think it may be that

they are intent on believing the MSM no matter what.

[villager]

3. Rightwingers: It is time for you to divest *all your GE stock!*

Put your money where your (constantly running) mouths are!

[Poiuyt]

4. Global warming should be a scientific debate, not a political one

And the vast majority of scientists believe that global warming IS occurring and that it IS related to human activity. Perhaps a few people hired by Exxon will refute the consensus in the scientific community

[Harper_is_Bush]

15. Have you read the letter sent to EXXON's new chairman by two Senators last Oct?

Snowe and Rockerfeller (one R, one D) sent it.

Bit of a long read, but excellent. And heartening.

Read it here:
http://snowe.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=9acba744-802a-23ad-47be-2683985c724e

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[Mojambo]

5. "Reality has a well known liberal bias"

Stephen Colbert - 2006

[StClone]

16. DUers were posting stuff like that

Before Colbert.

I would rather think that the truth is the truth and the Wingdings would rather deny what's right there in their faces. Some, honest to God, swear that so called "WMDs" are somewhere still in Iraq (or Syria). Hard nuts.

[mvd]

10. I love that statement - reality has a liberal bias

BTW, anyone know why weather forecasters/meteorologists tend to have more global warming skeptics than scientists as a whole? Could it be the influence of the National Weather Service, which is a government agency? And we know this government is the anti-science government.

[WiseButAngrySara]

13. Well DUH! ..a relationship between El Nino and global

warming?

[Harper_is_Bush]

20. midnight kick. Dennis Feltgen should be fired, agree/disagree?

If you agree, see my OP link for links to NOAA contact emails.

Also express your feelings to NBC.

Nobody should be allowed to go on national TV and make such irresponsible comments about such an important issue.

[Stephanie]

22. too late - my mother, the nature-loving liberal Democrat, believes it's just El Nino

they convinced her not to worry, and how many others?

[Harper_is_Bush]

23. too late my a$$. You tell you mothe she is wrong and replace

all of her lightbulbs.

Action speaks louder than words.

[Stephanie]

27. I get your point but your attitude is offensive.

Just so you know, you're not winning any friends this way. My point was that millions of people, well-intentioned people like my Mom, already got the wrong message. Just like when the Times runs the error on page one and the correction on page 19. But you go right ahead and yell at me about light bulbs, because that's really helpful.

[Harper_is_Bush]

30. WTH? What's offensive about my attitude?

exactly?

I'm not sure I want to make friends out of people who'd be offended over something as tame as that.

[radfringe]

28. plants and CO2 - good article

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2005/08/02_carbon.shtml

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I also heard a story on NPR about CO2 and plants - (sorry can't locate it on-line)

according to the story - Plants absorb on a limited amount of CO2, they absorb only what they need. there were experiments where plants were exposed to normal CO2 amounts and increasingly larger amounts of CO2. The plants absorbed the same amount of CO2 and put out the same amount of oxygen. So there's a limit to how much CO2 a plant will use.

the only way to increase the amount of CO2 used and amount of oxygen produced is to increase the number of plants.

Think of it like a sponge. Say 1 sponge can absorb 2 oz of water. No matter how much water you pour on the sponge it will only absorb 2 oz of water. If you want more water absorbed you have to have additional sponges.

in terms of the environment - if we want more CO2 absorbed we have to have more plants

[dorkulon]

29. The real cause...

[Harper_is_Bush]

31. THANKS TO NBC FOR CORRECTING THEIR ERROR!

http://www.nbc.com/Footer/Contact_Us/

[TZ]

32. Next on NBC..Michael Creighton

So when is NBC going to promote Mr.Creighton's (he who wrote Jurassic Park) last piece of fiction which our previous wonderful congress held up (literally one day)to say "see no global warming"?
Right wingers can't tell reality from fiction..too much TV perhaps.

[progressoid]

33. Some buffoon actually quoted Crichton's book in a letter to the editor of our local paper

These idiots actually think he's an expert.

Welcome to DU by the way.

[Firespirit]

34. Even the rightwing Chicago Tribune ran an article with people saying it was global warming

Link: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0701100137jan10,1,6054537.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed

In 1998, record high temperatures were driven by an unusually powerful El Nino current that disrupted weather patterns worldwide. The current El Nino, a periodic warming current that took shape last summer, is far weaker and has had only a moderate effect on global climate, several experts said.

"What we are seeing is much more than El Nino," said climate analyst Kevin Trenberth at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo. "The overall pattern is consistent with our concepts of global warming."

In other words, global warming has compounded the natural effects of El Nino. If we do have another 1997-98 type El Nino, I shudder to think how warm it will be. There may not be much of a winter anywhere if that happens....