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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 10:39 PM
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Democrats: Nuclear Iran unacceptable
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1167467674368&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Iran with nuclear weapons is unacceptable, new House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer told The Jerusalem Post hours after entering the party leadership position.

The Maryland Democrat said the view is shared by his party, rejecting assertions that the Democrats would be weaker than the Republicans on Iran.

He also said that the use of force against Teheran remained an option.

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 10:42 PM
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1. From another thread:


We done been played. Like harps.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 10:50 PM
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4. Oh, come on now...
Edited on Sat Jan-06-07 10:53 PM by roamer65
Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.:sarcasm:

Get with the program, Winston. ;)
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 10:47 PM
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2. And cindy interrupted this nice man to protest a war?
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 10:49 PM
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3. What about "Nukes for Mangoes"?
Edited on Sat Jan-06-07 10:50 PM by Nutmegger
Iran, India, Pakistan, China, Russia, the US... Nuclear non-proliferation seems to be heading in the opposite direction.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 10:51 PM
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5. "Inalienable right"
Under the NPT, Iran has the "inalienable right" to nuclear energy.

But hey, let's just keep on terrorizing and threatening Iran to make them pull out of the NPT and go full steam ahead for nukes. "Total war", the New American Dream.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 10:54 PM
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6. So is a nuclear Israel then. They are obviously not rational enough to be trusted with them.
Any country threatening to use nukes against a non-nuclear armed country is a dangerous rogue state.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:33 AM
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7. You can see the Democrats rising and wildly applauding when
Bush delivers the SOTU with a passage about saving us from the threat of Iran...

I will puke right then and there....
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:34 AM
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8. Me too.
I just don't know how to stop the madness.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:39 AM
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9. Hey, and what about a Nuclear Israel? Oh that's right.
Israel doesn't have the nuclear bomb, right? Or it's just the minor Tactical one or something?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:39 AM
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11. or Pakistan........oh wait.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:39 AM
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10. One word
AIPAC

It has almost every single Democrat by the short and curlies.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:44 AM
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12. AIPAC and it's ugly connections ought to be reported on...
but the reporters are AIPAC and JINSA members themselves for the most part....
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warpheads Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 12:45 AM
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13. Demos Sell Out...
In short; along with the decision not to investigate Bush/Cheney, reverse the attack on the Bill of Rights by the Patriot Act and other 'Homeland defense' legislation; the demos are siding with little Adolph on Iran too? To the streets, to the streets.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:04 AM
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14. Demos? ... Welcome to DU. Enjoy the stay. ....n/t
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warpheads Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:28 AM
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15. Re: Demos and War and Bush...
Look, guys...granted, I'm a Peace and Freedom member from California and much more compfortable with the Idea of jumping into the street than voting and saying "Yea!!! We Won!! We're the good guys!!" and then go home and watch prime-time t.v. but HELL!! Don't you people screen potential candidates? Ah; why'd I ask that? After you read this; come back to earth and realize that you can't trust any of the power elite and power belongs in the hands of the people and start writing letters, phone calls ect again; because the fight for the future hasn't really even started yet...and here's your new democrat from Kansas...

Memo to Nancy Boyda: You Were Elected As a Democrat
by Bob Geiger | Jan 6 2007 - 2:07pm | permalink

It's fortunate that, in the tidal wave of change and good news we got with the start of the new, Democratic-controlled Congress on Thursday, it was largely missed that one new Democratic Congresswoman went on television and looked like an idiot, who doesn’t understand why she was elected and, from the looks of that interview, might as well have an (R) next to her name.

Appearing with Charlie Gibson on ABC News Thursday, newly-elected Congresswoman Nancy Boyda, who defeated five-term Republican Jim Ryun 51% to 47% in Kansas's 2nd Congressional District in November, said she would vote for funding for any troop surge George W. Bush initiates, saying of Bush "He is the Commander-in-Chief…"

Here's the full exchange:

Gibson: Would you vote in favor of money to support another 20 to 40 thousand troops in Iraq?

Boyda: I think we're going to vote to support what the commander in chief and head of military asks to do. At least, I am certainly going to vote to support it.

Gibson: If he wants the surge, he'll get it.

Boyda: Yes.

Gibson: If he wants the surge, he'll get it.

Boyda: He is the commander in chief, Charlie. We don't get that choice. Congress doesn't make that decision.

Gibson: But the polls would indicate, and indeed, so many voters when they came out of the ballot box, said, "We're voting because we want something done about the war and we want the troops home."

Boyda: They should have thought about that before they voted for President Bush not once, but twice.

To quote my friend, John Amato at Crooks and Liars, "Is she kidding me? Earth to Bodya, we just had another election and the American people realized they made a mistake and voted YOU in to make a change. You're supposed to be part of the solution now, not another Rubber Stamper."

While technically accurate in some ways -- it is indeed up to Bush to be "the decider" on sending more troops -- Boyda answered that question in a way that indicates she was in a coma for the election season and has no clue about why she was elected -- and the very fact she was even elected in such a conservative area was because of the across-the-board opposition to this war from the American people.
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