Sale: Negroponte Bounced for Crossing Cheney on Surveillance

[Cheney Killed Bambi]

Is Richard Sale reliable? Does anyone have a bead on whether he's a good reporter, or another Jason Leopold? Anyway, he has what would appear to be bombshell:

"Contrary to the bland stories in The New York Times and Washington Post of Friday, Negroponte did not go voluntarily to State from his job as director of intelligence. In fact, there was tremendous administration pressure to get him out of his current job. The chief cause of the quarrel involved Negroponte's balking at at request from Vice President Cheney to increase domestic collection by the National Security Agency on U.S. citizens.

Negroponte flatly refused, Cheney bridled, and from then on the pressure built to get rid of him. (The White House did not return phone calls, but there is nothing new is that.)

http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2007/01/sale_on_negropo.html

If you have any thoughts on Richard Sale, good or bad, please post them on comments. I'm trying to get a bead on whether this is believable or not.

[MadMaddie]

1. This would not surprise me....Cheney has always been one

for unchecked powers for the President and that includes spying on American people....Cheney is channelling McCarthy...and it is up to the Dems and the American people to stop him...

And it is telling that Negroponte a criminal in his own right stood toe toe to toe with Cheney and told him no.....this is chilling...

[saigon68]

17. And I thought 5 deferments Cheney LOVED "Nun Rapist" Negroponte

Guess I was wrong

[NNN0LHI]

2. The real story is Rice is leaving real soon and needed a replacement n/t

[Suich]

4. That makes me very happy because I think she's an awful

SOS. Where did you hear it?

:hi:

[stevietheman]

9. The scuttlebutt is Kindasleazy is maybe moving to the V.P. slot n/t

n/t

[pansypoo53219]

14. so

when is cheeney Dying? cause he ain't leaving his cushy spot unless cold or 09' comes.

[NNN0LHI]

11. I didn't hear it

I just know that she can't go to Congress now with the Dems in control and allow herself to be questioned while under oath.

Too many skeletons.

Don

[rusty charly]

3. there's this

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:HeM8JRsqzvQJ:billmon.org/archives/002298.html+Richard+Sale&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=6

[DemReadingDU]

5. Earlier thread, check here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3059532

[roamer65]

6. It must have been blatant by Darth Cheney...

for that old criminal Negroponte not to be able to "stomach" it. Yikes.

[illinoisprogressive]

7. another rumor floating is he is to replace Rice who is replacing

an ailing Cheney. Oh, the rumors!

[Bobbieo]

8. Rice to replace an ailing Cheney

That one, I believe. Damn- she just might end up to be the first woman president.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

10. I found pics of Snakes eating Rats and Rats eating Fantail chicks, but no pics of Rats eating Rats

:(


Snake eating rat


Rat eating Fantail chicks


People eating rats

(How to eat Rat)



Rat eating watermellon


I need a pic of Rats eating their own!! :bounce:

[teryang]

12. I don't believe this story, period

Cheney doesn't make appointments. Wholesale eavesdropping is already under way. Negroponte was moved because there is more dirty work to be done in the future and his position as DNI didn't do the trick. He may be leaking to the old guard. It's obvious that a power struggle is under way but outcomes are hardly predictable at this point. I'm looking for more war as a last desperation play. I think the markets are pointing to this. The small hands are being relieved of their hard assets. Pro-war positions are coming unwound. This should occur before the real thing because the big hands always win.

The alterative would be a hard money, hard crash. I'd want to go to GS too, to find out what's really going on.

By the way, I don't believe Sale's story about Fitzgerald either.

[KoKo]

16. Terryang, Could you share or point to

on his blog what he said about Fitzgerald? (assume you mean Patrick Fitzgerald?)

I'm not sure I believe Sale either. Just doesn't ring true about Negroponte. Although Sale comments to another commenter on his blog that Negropointe couldn't be fired "because he didn't want to go" and knows to much." That also was an odd comment.

Why would Sale put out "disinformation," though.

[teryang]

18. Fitzgerald is a player, not a white knight

I went through a series of links on the other thread and came up with a Fitzgerald story by Sale.

He paints Fitzgerald as a potential savior. I have remarked some time ago, that persons such as Fitzerald are pawns playing for behind the scenes stakeholders, kept on hand to pull the trigger on the hired help, whenever the need arises. This doesn't change the fact that Fitzgerald in the past covered up the tracks of terrorist provocateurs initially involved in political assassination and then later left free, by Fitzgerald, to participate in the first WTC bombing. This guy is totally connected.

The fog of disinformation is always helpful in uncertain times to cover tracks and leave options open yet undiscovered.

[KoKo]

20. Thanks...

"The fog of disinformation is always helpful in uncertain times to cover tracks and leave options open yet undiscovered."

[peacetalksforall]

13. I have so little respect for Negroponte that I can't believe he can

draw a line somewhere.

[pscot]

15. This doesn't seem credible to me

He and Elliot Abrams oversaw the Contras in Nicaragua and the death squads in El Salvador. He was implicated in the attempt to overthrow Chaves in Venezuela a couple of years back and now he suddenly discovers principles that balk at eavesdropping on Americans? For the last 25 years he's been the willing tool of whatever nefarious scheme his republican masters have cooked up. Why should we believe he's suddenly developed a conscience? I would have thought Biggus Dickus was just his kind of guy.

[Gabi Hayes]

19. Larry Johnson isn't buying Sale's story...pretty interesting, wide-ranging info here, which

goes FAR afield; all the way back to the father of one of The Police, and our involvement in supporting Nasser against the Brits and Frogs, to CIA support of the Faisal coup in Iraq

http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/01/why_did_negropo.html

the above link is an offshoot of Johnson's main page, which is currently running Sale's article at the top.


http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/


Johnson on Sale:

''I don't think Richard's account makes sense. Why does the Bush Administration appoint a guy who is grousing about their policies to a high profile position where he will have
credibility to grouse about their policy, particularly on domestic spying? I can
believe that Negroponte may have been an obstacle on Iran or domestic spying. Let's
assume it is both. Then why keep him on board and name him to a post that requires
Senate confirmation? Bush has a history with malcontents. He gets rid of them.

Just ask Paul O'Neil, Thomas White, Richard Clarke, Eric Shinseki, The Fat Guy who was the Economic Advisor, and Colin Powell, etc. I'm having trouble with the concept that Negroponte, who has been the consummate team player, is now not the team player, that he is under pressure from Cheney but, as others claim, he's going to State to shore up the surge policy. And this from a guy who does not need the work. A guy who is sacrificing time from family (despite hanging out at the University Club) and has no pension at stake, his retirement secure, he wants to stay in Government and take shit from that fat head Cheney? I don't get it.''