Drudge: Paper says Israel is preparing to nuke Iran!!!

[bluewave]

We need to stop this. No nukes against civilians.

The paper is apparently the Sunday Times of London. Tactical nukes against "nuclear facilities."

[Richard Steele]

1. Well, if Drudge says it, then you know it's true!

:sarcasm:

[Sam Odom]

13. Drudge is NOT saying it

He is just 'reporting' an early leak of a UK news paper, the paper is saying it.

[originalpckelly]

16. The Sunday Times will be out soon, so we shall see.

They (the neo-cons in America/Likudniks in Israel) may want Iran to attack us, or they may be gambling and bluffing to get Iran to the bargaining table.

One way or another, we know they want this out there because Murdoch owns the paper. It wouldn't be there if reichwingers worldwide didn't want it there.

[WiseButAngrySara]

24. Yes, you defender of the unconstitutional POTUS, and now Drudge?

Why am I not surprised?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3059071

theoldman
Response to Original message
I don't think I agree with this.
Once a war has started the president has a lot of leeway in what he/she does. Congress can cut the money but not much else.

Sam Odom (580 posts)
Response to Reply #2
4. Me either
This would 'just' be troop movement orders by the Commander in Chief. Well within his rights, IMHO

[bluerum]

2. We need to stop Drudge's sludge. He is hack "journalist". nt

[originalpckelly]

10. It's similar to what Sy Hersch has been reporting...

these people are convinced Iran has a nuclear program, just like they were with Iraq's WMD.

They cannot obviously get the US to do this anymore, the Democrats have taken control of the US Congress, so this would be challenged. They think they're going to have to get Israel to do it now. This is possibly the worst thing to happen. These people are as nutty as Ahmadinejad, only these people have nukes.

The Likud party's head, Benjamin Netanyahu, was on Glenn Beck and I watched it, OMG! This guy is fucking insane.

Don't be surprised either because Kadima is having to compete with Likud, because the people of Israel have been made afraid by the rocket attacks and war in Lebanon, they usually flee to the right when violence picks up. That's why Kadima is going to probably move to the right, and it may be why Ehud Olmert considers this an option.

[bluerum]

18. Ok. So they are both reporting here say and rumor. Like Israel would

inform them prior to any nuclear operation.

The post subject should be modified to read that Israel is planning an operation on Iran's nuclear facilities.

They pulled a stunt like this against, was it Egypt or Syria about 20 years ago?

[originalpckelly]

27. Hey you were wrong!

:rofl:

HAHA!

I wish you were right. :cry:

[dos pelos]

22. after the attack,once the dust settles,then what happens......

The Democrats,to whom the people turn in response to the Bush policy of war escalation and repression at home,are busy high fiving and backslapping each other.Meanwhile,Bush has orchestrated a steamroller of events bearing down at full speed on these quisling twits who think their vacillating statements of weak equivocating protest will change anything.THE WAR IS ABOUT TO ESCALATE HUGELY.Well beyond any "surge".
Democrats in their tentative milquetoast manuvering are going to get run over by a mack truck,driven by Bush ,his neocon advisers and his hard right overseas allies.Again,if these timid democrats won't quite line up,as Bush wants,he will very shortly drive a truck into them to realign them.I think we are about to be seriously outmanuvered and powerfully run over by events.Events orchestrated by this administration.Heads up people.

[TheFarseer]

3. yeah, that sounds likely

Israel would be more of a pariah that North Korea.

oh, that was :sarcasm: - the first part, not the second part.

[originalpckelly]

4. I don't know, I have a feeling Mossad was feeding our guys bad intel...

I remember seeing the former head of the Mossad on the Daily Show, and he literally believed Iraq still had WMDs. These far right Likudniks are fucking insane, I worry about the sane left/center Israelis who have to live with those horrible Likud idiots.

He usually misunderstands things, I remember when he reported the NYT story, which said Bush/delusional Republicans who thought WMD was still in Iraq had released nuclear weapons plans to the internet.

He thought it was good for them (nutty Republicans) instead of realizing it just proved how irresponsible/insane they are.

[originalpckelly]

5. This is in principle no different than what Sy Hersch is reporting about Cheney...

they are planning on using smaller tactical nukes, which means they are probably nuclear bunker busters.

These Likudniks really think Iran wants to nuke them, and since they can't get Americans to do it, they may have to do it.

OMG! This could really fucking just fuck up the world so much.

[NoodleyAppendage]

6. Hmmm...news out just in time to help Bush's justification for TROOP ESCALATION.

Sounds like Mossad is planting stories again to either push Iran to make a first move or to provide the US with further justification for our mire in the Middle East.

I'M SO FUCKING SICK OF PRO-ISRAEL NEOCON BULLSHIT.

[originalpckelly]

7. It's not everyone in Israel, it's the same far right nuts who've taken control in our country...

Yep, definitely to push, the Times is a Murdoch paper. I wouldn't trust their motives whatsoever.

[NoodleyAppendage]

9. No offense meant. I hope you guys are more successful in routing the Neocon than us.

It's high time that the "adults" take over in all countries.

J

[originalpckelly]

11. No, I mean "our" as in America.

Sorry, that was a vague sentence. Though I know that not all Israelis feel this way. I have taken a personal interest in Israel, because Israel is our puppet. They do what we want. So knowing about Israel, tells us more about America.

Sorry. :hi:

[Superman Returns]

8. if this is true,

why would it be leaked?

[originalpckelly]

12. Why do you think our ships are in the Gulf?

:shrug:

They didn't just pop up in the ME. They are either trying to get Iran to attack us out of imminent danger, or they are trying to get Iran back to the bargaining table.


Remember: The Times of London is owned by News Corp. this is a story they want out there, because Murdoch wouldn't have allowed it published if it wasn't good for America/Israel/reichwingers in all Western countries.

[MannyGoldstein]

14. And Elvis Will Be Pulling The Trigger n/t

[originalpckelly]

15. We shall see if it is BS in only 33 minutes, because that's when the Sunday Times...

will be published online.

[Junkdrawer]

17. Yep. If the Sunday Times prints the story, the shit will hit the fan....n/t

[originalpckelly]

28. Zee shit has hit zee fan.

[muriel_volestrangler]

19. Link to Sunday Times story

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2535310,00.html

[democrank]

20. Thanks, m_v.

Just what the world needs. Another war.

[NoodleyAppendage]

21. Key sentence in article.

"However, the nuclear-tipped bunker-busters would be used only if a conventional attack was ruled out and if the United States declined to intervene, senior sources said."

So, this whole article is a lead in to our actions against Iran...as I suspected.

Here goes round two of the George Bush "Let's Fuck Up the World" program.

[jedr]

23. Every country with nukes have contingency plans to use them;

We have plans to nuke Canada if needed....doesn't mean it will happen. Israel would be covered in fall-out if such a thing were to happen.....veiw it as a worst case scenario.:nuke:

[KoKo]

26. This has been "rumored/reported" for months...but if Murdoch is reporting it

then it means that he's "turned" or that someone or some group has "turned him" to have him report this to stop the Israeli's from going forward. :shrug:

[originalpckelly]

29. No, it's to get the idea out there. No one except Sy Hersch was talking about this.

Until now. It's going to be THE story on all the Sunday talk shows.

[w4rma]

25. That would be the end of Israel. I dont think the neocons leading that government are suicidal. (nt)

[originalpckelly]

30. I don't think they actually are competent enough to understand...

how insane this is. Ask yourself one question:
What if Iraq was a mistake on their part?

They have victory disease:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_disease

[bluewave]

31. I didn't think they'd be dumb enough to pull the Lebanon fiasco

but they did. This would be significantly more stupid, however.