WAR WITH IRAN IS IMMINENT

[kpete]

War with Iran is imminent

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Posted: January 8, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

In addition to moving additional military forces into the region, President Bush is putting into place a new political and military command team, all in preparation for an expanded war in the Middle East.

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Quietly, the Bush administration is changing the entire command structure in the Middle East. The U.S. top commander in Iraq, Gen. George Casey is being replaced by Gen. David Petraeus. During Operation Iraqi Freedom, Gen.Petraeus commanded the famed 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), leading the ''Screaming Eagles'' in combat. Following that, he commanded the Multi-National Security Transition Command in Iraq, assuming responsibility for training Iraqi forces. Petraeus is on record supporting a five-brigade expansion of U.S. forces in Iraq, in direct contrast to Gen. Casey, who expressed skepticism that increasing U.S. troop levels in Iraq would help stabilize the country. The political deck shuffling also reflects a Bush administration decision to expand the war in the Middle East.

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Maybe the best way to understand the Iraq Study Group (ISG) is that it was only Round One, George H. W. Bush's attempt to get his old team together to convince his son to abandon Iraq. The ISG included both James Baker III, Reagan's chief of staff who advised that Iran-Contra could well be illegal and might lead to impeachment, as well as Edwin Meese, who as Reagan's attorney general lead what amounted to a whitewash internal investigation of Iran-Contra. Baker typically represents the Council on Foreign Relations line on the Middle East – protect the oil, use military sparingly, and abandon Israel to Arab oil interests whenever possible. With this approach having been rejected by George W. Bush, the next alternative, Round Two, was for George H. W. Bush to bring in key hawks from the Iran-Contra days, to implement his son's expansion of the war.

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much more at:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53669

[NYCGirl]

1. It's World NUT Daily!

:eyes:

[The Doctor.]

33. Jerry Corsi was the asshat that wrote 'Unfit For Command', and even better;

He earned himself a place on the Top Ten a couple years back;

http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/05/183.html


More;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Corsi

Right-wing nut cases constantly quote WorldNutDaily for their 'information'. I wouldn't trust the site if it told us that the Sun would indeed rise tomorrow.

[UTUSN]

39. AND asshat Corsi pushes that U.S. will dissolve under Mexico-Canada-U.S. union

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http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=14965

North American Union to Replace USA?

by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted May 19, 2006

.... President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed.

The blueprint President Bush is following was laid out in a 2005 report entitled "Building a North American Community" published by the left-of-center Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The CFR report connects the dots between the Bush administration's actual policy on illegal immigration and the drive to create the North American Union: ....


http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15497

Bush Administration Quietly Plans NAFTA Super Highway

by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted Jun 12, 2006

.... A good reason Bush does not want to secure the border with Mexico may be that the administration is trying to create express lanes for Mexican trucks to bring containers with cheap Far East goods into the heart of the U.S., all without the involvement of any U.S. union workers on the docks or in the trucks.

Mr. Corsi is the author of several books, including "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry" (along with John O'Neill), "Black Gold Stranglehold: The Myth of Scarcity and the Politics of Oil" (along with Craig R. Smith), and "Atomic Iran: How the Terrorist Regime Bought the Bomb and American Politicians." He is a frequent guest on the G. Gordon Liddy radio show. He will soon co-author a new book with Jim Gilchrist on the Minuteman Project.

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15623

North American Union Would Trump U.S. Supreme Court

by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted Jun 19, 2006

The Bush Administration is pushing to create a North American Union out of the work on-going in the Department of Commerce under the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America in the NAFTA office headed by Geri Word. A key part of the plan is to expand the NAFTA tribunals into a North American Union court system that would have supremacy over all U.S. law, even over the U.S. Supreme Court, in any matter related to the trilateral political and economic integration of the United States, Canada and Mexico. ....

http://www.wnd.com/news/archives.asp?AUTHOR_ID=246

Coming soon to U.S.: Mexican customs office

Monday, June 05, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- Kansas City is planning to allow the Mexican government to open a Mexican customs office in conjunction with the Kansas City SmartPort. This will be the first foreign customs facility allowed to operate on U.S. soil.

Southern border blurs for global trade

Thursday, June 01, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- The Texas segment of the NAFTA Super Corridor is moving rapidly toward approval. When built, the Trans-Texas Corridor, or TTC, will be a major super-highway with six lanes mo ...

Bush border policy linked to Carlyle deal?

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- In January 2004, the Carlyle Group put together a new team to begin investing in Mexico. The team consisted of Luis T鬬ez, who was then an executive vice president of Desc, one of Mexico's larges ...

Immigration reform spells death for GOP

Friday, May 19, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- To measure what exactly the Senate is doing in putting together a "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" bill, we have to ask what is going to change after the bill is passed: No illegal immigrant currently in the United Stat ...

Border fence will never be built

Thursday, May 18, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- The Senate voted to approve the amendment submitted by Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., to build a 370-mile section of triple-layered fence along the Mexican border. Now the Bush administration is trying to push this as a victory for conservative ...


http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010

MMFA investigates: Who is Jerome Corsi, co-author of Swift Boat Vets attack book?

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• Corsi on Islam: "a worthless, dangerous Satanic religion"

• Corsi on Catholicism: "Boy buggering in both Islam and Catholicism is okay with the Pope as long as it isn't reported by the liberal press"

• Corsi on Muslims: "RAGHEADS are Boy-Bumpers as clearly as they are Women-Haters -- it all goes together"

• Corsi on "John F*ing Commie Kerry": "After he married TerRAHsa, didn't John Kerry begin practicing Judiasm? He also has paternal grandparents that were Jewish. What religion is John Kerry?"

• Corsi on Senator "FAT HOG" Clinton: "Anybody ask why HELLary couldn't keep BJ Bill satisfied? Not lesbo or anything, is she?" ....

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[NNN0LHI]

2. WorldNutdaily? I don't know? n/t

[babylonsister]

3. Corsi is a MAJOR r/w tool. I wouldn't put much faith in anything he says.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Corsi

[twilight_sailing]

4. Define IMMINENT

and state how much real money you will bet me.

Or are you just passing gas? If so, excuse yourself.

[Imagevision]

26. Define IMMINENT? -- tick- tock-tick -tock-tick- tock...

[Nederland]

40. Peace is at hand

Honest. Trust me. It's coming :)

[WilliamPitt]

5. Again?

[Annces]

6. Larry Johnson wrote about this too

""Clapper and McConnell are worrisome choices because they are known in the intelligence community as guys willing to give their customers what they want. Unlike Negroponte, who took a pretty tough analytical stance dismissing the imminence of an Iranian threat, Clapper and McConnell will be more than willing collaborators in making a case that Iran is a serious, immediate threat. If you want to cook the books then these guys can be master chefs.""


http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/01/taking_stock_of.html

[Junkdrawer]

7. PsyOps to get Iran to jump...or seem to jump...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3068688&mesg_id=3068688

[pwb]

8. peace with Iran may also be immanent..

[Dover]

9. Yep. Replaced Rumsfeld and several key positions with the '2nd Team'

Fresh horses. They've actually been doing this in many depts...rotating people in and out as needed.

And I doubt they'd do all this without some knowledge that Congress was going to back them up.

Never intended to leave Iraq without the goods and Iran in tow. So the question WE should be asking is just what we are going to do in response BEFORE it happens.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

10. Again?

Seems like they trot this one out every few months just to get people worried about something besides Iraq.

[NYCGirl]

13. And judging by the amount of people who get crazed by it here, it's working. NT

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

17. Meh.

Usual tin foil stuff.

[originalpckelly]

21. Tell that to Sy Hersch.

The neo-cons are completely insane, they think the only problem with Iraq was the implementation of the policy, not the actual policy.

[LeftCoast]

11. I've been hearing this for the last 6 years. Please define 'imminent'

:shrug:

edited to add: Not that I don't think Shrub doesn't want to, I just can't see it happening at this point.

[Joe for Clark]

12. With what army??

Certainly not ours.

You know if Iran really is or does become a genuine threat we can send them back into the stoneage in 45 minutes. You don't think they fully know that???

Joe

[Marie26]

14. I SORT OF DOUBT IT. nt

[Kelly Rupert]

15. Just like it has been ever since 9/11.

I think I'll pass on this round of hysteria.

[onenote]

16. shouted, hit and run post based on worldnetdaily

wow, does it get any less credible than that?

[tyedyeto]

18. The OP has a history of H&R posts.

[WilliamPitt]

20. I call bullshit

kpete is one of the most valuable posters we have here. The posts she puts up are almost always not only good, but truly important. If I had to bet, I'd say she would win any who-has-more-recommendations-for-their-threads contest hands down.

So, if you think my opinion has any weight, here it is: your comment above was unfair and deserves to be withdrawn.

[babylonsister]

22. Thanks, Will. That definitely needed to be said. And thanks, kpete,

for all you do! :hug:

[tyedyeto]

23. The OP made his/her statement at 2:57 (my time) this afternoon

and has not replied to any posts since he/she made the initial assertion. Is that not a hit and run post? I think my observation stands without comment.

[Egnever]

24. Your observation is wrong

Kpete posts news, often breaking important and insightful news non stop and has been doing so for a long time. I don't think he/she is interested in your reaction to news as much as it is in making sure you get to see it. I agree whole heartedly with will above something I don't do all that often.

I think you should take a step back and keep your eyes out for kpetes posts or look up his history and you will see you have jumped to the wrong conclusion here.

[WilliamPitt]

28. kpete makes many posts

and does not stick around to catch the replies. She might have a job or something. I do the same thing quite often; many people post here to offer information.

The "drive-by" characterization is almost always used in a derogatory fashion around here, and I don't think yours was an exception. Keep an eye out for kpete threads in the future. They are usually well worth reading, whether or not she takes part in them.

[kpete]

34. tyedyeto

I have always tried to post articles which interest me and let DUers sort them out. I rarely comment. If I have an agenda, it is to try to document the atrocities as best as I can. Not really hit and run, more like post and post and post and post etc.

Peace...kpete

[JitterbugPerfume]

31. thanks Will

I don't often respond , but kpete is one poster I rely on for the important information among the crap that is so often posted at DU

Thank you kpete

[Guaranteed]

35. This post is a low point, though. nt

[donheld]

43. The OP has a history alright

She has posted some of the best posts on DU for quite awhile now. You'd best be nice to her. :grr:

[ronnykmarshall]

19. and so is the Karl Rove indictment!!!

[Nederland]

41. LOL

In 24 business hours!

[Imagevision]

25. Something Big is going to break witin the next 14 days, it has to!

it's time for Bush to shit or get off the potski time!! the whole world is watching this dweeb. The Bush boy doesn't take no for any answer, however Bush is going to need to provide some results, start showing this war-president shit and it better be successful because this truly is bush's last chance.

Now if Rice has in fact done her job, she will have gotten thru to the Iranians and made the deal to allow Bush to exit peacefully so everybody sort of wins.

If not, the 0ne million+ Iraqi's who have already fled to Iran and Syria to escape will merely pose more problems for those countries because even more Iraqi's will be attempting to join their fellow countries out of life and death situations.

[michaz]

45. Is this how we are going to come out of Iraq?

By getting us involved in a mess with Iran he will have to pull the troops out of Iraq to use some of them for Iran.

[Jack Rabbit]

27. Oh, it's the World Nut Daily

You had me worried for a minute, Kpete. But it's the World Nut Daily and I can go back to sleep now.

[RedEarth]

29. I don't put much credence in WND... right wing garbage

[dogday]

30. Is anyone in the Senate or House

aware of what is happening? I mean the President does brief the leaders right?

[bdamomma]

36. even if they report to him do you really think he is listening

I think he will really have some choice words for us tomorrow night, and we can make up our minds to the next move we should all make, like get this man removed from office. He is backed in a corner, and will do anything the man just does not care.

[progressoid]

32. The New Improved News. Now With NUTS!

[hunter]

37. Hell, I was tired of this super power anyways.

Maybe it's time for the USA to ride the bus like everyone else.

[Cooley Hurd]

38. kpete, THANK YOU for posting this!

Sure, the source is questionable, BUT it's good to know what propaganda the loonies at WND are putting out. I'd rather know than NOT know.

As always, :yourock:

[robertpaulsen]

42. On the one hand, this is a WND masturbation fantasy.

We've seen this before within the cabal of "the crazies", Gingrich spoke of World War III happening just last year as though he was salivating at the prospect. It's pure lunacy.

But on the other hand, the lunatics still run the White House. These new Generals in the Middle East are who the author of this piece says they are, and he may be right about Bush, Cheney and Olmert feeling as though they are backed in a corner with recent events. It would not surprise me if these carriers being sent to the Middle East are for the express purpose of aggravating something like a New Gulf of Tonkin Incident, if you know what I mean.

As far as how "imminent" that is, I doubt that it will happen this week. But sometime before the crazies leave office, the possibility of such an incident certainly is high.

[Jacobin]

44. Bush basically announced it last night

The horrors that we have seen thus far are mere prelude to the conflagration that Iran will be.

Likud now controls our military through Bush and they will have their way.

I don't recommend popcorn. A careful review of how each of us will survive 150 oil and the economic meltdown that will occur, the draft and China and Russia aligning with Iran would be more helpful