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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 12:01 PM
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To King George: "Lawyer up, Because they're coming for you."
DeepModem Mom get the cred for this. It felt so good, I had to re-post.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=3048056

Miers Steps Down As White House Gears Up for Battle

By Peter Baker and R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, January 5, 2007; Page A01

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/04/AR2007010400778.html

The advice, according to this person, could be summed up this way: "You guys better lawyer up, and lawyer up in the right way. You better understand the need and the peril and the urgency. . . . You need somebody as tough as Harold Ickes or Bruce Lindsey. Because they're coming for you."

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 12:08 PM
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1. typical jr - she's not good enough to defend *me*, but
I thought she was good enough to defend the constitution (SC nom)
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 02:46 PM
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10. Wow. Really well said. n/t.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 12:10 PM
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2. So it turns out that poor, loyal Harriet was sacked.
Not to suggest I feel sorry for a fawning tool who has been enabling Bush all these years, but it sounds like for those thugs loyalty and $3.00 will get you a double-skim latte when someone suggests it's time to be fitted for an orange jumpsuit. All sorts of interesting karma is taking hold, n'est pas?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 02:54 PM
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13. Fawning indeed. He kept her on because she's in love with him.
I read it in a link here somewhere, awhile ago, about how bush has surrounded himself with women in love with him: laura, contradicta, harriet, and karen hughes. Icky females, all. And with such bad taste in men!
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 12:17 PM
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3. This is great news! Lawyer up! K&R n/t
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 02:47 PM
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11. Thanks!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 12:20 PM
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4. Notice the source....'the PERSON' to whom they attributed that quote
I initially thought the PERSON was Mary Matalin, but now I am wondering if it might not be HARRIET herself!
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WritersBlock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 12:32 PM
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5. And once again, in honor of such a great line:




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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 12:57 PM
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6. Priceless, WritersBlock! Thanks! n/t
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 01:35 PM
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7. Great pic!
Saved this one, * looks sooooo little.
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poiuytsister Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 02:02 PM
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8. Oh Boy
Let's play Whack-a-Bush
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 02:48 PM
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12. Beautiful!!!! MMMMmmmmmuuuaaaaww! n/t.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 02:21 PM
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9. As I recall, there was a connection between Miers' name being withdrawn
as Sup Ct nominee, and a reported visit of Treasongate prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald with Bush's personal lawyer (not Miers)--or a provocative coincidence in the timing of the two things. Let's see, back in June '06, was it? Rumors flying that Rove was about to be indicted. Rove's lawyer says no, but won't produce letter that Fitz sent him--so spec is that Fitz is holding Rove on a leash, re his testimony at Libby's coming trial. My theory of Treasongate is that Rove--although never innocent--was a bag man in that operation, and may have been set up by Libby to be left holding it--so his non-indictment was never important--except politically--but his testimony was/is important to Fitz in the lying/obstruction case against Libby, and perhaps in going after Cheney, or--my pick for mastermind--Rumsfeld. Anyhoo, in middle of all this, as I recall, a day or two after Fitz visits Bush's other lawyer, suddenly Bush withdraws Miers' name--which, as I recall, was very surprising to everybody.

Now, what could the relationship be? One of my theories is that Miers was used to disinform Rove on the legality of outing Valerie Plame. Rove did some of the dirty work--helped out Plame (--not to mention the entire WMD counter-proliferation network that she headed, putting all of our covert agents/contacts at risk of death)--then found out it was illegal--and (according to a passage in Joe Wilson's book) had a dustup with Libby about it. Libby had set him up. Spec: Libby got Miers to lie to Rove that Rove was okay legally, and had concocted the cover story that the whole thing was Rovian political revenge (so typical of Rove) against Wilson, for his public dissent on the justifications for the war.

It's interesting that, meanwhile, Cheney has marked up some news clippings of Wilson's NYT article (--that the Niger/Iraq nuke connection was bunk), making it look like Cheney was oh-so-worried about this dissenting voice. I think the whole thing is shuckin jive (--that they cared a hoot about public opinion, or a newsstream that they had near complete control of). I don't think they outed Plame to punish Wilson (or primarily to punish Wilson). I think they outed Plame to STOP Plame--who was our chief counter-proliferation expert--from finding out about, or foiling, their plan to plant phony nukes in Iraq, to be "found" by the US troops (accompanied by Iraq War/WMD propagandist, and NYT "journalist," Judith Miller, who was planted there to "get the scoop"; according to her, she had a special embed contract signed by Donald Rumsfeld). I think it's possible that, in July 2003, they still thought they could pull it off. They had tried once or twice in the March-June invasion period, and had gotten foiled or tripped up.* In that case, stopping Plame and her network from detecting them, in their final attempt, would be their motive. (And what does outing that entire counter-proliferation network--and putting its people in grave danger--have to do with political punishment of Wilson? --nothing. So why did they do it--in a second Novak column, a week after the first one outing Plame herself?) Their other motive--if they weren't still trying to plant nukes in Iraq--was to disable this network for future purposes, i.e., planting nuke material in Iran, or WMD war profiteering/illicit arms trading. But I believe that it was the NETWORK they were after--and that the Rove political revenge story is a cover story.

Miers fits comfortably into the creation of that cover story. She is a Bush Cartel toady--and wouldn't hesitate to lie for their ends. I'm neutral on the matter of her competence. I don't know. So it's possible she didn't know what she was doing. The aftermath (and foremath) of the withdrawal of her name was a bit odd--Democrats saying she wasn't qualified, wingers agreeing (and maybe not wanting a woman?)--all very murky. Why would the Bush Junta give a crap what Democrats thought? And what Democrats think of as "unqualified" would be exactly what wingers want (ignorant of the Constitution, dismissive of civil rights, malleable, bought and paid for, oil cartel operative). It didn't add up very well. But a visit from Fitz quietly apprising Bush's PERSONAL lawyer that Miers "has a problem" with the Treasongate/Libby case, and that she had better not be put in the Sup. Ct., could explain their abrupt withdrawal of her name.

A lot of speculation here. Bear that in mind. If the above has any truth to it--or if something similar occurred on some other issue (there are so many possibilities with this crime gang!)--their firing her now could have to do with her complicity in something, or the potential for her to rat on them about something, or her refusal to take the rap for something, as well as with her being a toady, and not smart enough to keep them out of jail.

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*(I think the initial foilings of their probable plot to plant nukes in Iraq may have something to do with the strange death of the Brits chief WMD expert, David Kelly, four days after Plame was outed.)
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 03:00 PM
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14. Wow, PP. I didn't think about Miers' connection to Plame. It does fit
in well with all else surrounding the manufacture of the intel they wanted for the invasion.

And, when this was announced, and then it was explained that he'll have a team of lawyers, doesn't it make sense to keep her on as an assistant to the big guns? After all, the details of the neo-con machinations are deep and complicated. Those new guns will need someone like harriet to keep the names and dates and connections accurate. These guys are going to need her.

So, I'll bet there's alot of truth to your theory that she's too dangerous to keep around, for one reason or another.

Bet she'll be off on a cruise ship right when the testimony unearths her associations to all of this.

No matter what, in a few years, when most of the neo-con details have finally emerged, this is going to make Watergate look like a $2 shoplifting charge.


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