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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 02:23 PM
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The Rahm Emanuel operation.
I just got back from the gym, and this was in my mailbox from a party activist. It rings true to me, as I know other candidates who were put in the exact same position. I was too late to hear the conversation.

Just putting it up here for discussion.

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John I got this from MYDD. It's about the DCCC.

David Lutrin is on Firedoglake right now talking about his experience
running for Congress in Florida's 16th district. Lutrin didn't get the
nomination, that went to now freshman Congressman Tim Mahoney. Here's
Howie Klein on what happened:

Early on in the process- in mid-2005- Dave contacted Democratic Party
organizations throughout the district, as well as the state party and
the DCCC in Washington. Everyone was enthusiastic and encouraging. Glen
Rushing, the DCCC point person for the region, told Dave he was "just
the type of candidate we're looking for." He offered to introduce him to
Alabama Congressman Artur Davis, the DCCC-appointed mentor for
Democratic candidates in the region, who following their first phone
conversation offered to help him with his race. Rushing then promised to
get him in touch with Florida DCCC chief, Congresswoman Debbie
Wasserman-Schultz, Emanuel's lieutenant for the Southeast.

Then something happened, something very dark and secretive,
something people are just uncovering now. DCCC Chairman Rahm Emanuel
found out something that could- and did- change the dynamics of the race
in FL-16 dramatically. Emanuel became aware that Mark Foley- well-known
for years Inside-The-Beltway, albeit not among his church-going
constituents, as a very active (and very hypocritical) homosexual- was
molesting the underage male congressional pages, and that he had been
for many years. Did Emanuel call the police? Did he even call the
staffers who are charged by Congress with looking out for the welfare of
the pages? Doesn't look that way. What it does look like is that he
called a fast-and-loose Republican businessman he knew, someone, like
Emanuel, with elastic values and an even more elastic code of personal
ethics. He offered him a congressional seat and all he'd have to do was
switch party registration and become a Democrat. That man is freshman
Congressman Tim Mahoney.

Suddenly there was a new DCCC point person, John Vogel, and he had
no idea who Dave was. Rushing called and suggested Dave talk to someone
named... Tim Mahoney. Dave did. And Mahoney offered him an intricate
bribe to drop out of the race and run against Republican Bill Young in
FL-10 instead. Dave Lutrin never had a single conversation with Rahm
Emanuel. But Emanuel's paw prints are all over this operation. It's the
way he worked in district after district, everywhere in the country,
seeking to find business-friendly, quasi-Republicans who would
soft-peddle their opposition to the war in Iraq and never mention
"impeachment." Many of us have experienced first hand Emanuel's tactics
in CA-11, FL-13, and IL-06 to name a few. Scared of career-ending
retribution, virtually no Democrats have been willing to go on the
record about DCCC practices that are at variance with internal party rules.

I would add that in NC-08 the DCCC backed anti-choice and pro-war
veteran Tim Dunn (disliked by the grassroots) over eventual nominee
Larry Kissell, who narrowly lost in the general to Robin Hayes. I know
that Emanuel is kicking himself for that one, since he didn't put
resources into that race (one of his assistants at the DCCC, Ali Wade,
is reported in the latest issue of GQ to have said on a targeting
conference call that 'NC-08 is for suckers').

Democrats have traditionally recruited millionaires, conservatives
and/or former Republicans to run for the House and Senate. There are a
variety of reasons for this, all dressed up as 'we are just trying to
win and we're willing to overlook ideology to do it'. Of course, the
idea that conservatives, millionaires, and former Republicans are the
best candidates is itself ideological and not particularly pragmatic.

Anyway, there is no evil conspiracy in which someone gives the order to
undermine liberals in these races. It's just sort of understood that
progressives can't win and so should be pushed out of viable districts.
As a result, it's much harder to raise money and get to the magic
'viability' threshold if you are a grassroots progressive - politicians
badmouth you to donors, unions and PACs, and your lifeblood is cut
before you know it. It's part of the culture, sort of like people with
mid-Atlantic accents who think that they have no accent.

Within the political class there's this set of illiberal values wired
into our cultural norms, a kind of Broderism and Gergenism and Iraq
Study Groupism. This culture is changing within at least the Democratic
Party itself, declining rapidly from 2002-2006. I felt a very different
environment in Congress a few days ago, a genuine sense of mutual
respect. Staffers are no longer reflexively snotty and members are no
longer all skeptical. It's even gone Presidential - John Edwards is
overtly calling himself a progressive, and the press isn't going with
stories about that crazy John Edwards and his uppity wife. I would
trace this shift within the party to the netroots - we have been able to
explain the general public mainstream anger to the our party elites, and
they are beginning to listen.

Anyway, head over to FDL and chat with Lutrin. He's spilling the beans


Lee

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 02:45 PM
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1. Assuming a denial from the Emanuel or the DLC, I'd like to see
(read) how it would be stated.

At the moment -

there are so many details and names that it would be difficult to not believe this story.

Is this would-be candidate truthful? Or is he a welcome whistle-blower?

How far I've come in knowledge and disappointment. I truly admired Emanuel.

Is there no honor in politics?
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 06:18 PM
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7. You would do well to
eschew ANYthing and anyONE who is the least bit associated with: Carville, Begala, the DLC, etc., etc. That includes the Clintons, Schumer, Biden, and innumerable others. Yeah, esp. Rahm. They are in it for themselves, first and foremost. They may once upon a time have been honorable with the best interests of the country at heart, but I'm convinced that's no longer the case.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 06:36 PM
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12. well, when it comes to Rahm
regaining control of the House, something the new Speaker gave him a lot of the credit for, is in the best interests of the country.

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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:21 PM
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16. People credit Rahm, people credit Dean...
.. but the person really and truly responsible for the big win in the house is George Bush.

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 10:45 AM
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24. Yes, the truth can be painful. All regularly scheduled Dem guests on right wing
Edited on Tue Jan-09-07 10:48 AM by higher class
networks are from the DLC group. All statements and comments coming from right wing networks referring to Democrats in an approving way are for Democrats in the DLC group (except when plain hate generating propaganda overrides as is the case with Clinton and Obama)). The only Dems who have been paid employees or guest experts have been from the DLC. All issue discussion that get mushed up and watered down come from the DLC.

There is so much confidence and bravado oozing out of these people, but it's all for very center and right of center positions. Why Why Why - look where right of center policies have landed us.

They conspire with and pass the word to each other and vote en masse. And then they are really good about dissing (fighting?) Dean and give no support to Kucinich.

The salvation of our country and the planets' countries are in jeopardy and we have to face DLC politics.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 02:54 PM
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2. Maybe this will gain enough traction to convince the faithful that their
idols are classists, at best, and thoroughly owned corporate shills at worst. Rahm was my rep and I saw just this kind of crap first-hand, of course it is just SOP in Illinois.
:kick: & R
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 05:59 AM
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18. The more I learn about him, the less I like him.
He is a loyal proponent of what is wrong with this party, this country, and this world.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 01:28 AM
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30. Too true
and did you notice how the main point is avoided by hurling minutiae?
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 06:07 PM
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3. No one worked harder to prevent antiwar candidates from winning
than Rahm.

Except maybe Karl Rove.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 06:11 PM
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4. He did the same for Hackett (OH) and Cegelis (IL-Duckworth's district). Rahm
doesn't want to let the Dem voters choose because he knows what is best for us.

:sarcasm:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 06:15 PM
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6. Reality Check, Hackett was NOT a liberal or progressive.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 06:21 PM
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8. Cegelis was
Edited on Mon Jan-08-07 06:22 PM by LSK
And its well documented in the IL section. Go back to a year ago and you will numerous flamewars over this.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 06:33 PM
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10. Not to mention Hackett was contemplating running for the Senate, not the House
And Sherrod Brown (who won btw) was far more liberal than Hacket.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 08:03 PM
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17. It wasn't that Hackett was less liberal, it was that he wasn't a corporatist...
That's the keyword when evaluating who the likes of Carville and Emmanuel's agenda. Hackett may have been more conservative, but he also wasn't about to be a tool of the corporations. They may try to make a big deal to the tabloids that Carville and his wife Mary Matalin are on the opposite sides of the "liberal/conservative" spectrum, but they really are from the same corporatist cloth. And the latter is what really counts.

If you want to get the poop on what went on behind the scenes with Emmanuel and Carville and how they really more believe in power of the elite than power of the people, check out this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3027550
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:10 AM
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34. Then why did Emmanuel donate the maximum contribution to Hackett?
http://www.fecinfo.com/cgi-win/x_polpactocand.exe?DoFn=H6OH0209406

Perhaps reality does not jive with your perception of Rahm Emmanuel.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 06:45 PM
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14. reality check-it should have been left to the Ohio voters! not political hacks.
Edited on Mon Jan-08-07 07:06 PM by mod mom
also they wanted candidates they DLC could control.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 06:41 PM
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13. yes indeed
Rahm wants "centrists" aka: corporatist/AIPAC/capitalst/warmongers. Better to make them all RICH cuz it isn't about us with Rahm.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:43 AM
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20. Lies! Hackett recieved plenty of support from the DCCC
In fact, Emmanuel even gave the maximum contribution from his personal leadership PAC:

http://www.fecinfo.com/cgi-win/x_polpactocand.exe?DoFn=H6OH0209406
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 03:16 PM
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28. LOL. Anti-DLCers can't get their BS straight
Hackett was closer to the DLC in philosophy than Sherrod Brown who is quite liberal.

People liked him as one of the Fightin Dems.

Duckworth is quite liberal though not as staunchly anti-war as Cegelis was.

Duckworth was part of the Fightin Dems.

" let the Dem voters choose because he knows what is best for us"

Uh Cegelis lost in the primary. Ya know where Democratic party members select their general election nominations by a process called voting.


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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 06:13 PM
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5. Carol Shea-Porter NH 1 was cut off by the DCCC
after she beat their guy in the primary. She then went on to win the general election despite no support from the DCCC. Her problem: she's a grass roots antiwar progressive, i.e. a Democrat and just plain folk. I think all told that there were lots of similar stories.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 06:28 PM
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9. So he lost the nomination to another Dem, who got (GASP) elected!
Taking back the house isnt enough I guess, lol.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 06:33 PM
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11. you should send this to Drudge
I'm sure he'd run with it....
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:13 PM
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15. here's a link
http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/06/blue-america-from-the-swamps-of-florida-politics-please-welcome-a-true-believer-david-lutrin/#more-6469


Don't long-term House Democrats desire leadership roles? Emmanuel has been a US Representative since 2003, yet, he's already the House Democrats' Caucus Chair, as well as, his role at the DCCC screening of/controlling $$ flow to our candidates. Seems a lot of 'power' and 'influence' for someone who is relatively new on the Hill.



````
(possible internet research: 'Rahm Emanuel and Marc Rich';
and, maybe 'Rahm Emmanuel and Wasserstein Perella')


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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 07:06 AM
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19. This is how the 'boys' control both sides of the isle
no matter who wins, their agenda gets top billing.


Things need to change. These assholes need to be outed for what they are.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:48 AM
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21. Yep.
I would rather support a Democrat who started out as a Democrat than a repub-turncoat anyday.
But the repub-turncoat is already ethically challenged...so Emmanuel's job was half-finished.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:49 AM
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22. This Is Why I Will Not Vote in Primaries or Invest Myself In a Party Candidate
There are others involved who work to insure it's all a dog & pony show. And their vote counts much more than mine.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:06 AM
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23. Whew! There's a lot on that plate!
But, aside from the completely unsubstantiated charges made in this piece, there is a point I'd like to highlight....

All of this talk of DCCC support or lack of determining the fate of any campaign, it just seems so dependent. If I were going to run for Congress I would work that District like nobody's business. I would paln on absolutely no help from the DCCC and would raise money, recruit volunteers and campaign for voters at every turn.

Then there is the perspective of the local parties. Stay inactive and continue with a sense of entitlement and see what you get. You get whatever candidate the "higher powers" choose for you. Your choices in the matter are 1.) Take it or 2.) Leave it. The stronger and more independent our local parties and other Dem organizations are the better. It takes the kind of effort we are willing to make in presidential election years to be done all the time, not for 6 months every four years.

Long-term, strategically targeted grunt-work is the key to us seizing control of this, the supposed party of the people.

Julie
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 12:25 PM
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25. Add Minnesota District 6 to your list!
I became "enlightened" due to my personal involvement in this race.
The "grassroots" candidate, Scott Mortensen was a well liked, anti-corporate, anti IRAQ War, populist candidate who had been wearing out the shoe leather running for an open seat in Minnesota District 6. He had reached the point where he was earning name recognition through hard work, activism, and building grass roots support. The DCCC came to town with deep pockets and insider Democratic Party Machine support and told him to get out or get buried. The DCCC (Rham Emmanual)installed their insider favorite in the Primary race.


I was naive. I believed that The People could affect the Democratic Party by working at the grass roots PRIMARY level and sending OUR Representatives to Washington.

The DCCC has NO BUSINESS interfering in Primary races!!!!

For details:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=160&topic_id=14207

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=160&topic_id=16885



The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 01:15 PM
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26. And the DSCC pulled the same crap in the Minnesota Senate race
Amy Klobuchar was their anointed candidate and they strong armed Patty Wetterling out of the race (though in retrospect, that may have been a good thing given the results of her house race.) and marginalized Ford Bell when he refused to let them bully him. While I feel better about Klobuchar than I did a year ago, I don't appreciate the interference from the national party and I still think Bell's positions were better, especially on health care and the war.

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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 03:09 PM
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27. This post is rather dubious as it contains easily debunked assertions
DCCC Chairman Rahm Emanuel
found out something that could- and did- change the dynamics of the race
in FL-16 dramatically. Emanuel became aware that Mark Foley- well-known
for years Inside-The-Beltway, albeit not among his church-going
constituents, as a very active (and very hypocritical) homosexual- was
molesting the underage male congressional pages, and that he had been
for many years.


Anyone who even casually followed that story knows that no one had accused Foley of actually molesting underaged males.

If the author is willing to fudge such a well-known fact, why should we believe anything else that he says?
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Lurking Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 04:05 PM
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29. I wonder what y'all would be posting if we'd lost?
The DLC and the DCCC are not your enemy.

The criminal in the Whitehouse is your enemy and Rahm, and Howard, and many, many others all did their part to thwart that evil fuck.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 01:31 AM
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31. I like Rahm Emanuel.
I don't have to agree with him on every issue to think he's a dedicated, hard-working Democrat.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 03:17 AM
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32. Thank you, AtomicKitten.
I like him, too. I like his ruthlessness as well as his dedication. Given the shit they have thrown at us, we need Rahm. I will take ten of him.

Perhaps we should ask the people in his district why they elected him. What does he do for them?

My daughter is in his district. She is an active Democrat, too. I have to tell you that she had only lived in her apartment for three weeks when her Democratic precinct captain found her and asked if she was a registered voter. They are very well-organized there.

I am going to ask her and her roommates what they think. After all, they are the ones who send him to Congress.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 07:26 AM
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33. poorly written fiction
tripe
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