Four-in-Ten Americans Predict War with Iran

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http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/14297

(Angus Reid Global Monitor) - Some adults in the United States believe their country will become involved militarily with Iran this year, according to a poll by Ipsos-Public Affairs released by the Associated Press. 40 per cent of respondents think it is likely that the U.S. will go to war with Iran.

In addition, 35 per cent of respondents believe the military draft will be reintroduced, 29 per cent think the U.S. will withdraw its troops from Iraq, and 26 per cent expect a military conflict with North Korea.

After being branded as part of an "axis of evil" by U.S. president George W. Bush in January 2002, Iran has contended that its nuclear program aims to produce energy, not weapons.

On Dec. 23, the United Nations (UN) Security Council unanimously voted to impose sanctions against Iran after it failed to stop uranium enrichment. On Jan. 2, Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad declared, "Let the world know that from the Iranian nation’s point of view, this resolution has no validity. I want (the United States) to know that the Iranian nation has humiliated you many times, and it will humiliate you in future."

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1. WH Marketing Dept Manufacturing Consent Again

YMMV but Four in Ten Americans would choke to death on their own toenails if they could reach them.

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3. Yes AGAIN!

That's the point isn't it? Before Iraq who knew the word neocon? Who was paying attention?

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8. Well, I'm one of them.

Predicting war is not the same as advocating war.

Unless we put a stop to it, we WILL attack Iran. As * is a lame duck with nothing to lose but a catastrophic reputation, I fully expect that he wants a Hail Mary success to change his image at the last minute. He will claim that we must stop Iran from having nukes.

Is a nuclear Iran a threat to us? You think they don't know that if they drop a single nuke their entire country will be turned to glass? We must make people consider that side of it, if we are going to stop this war juggernaut.

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13. You're right. But, once the public is convinced that something

is a fait accompli -- even though most are against it, or only very mildly, contingently in favor -- then such an action becomes much easier politically.

I certainly don't believe that everyone who's warning us about the Iran war drums secretly has a pro-war agenda. I also wrote some warning pieces in 2004 and 2005, but became convinced that the Pentagon was against it. And, indeed, that seemed to put a stop to the most aggressive rhetoric last year. But, as Drew Barrymore said, "They're back."

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2. Sounds like a push-poll.

Notice how they distort the UN resolution (which DOES NOT authorize the use of force) and highlight Ahmadinejad's rhetoric.

Never heard of the Angus Reid Global Monitor, and Ipsos is not one of the major polling outfits.

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4. Yes they distort

isn't that what their there for?

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5. What Goes Up Must Come Down Spinning Wheel Got To Go Round n/t

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7. Ride a painted pony, let the spinnin' wheels spin . . .

Got no money, got no clothes . . .

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9. but look what Larry Johnson is saying

Clapper and McConnell are worrisome choices because they are known in the intelligence community as guys willing to give their customers what they want. Unlike Negroponte, who took a pretty tough analytical stance dismissing the imminence of an Iranian threat, Clapper and McConnell will be more than willing collaborators in making a case that Iran is a serious, immediate threat. If you want to cook the books then these guys can be master chefs.

more at:
http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/01/taking_stock_of.html#more


and Hersh, Ritter

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11. Can't agree with Larry's conclusion.

He points out that the Intel Community is now effectively being run by 100% serving and retired flag officers. But, what Larry doesn't acknowledge, is that it's been this very cadre that's been pushing back against direct military action with Iran.

Replacing Negroponte with retired Navy Admiral John M. McConnell and appointing retired Air Force Lt. General James Clapper as the Under Secretary of Intelligence at DOD, where he will be in charge of coordinating the budgets and activities of the NSA, the NRO, Defense Human Services, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency (NGA), and the Defense Intelligence Agency, will give the military unprecedented control of the intelligence community. This will mark the first time since World War II the active duty or former military officers are running the main intelligence assets of the United States.

I don't know where these individuals stand personally on Iran, but anyone who was an enemy of Woolsey is probably not a natural born neocon:

While he was director Clapper spent much pf his time politicking and scheming to take away from the Director of the CIA any and all moneys that were budgeted for any support to the armed forces. He wanted to make himself “Director of Military Intelligence,” a new title, so that he could receive his fourth star as a full general. He was defeated in this attempt by the then DCI James Woolsey.

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6. Look at what the accompanying poll says about Dems in Congress!

Angus Reid Global Monitor : Polls & Research
Americans Split on How New Congress Will Act
January 5, 2007
(Angus Reid Global Monitor) - Adults in the United States are divided on the way the Democratic leaders in Congress will perform, according to a poll by Opinion Research Corporation released by CNN. 46 per cent of respondents expect a real reform to the way the legislative branch operates, while 49 per cent do not.

That's also considerably skewed from what the election results tell us.

I tend to discount this organization's credibility.

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10. Some info on Angus Reid and some lieutenants

Has a relationship with Time, Nestle, and the Woodrow Wison Center. Nothing conclusive here, but worth some further probings.

http://www.angus-reid.com/about/index.cfm/fuseaction/bios


Angus Reid

CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, ANGUS REID STRATEGIES

Angus Reid is a leader in the market research industry with a career spanning over three decades. From 1979 to 2001, he was founder and CEO of the Angus Reid Group. Under his direction, the company grew into one of the largest research enterprises in North America. It was sold to Ipsos SA in 2000. In 2004 Angus joined Vision Critical, a pioneer in online research solutions, where he serves as CEO. He is a past recipient of the Marketer of the Year Award from the American Marketing Association, the Entrepreneur of the Year (Pacific Region) and the distinguished career award from the Canadian Public Relations Society. In addition to his PhD in Sociology he holds honorary doctorates from Simon Fraser and Manitoba universities. Angus currently serves as a member of the advisory board for Nestle Canada and advisory board chairman of the Canada Institute of the Woodrow Wilson Centre in Washington, DC.

Mario Canseco

DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL STUDIES AND EDITOR OF THE ANGUS REID GLOBAL MONITOR

Mario Canseco has collaborated as a reporter and researcher for several media outlets, including Time Magazine, Global, CTV and the Vancouver Sun. He has also worked as an editorial researcher for author Peter C. Newman and journalist Robert Mason Lee. His articles on international politics have appeared in Time, the Vancouver Sun, Common Ground, Aduanas and La Razón. He has also worked as a radio reporter and anchor for Sistema Radiopolis and Cablevision in Mexico, and as a correspondent for a website in Spain.


Gabriela Perdomo

RESEARCH ASSOCIATE, GLOBAL STUDIES AND ANGUS REID GLOBAL MONITOR

Gabriela Perdomo works for the Angus Reid Global Monitor website, which provides polls, political analyses, election trackers and everything related to world opinion and democracy. Gabriela was born in Bogotá, Colombia, where she started a journalistic career as the international news editor for the national television newscast Noticias Uno. Gabriela holds a Master of Journalism from the University of British Columbia, and a Bachelor of Literature from Bogotá’s Universidad de los Andes. She specializes in Latin American politics, international affairs and global trade.

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12. Thanks leveymg

for that. It's just that this neo con war with Iran cannot be ignored, even their rigged polls should at least be discussed

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14. Yes, yes! We need to discuss this.

Just pointing out that the incessant "war with Iran before the elections" buzz we were hearing from some quarters was, at the very least, premature. I don't believe it's inevitable, and a real war with Iran would be just as disastrous and contrary to national interests today, or next year, as they were when war-gamed three years ago.

With the military running intelligence, and the neocons being chased around by the FBI and Congress, I don't think it's going to happen.

As I've said before, there is a psyops going to keep Iran off balance while we withdraw from Iraq, but don't mistake the usual sabre-rattling for an imminent attack.