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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 07:35 PM
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Just threw my shoe at the TV . . .
Watching CSPAN and there’s this discussion of the affects of raising minimum wage. Does it increase prices, cut profits and so forth.

This asshole says (paraphrasing), ”Perhaps we should look at all aspects of compensation. Things like pensions, health care and other benefits that aren’t part of the wage itself.”

Minimum wage and pensions in the same sentence? What planet do these motherfuckers live on?
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 07:37 PM
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1. easy there
just 'cause they are dolts... don't break the tube!
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 07:37 PM
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3. It was a fuzzy slipper . . . nt
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 08:18 PM
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16. TV
See if you break your TV set, then you would have to hire someone to fix it for $5.15 per hour
and that would defeat the purpose.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 07:37 PM
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2. After 20 years of service in a minimum wage job
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 07:38 PM by Horse with no Name
One could reasonably expect a pension of $2000 wouldn't you say?:sarcasm:
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 07:39 PM
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5. Thank some Deity somewhere for DU. The other outlets I have
won't let me use the profanity I do here.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 07:39 PM
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4. Pensions? health care?
:rofl:
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 07:40 PM
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6. Just how many people making minimum wage GET pensions and
health benfits?

With great respect to kineneb, I'd say your shoe-throwing was well-justified.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 07:55 PM
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8. is ok
I had a $10/hour job with no benefits. So I do understand. Those at the bottom of the pay scale don't even get such things as paid vacations or sick leave.

I prefer to throw those foam fake rocks or balls of yarn. Still feels good but causes no damage to household goods. No sense of breaking something just 'cause the boobs on the toob are ignoramuses. (I don't have a TV, so I have been known to pitch things in the direction of the radio; usually insults and curses.)
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 07:52 PM
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7. My company provides benefits
IT has several tiers of education from "off the street" to needing 3 months-18 months technical training, or a college degree (for management).

We start off paying minimum wage with pay increases of ~2% each year you work here. We also have a 401(k) plan for all full time employees, health, dental, vision benefits and a gym reimbursement plan.

So yes you can work for minimum wage and have the opportunity to receive other benefits.

All that said, I don't know how many of our minimum wage employees use the benefits offered.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 07:57 PM
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10. Plus, while that's good, it's hard to say how common that is.
But I'd have to guess, Not Very.
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 07:58 PM
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11. Wonderful. I'm glad to hear that somewhere there is a company
that starts at this level and nurtures it's employees.

For myself, I've worked for mom & pop and I've worked for multinational corps. The MN's don't give a shit and the M&Ps can't afford it.

I don't know who your employer is but bless them for putting humanity into the company plan.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 07:56 PM
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9. HAHA! That's why I don't watch ANY televised news
network or cable. I'd be replacing the set almost daily from all the objects going into the screen. I now have a small LCD set and, while more durable than CRT sets, they do have screens that can crack easily.

In GOPworld, they're all convinced workers can live on air or tap nonexistent trust funds. Wages paid are always a negative drain on corporate finances and workers never produce goods and services. Everything flows from the top down, and jobs are handed out as welfare by corporations that expand whenever they have money, whether or not they have customers for their products.

Yeah, they're nuts. Everything they believe is 180 degrees from the truth.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 07:59 PM
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12. There has been talk over the years
about taxing as income the amount an employer pays toward an employee's health insurance coverage. That would in effect raise the tax burden of working people.

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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 08:14 PM
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13. Well companies do have to pay the company side of Soc Sec.
So they can claim that they are paying .38 per hour to your "pension"..... :grr: Repug Math....
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 08:20 PM
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17. Yep. Not even enough per hour to pay for first class
... postage, let alone first class anything else. :puke:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 08:16 PM
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14. The same planet where they believe that health care can be
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 08:17 PM by Cleita
accessed by all as long as they save their money in health savings accounts or income tax credits for medical expenses can make up for it.
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 08:17 PM
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15. Those ASSHOLES are NUTS!!!!!
"Pensions AND Health Care"?????!!!!

PLUS "OTHER BENEFITS" of being on MINIMUM WAGE??!!!!

Those ASSHOLES are FUCKING CRAZY!!!!

They MUST be COMPLETELY out of touch with REALITY!!!!!

"Other benefits" of being on MINIMUM WAGE!!!!!!!!
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