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ruiner4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:06 PM
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For those who have watched the online vid of Saddams execution..
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 11:13 PM by ruiner4u
How sick was that? <and ONLY those who have watched>

I ask, because, the hooded guys, the taunting, the yelling.... I felt pains in my neck and and sick to my stomach when CNN was showing the pics of him..

but the yelling and the taunting... and remembering nick berg's death... Are these the people we want to ally ourselves with?
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:10 PM
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1. I didn't and I never will watch it. This is so ugly. I'm so glad I don't have cable.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:11 PM
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2. These are George W. Bush's allies.
Illegal immoral sick invasion of a nation that hadn't been doing a damned thing to anyone, least of all to us.

A thug dictator whose atrocities were 20+ years ago with US support, with even HRW and AI saying there was NO JUSTIFICATION for bush's illegal immoral sick invasion as there were NO ONGOING ATROCITIES being committed in Iraq & the worst happened 20+ years ago. With US support. Hanged. After a farce of a trial. With US support.

What a "show of democracy" for the world.

NOT in MY NAME.

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dicknbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:28 AM
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19. Amen and AMEN!!!!!!
True true true
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:12 PM
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3. About the Nick Berg video...
Don't the guys standing around look like westerners?

Why wear sunglasses AND cover your face, unless you've got blue eyes?

They all seem to be standing "at ease" like guys with military training. And no one's wearing the ubiquitous sandals we see all over the place when "real" Arabs are around.

I'm just an old conspiracy theorist at heart. :shrug:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:14 PM
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4. I refused to watch for my own reasons, however, reading other
people's version of what they saw, it seems that your suspicions are valid. Too bad we will never know.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:16 PM
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5. Maybe Iraq will produce another Robert Baer type guy who
tells all years later.
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Johnny Appleseed Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:19 PM
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6. Bush wanted a fair election in which every vote counted...
so of course the 70% majority shiite party comes out on top, though they turn out to be no better than the baathist thugs they replaced. They should have gone colonial with the election, hyper-colonial even, and set up different prerequisites for valid voting rights. Maybe an IQ test, firm belief in the separation of church and state... I dunno... The so called democratic election was a complete farse, that's all I do know.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:19 PM
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7. Actually, my opinion of him jacked up a notch when he waved off the hood
The chaos was so totally Iraqi.

But his defiance and pride in the face of Death was pretty impressive.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:30 PM
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8. Socioopathic Murderers do not impress me...
these people know no anxieties.

that's why the death penalty was not punishment for him. But I wouldn't expect our folks to fully understand that. They were going for the US PR stunt. Won't work.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:44 PM
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11. Since you brought it up...
I served for years with a bunch of ruthless, sociopathic crazies.

They still wet their pants and cried for their mothers when faced with Death (myself included).

My life has been on the line many times and I have ended far too many lives.

I have thought about my own execution many times.

And if it ever comes to it, I only hope that I show the same stoicism that Hussein exhibited (up to the shouting part, that is).
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:08 AM
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26. huh?
what on earth do you do for a living?!
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:56 AM
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27. I am retired
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dicknbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:31 AM
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20. You know that Sadam had much more courage then Bush at least he killed people himslef
Bush woudln't have the guts to do it. I don't in any way condone anything that SH did to any human being but in a match up of facing your enemies Mano a Mano Sadam wins hands down
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:33 PM
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9. I watched the video that was taken via cell phone -
- so it was of really poor quality. It was rather confusing but I do believe I heard what must have been a countdown just based on the tone of the words and that they were repeated together. I thought it rather quick - certainly quicker than what was described about the Nick Berg video, which I did not see.

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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:37 PM
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Isn't anyone a little bit curious
that the quality video stopped and this B&W phone video was allowed to be made and exported?

I can see it now..."Ooops, let me take out my Moto and call my wife to ask her what kind of tomatoes to pick up on the way home."
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:17 AM
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16. I know, didn't they notice the camera phone?
:shrug:

It looks intentional to me.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:37 PM
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10. I watched it but my cats knocked my speakers off to regions unknown
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 11:37 PM by Carni
The viewing was disgusting.

I am only thankful that the film work was blurry and kept moving.

I wasn't able to hear the sounds taking place so I was speared that particular disgusting aspect.

It was very sick even without sound.

The man may have been the worst of tyrants, but on a global stage it was our responsibilty as a nation and superpower (who invaded based on lies) to make this look better than an episode of the sopranos.


I know we were better than this pre George W and his admin and I hope that one day after he is deposed that we can be again but currently that seems very far away given what I have just watched.

I am ashamed.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:04 AM
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12. Does anybody here believe that * would have waved off the hood? n/t
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:13 AM
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13. I thought they were shouting prayers
but I don't speak Arabic. Were they really yelling taunts? Ouch that's gotta hurt! And then to get hanged too!!

(I'm kidding. The yelling seemed natural to me somehow)

Gah, The whole thing was ghastly.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:15 AM
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14. I completely agree. It's really changed my mind about the execution..
It wasn't being done for justice, it was the peasants storming the castle and killing those inside. Maybe we should look at ourselves? How is killing Saddam by hanging him, any different than what he did to his fellow Iraqis?
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:16 AM
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15. It didn't seem sick to me even with the taunting.

It all seemed a little chaotic, but then again, who is practiced at hanging a dictator.


Not that I would want to die that way, but it did seem fast.
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dicknbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:37 AM
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23. Well you would think that if the "Government" of Iraq was in control of this...
That there would have been a bit more solemnity to the event. Perhaps some military or at least Police in charge of the situation. I have not watched the video but I heard aan audio of it for a brief moment on the radio today and it did indeed sound a bit chaotic. and then the pitures in the papers seem to show a disregard or repect for the dead. In the end it was a Kangaroo court forordainded as to its conclusion. There was no way the vedict would have been diffferent.
THe invasion was illegal the trial was illegal the execution was illegal and it is all on the head of bush.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:18 AM
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17. Saddam did maintain his composure
Can you imagine how the dictator W would have conducted himself?
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durtee librul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:37 AM
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24. Dicktater would have
been screaming for fright white momma all the time while pissin and shitting on himself.

He would have had to have been carried up the steps. He would have been wiggling like a puppy trying to get away from it's owner.

I agree with the poster that Saddam faced death pretty well. No tears, no whining or crying....just a 'do it and get it over with' attitude. Tough guy to the end. At least during life he faced (and eliminated) his enemies face to face...our poor pasty faced frat boy can't even attend funerals of those who did his dirty work for him.

No, I am NOT a Saddam syumpathisizer (new word, it's late here) - I do not condone what he had done in his life time.



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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:18 AM
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18. I will NOT watch that....
...I think it's sick. I cut off my damn cable tv service in 2001 and this is one reason why.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:33 AM
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21. The pageantry didn't bother me ...
... the black masks, the yelling, the mistreatement, no worse than a TV re-enactment of a SWAT raid on a drug dealer.

How it happened, the "show", is not the problem for me.

It's the fact that he was killed. Granted he was a murderous thug, but he was captured by us during an illegal unwarranted war. We shouldn't have been there, shouldn't have deposed him, shouldn't have captured him.

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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:37 AM
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22. Yeah, I saw it
But I was a lot more horrified and sickened when I saw the pictures of the deformed babies that resulted from depleted uranium in Iraq. That's truly hell on earth, and I think those images should be required viewing for everyone--people need to know what these "weapons" are doing to the people of this planet.

This BushFlash.com animation says it all...informative and unforgettable:

http://www.bushflash.com/pl_lo.html
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:52 AM
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25. I thought it was barbaric.
I fully understand that Saddam executed innocent people in far more grizzly of a fashion but I still am disgusted by the taking of a human life, especially in such an organized and deliberate a fashion.

The moment of death is a disturbing thing to watch. It is especially disturbing when it is accompanied by taunts and cheers. Saying that it was done in the name of justice doesn't change the fact that it is still murder.
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