Dutch version of our "60 Minutes" PNAC - VIDEO>>>> (not carlyle group)

[helderheid]

This is not about the Carlyle Group - different show. Damn, I love the Dutch documentaries!

http://www.tweevandaag.nl/call.php?module=PX_Video&func=get&vid=19381&vtype=rwb&startvideo=1

if that link doesn't work:

http://www.tweevandaag.nl/index.php?module=PX_Story&func=view&cid=210&sid=29882#

[JohnyCanuck]

1. Thanks for posting the link. Watching now. n/t

[helderheid]

17. Everyone seems to think this is the Carlyle group video. Perhaps I

shouldn't have said it was Dutch! :)

[Extend a Hand]

2. thx

bookmarking to watch later. The Carlyle one was good too.

[helderheid]

3. That was even a different television show - there are so many great

investigative journalism programs in the Netherlands!

[helderheid]

16. that one was excellent! This one is a little easier to watch since it's a

third the length.

[JohnyCanuck]

4. Video has commentary by Michael Meacher

and Andreas Von Bulow. Meacher was a former Labour Environment Minister and Von Bulow was Germany's Secretary of Defense.

This war on terrorism is bogus
The 9/11 attacks gave the US an ideal pretext to use force to secure its global domination

Michael Meacher
Saturday September 6, 2003
The Guardian

Massive attention has now been given - and rightly so - to the reasons why Britain went to war against Iraq. But far too little attention has focused on why the US went to war, and that throws light on British motives too. The conventional explanation is that after the Twin Towers were hit, retaliation against al-Qaida bases in Afghanistan was a natural first step in launching a global war against terrorism. Then, because Saddam Hussein was alleged by the US and UK governments to retain weapons of mass destruction, the war could be extended to Iraq as well. However this theory does not fit all the facts. The truth may be a great deal murkier.

We now know that a blueprint for the creation of a global Pax Americana was drawn up for Dick Cheney (now vice-president), Donald Rumsfeld (defence secretary), Paul Wolfowitz (Rumsfeld's deputy), Jeb Bush (George Bush's younger brother) and Lewis Libby (Cheney's chief of staff). The document, entitled Rebuilding America's Defences, was written in September 2000 by the neoconservative think tank, Project for the New American Century (PNAC).

The plan shows Bush's cabinet intended to take military control of the Gulf region whether or not Saddam Hussein was in power. It says "while the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein."

The PNAC blueprint supports an earlier document attributed to Wolfowitz and Libby which said the US must "discourage advanced industrial nations from challenging our leadership or even aspiring to a larger regional or global role". It refers to key allies such as the UK as "the most effective and efficient means of exercising American global leadership". It describes peacekeeping missions as "demanding American political leadership rather than that of the UN". It says "even should Saddam pass from the scene", US bases in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait will remain permanently... as "Iran may well prove as large a threat to US interests as Iraq has". It spotlights China for "regime change", saying "it is time to increase the presence of American forces in SE Asia".

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/comment/0,12956,1036687,00.html

[helderheid]

5. Thanks for this - I was impressed by both. The video is approx 20 min

[helderheid]

11. where in Canada are you? I dated a guy from Edmonton a gazillion years ago

[helderheid]

6. whoever rec'd, thanks!

[JohnyCanuck]

7. That was me and you're most welcome n/t

[helderheid]

8. :)

[helderheid]

9. kick fat self kick. It's 20 minutes guys - it's mostly in English and what

isn't is subtitled. Do it for your country. Do it for yourself. Do it for DU!

[helderheid]

10. I'm going to bed but I am BOGGLED why you guys won't look at this.

[upi402]

12. it's edifying

thanks!

[helderheid]

13. thank YOU ! And now I'm really going to bed ;)

[upi402]

14. G'nite!

:hi:

[helderheid]

15. g'mornin'!

[helderheid]

18. sounds like I'll need to wait a week and repost using a snazzier title!