Photo of Young with T-shirt on in the congress

[Beaverhausen]

from this link:

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/02/02/Worldandnation/Tempest_in_a_T_shirt_.shtml

[uppityperson]

1. Thanks. Set up job. nt

[oldtime dfl_er]

2. no handcuffs there

I agree - setup.

[NorCalDem]

3. For some reason I get the impression

that they kicked Mrs. Young out just so that kicking Cindy Sheehan out didn't seem so partisan. Just a hunch, but after they kicked Sheehan out it's not that much of a stretch of the imagination to think that the SS would go, "shit, we just fucked up, quick, find a republican to kick out so we don't look like idiots."

Just IMHO. Thanks

[Beaverhausen]

4. Well, who knows? I posted the pic cause some people doubted she...

...even had the t-shirt on or that the incident happened at all.

[kath]

11. do we know for sure that this picture was taken the night of the SOTU

address, or could it have been taken some other time she was in the Senate (or House?) gallery?

Just a little suspicious that it took two days for this photo to show up.

[Dr Fate]

12. Nah- that angle is dead. She was wearing the shirt!

That does not mean there are still unanswered questions as to how this went down.

[AndyA]

17. Thanks for the link to the pic

Thanks, Beaverhausen! I was one of the people who doubted she had the t-shirt on at the SOTU speech.

[Beaverhausen]

35. DUer Soup found it - she deserves the credit

I just reposted.

[shanti]

25. thank you

i was waiting for that pic.

[Dr Fate]

OR- guards were told to "find the lady with the shirt"

And this was an accident.

[FreedomAngel82]

13. Could be

I was at Alex Jones' site last night and someone who writes for his site made that suggesetion.

Link: http://infowars.com/articles/media/sheehan_mainstream_media_spin_machine.htm

Snip: <For a start, both women should have been left alone according to the law. As Brad Blog points out, a 1971 Supreme Court decision ruled that wearing a "F**k the Draft" T-shirt into a courthouse was Constitutionally protected free speech. Secondly, Young wasn't arrested, she was merely asked to leave. Sheehan was forcibly dragged out of the building and handcuffed and held in detention for hours. Young was asked politely to leave, the Waffen SS wannabe that arrested Sheehan barked the word "Protester" before he dived in. Young argued loudly with officers and called them "idiots" while Sheehan calmly pleaded for them to let her leave quietly.

It is clear that both T-shirts were making political statements, but only the anti-government shirt was deemed to be an arrestable offence.

Furthermore, would Young have been asked to leave if the Sheehan incident hadn't already occurred and Bush's security goons weren't wary of saving face? >

[brainshrub]

5. Was she kicked out before or after Sheehan?

I'm curious.

[sabra]

7. after

I read a quote, from Young saying that the officer told her that they did the same thing to Sheehan...

[FreedomAngel82]

16. They did not do the same thing!

Cindy went to jail and was pushed around and abused while this woman was rude and disrespectful and didn't get arrested at all!

[Beaverhausen]

8. If you read the article is says after

Cindy was kicked out before the speech began, and Young was kicked out 15 minutes into it.

[Atman]

20. If young was booted 15 min into the speech, SETUP

PERIOD.

No question. The Sheehan episode was all over the news by then. What the hell was happening in the senate chamber, armed guards walking up and down the aisles during the president's address looking for t-shirts?

The stink isn't going away.

[FreedomAngel82]

23. Good observation

[Lars39]

34. She also claims she argued/refused to leave the gallery.

So 15 minutes into it she's creating a ruckus in the gallery? Her stories aren't holding up.

[LittleClarkie]

41. If you read an earlier story about the woman, she's like that. Big mouth.

She created the ruckus that Sheehan was reported to have caused, but didn't.

Mrs. Young is quite mouthy when she's pissed. And she also wrote an angry letter to the prez about not limiting donations that can be given to them.

Maybe it was the angry letter that got her kicked out. Maybe she really was protesting, or at least reminding, that people need to REALLY support the troops.

Maybe Bunnypants is just afraid of angry women with tshirts.

Save me Uncle Dick! Save me!

[Lars39]

42. Nah, his handlers are afraid he'd look up in the gallery and read

out loud the shirts instead of what's on the teleprompters. :evilgrin:

[Atman]

45. Seriously, though...

How did this happen DURING a SOTU, and no one noticed? Dead silence (unless she was hauled out during one of the GOP's many standing ov's) and no one picked up on a "scuffle" going on with a republican rep's wife? Puh-leeze. Strains credulity to the ultimate breaking point.

This story is total bullshit. I'm simply not buying any of it.

[Lars39]

49. When I first heard it, it reminded me of the repubs that had

engine problems right after Wellstones' plane crash. "See, this stuff happens to us, too!"

[Wordie]

47. ROFL! nt

[SillyGoose]

6. Ok, my head just exploded with this quote ....

:grr:

Beverly Young said she did not consider a support-the-troops shirt to be a political statement and that it was different from Sheehan's messages.

She said of Sheehan: "I disapprove of everything she stands for."

[FreedomAngel82]

18. What a bitch!

Instead of standing up for Cindy's rights she's all about herself! This was a stunt pure and simple!

[SillyGoose]

22. An incredibly disgusting comment to make about Cindy.

This pisses me off big time.

[shanti]

28. yes, that got to me too!

i take back all the nice things i said about ms. young! :grr: she's NOT a nice person, binka saw it like it was!

[Dr Fate]

9. With this rule, I'm wondering why she was let in the 1st place...

...did she have a jacket on over it at first?

My guess is that she removed herself AFTER the Sheehan disruption-

Assuming she did not leave on her own accord (no guards escorting her in photo)-we know they would not have said a word to her if Sheehan had not been there.


I'll eat crow as far as the shirt being worn goes- but I still think we dont have the entire story here.

She admits to cursing the guards- so why no arrest?

Was she told to leve before or after Sheehan?

Was she let in with the shirt- and if it is against the rules- why?

Were the guards told to "look for a lady with a texted shirt" and they nabbed her by accident? Or did they do it on purpose to "look fair."

[FreedomAngel82]

19. How do we know the police said anything to her?

There's pictures of Sheehan being pushed out of the House while nothing with this woman. How do we know the police said anything to her at all? Did the police make a statement about her or just Cindy Sheehan?

[Dr Fate]

27. We dont. This is a picture of her standing in the chamber-thats it.

We now have proof she wore the shirt during the adress and was photographed doing so- that is it so far.

To my knowledge we still have not confirmed the rest of the story...

[gkhouston]

10. Odd. I could've sworn the shirt Young held up in Congress

yesterday was short-sleeved...

[FreedomAngel82]

21. It was

And was very wrinkled. Maybe they have two. One for winter and one for warmer weather. :shrug: I wonder why he took that one though.

[Beaverhausen]

32. Once he held it all the way up the long sleeves unfurled

yeah, its the same shirt.

I'm not defending this woman or anything. I'm just reporting cause I was interested too.

I had hopes that she would join Cindy in her lawsuit. Guess that won't happen.

[FreedomAngel82]

37. I saw a picture on a BBC site

It looked like a tshirt there.

[Beaverhausen]

40. click on the link in the OP - he is holding up a long sleeved t-shirt

[Jara sang]

14. So, while that photo was taken was she topless in the U.S. Capitol?

She should have been arrested for lewd conduct.

[FreedomAngel82]

15. Something I'm wondering

Were Mrs. Young and Cindy in the same place in the room or were their seats in different places? When I see the pictures of Cindy it looks like she's on the floor and this woman is at the top. I thought she said she was six rows away from Laura Bush? Where did Bush sit? Does she sit that high up?

[Dr Fate]

31. This is supposed to be a pic. of her leaving.

That was my guess- that she is not near her orig. seat at this point.

[havocmom]

36. Mrs bush does sit high in the gallery

along with other guests

[FreedomAngel82]

38. I wasn't sure if she sat up there or below

[havocmom]

43. I believe the floor is reserved for those who actually hold office,

Senators, Congressmen, Supreme Court Justices and Cabinet Members, and those who serve those people: Sergeants at Arms and of course, the Secret Service. With all those people, the floor is pretty crowded for these joint session affairs.

The Gallery is reserved for guests, and is the big balcony area.

[rpgamerd00d]

24. Time Lapse : 1 Hr, 15 minutes. Photo shows ill-fitting sweatshirt.

Clearly a setup.

However, because Repukes are morons, this "setup" helps Cindy Sheehan's Lawsuit, given that Young wasn't arrested.

Just goes to prove that Republicans, while assholes, are still stupid.

:rofl:

[mdmc]

26. bullshit! your sig line is great!

[FreedomAngel82]

30. LOL so true

[WinkyDink]

29. Thank you! I was a big doubter. NOW? I think she planned to be

the Anti-Cindy.

[malaise]

51. So was I

Thanks for the pix.

[dogday]

33. I am seeing such a slant toward the Republican's wife

They make her out to be Mother Teresa while Sheehan is an Anti-War Protester. If she really wanted to help the troops, she would help Cindy help us to bring them home. I say this as a Mom of a soldier who is over there right now...

I am seeing and hearing and reading all slanted Media reports with a bias against the Anti-War protester and still not saying how Cindy got the shit end of the stick.....

[gatorboy]

39. Are those the same?

The one she's wearing is a long sleeve and what her husband is holding just looks like a regular tee....

[Wordie]

44. Here's apparent original source of the photo, Roll Call, w/article excerpt

ROLL CALL

Young Wins Apology, Police Promise Review
By John McArdle
Roll Call Staff
February 2, 2006

Capitol Police Chief Terrance Gainer personally apologized to Rep. Bill Young (R-Fla.) and his wife Wednesday evening after a Capitol Police officer removed Beverly Young from her gallery seat at the State of the Union address on Tuesday for wearing a shirt with the words “Support the Troops” emblazoned on it.

There's more to the article, but Roll Call requires a subscription. I wonder if there are more photos.
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/51_77/news/12009-1.html

And Roll Call appears to be the original source of the photo; it's on their front page:
http://www.rollcall.com/

[soulcore]

46. Link to image is dead. n/t

[Wordie]

48. Try this...

http://www.rollcall.com/

[LittleClarkie]

50. Read this!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x307035