Unedited video of Saddam execution (**Graphic**)

[jefferson_dem]

Here it is. Very graphic. For "edification" purposes, i guess...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7532034279766935521

[Peace Patriot]

1. Please see my post "Bush = Death" for a discussion of positive imaging.

We need to crowd out this Hangman image with our own life-giving and loving imagery. Truly. These Dark Lords are playing mind-games. And there are ways to resist. THEY want a year of more Death and Darkness. What do YOU want? What have YOU seen, what do YOU know, of human goodness and hope, and of the rebirth of American democracy? Form it in your mind. Hold that image fast. Push back!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3034424

[itsmesgd]

2. WOW, it took less than one day!

I don't think that I am ready to watch this. I don't think that I will ever watch this.
Who put this out? I thought that most of the media was semi-decent by self-censoring themselves last night.

[RetroLounge]

3. I'm not going to watch

Why are we posting SNUFF films on DU?

RL

[Rick Myers]

5. Can't see anything anyway!!!

Just a bunch of excited guys in Arabic and the video looks like the cameraguy was kicking the camera around. But, it is pathetic. Also, a different camera angle than the 'broadcast' footage.

[rockymountaindem]

8. Well, you can see the drop

something they didn't show on TV. You can also see how badly his neck is broken afterwards. Otherwise it's just a bunch of shouting.

[jefferson_dem]

9. I can appreciate your sentiment. Actually, i wish i hadn't watched.

Some images stay with you, you know...and taint the soul.

Please know that i did not post this on DU out of some sick gratuitous fanciful pleasure of spreading snuff. I just believe it important that we be able to see what we have done, however grotesque the images. If the mods believe it to be content not appropriate for this board, by all means...it should be removed.

[Rick Myers]

16. I agree with you, jefferson_dem!

It's on mainstream sites already, and it is part of the history of the United States. Don't forget, the government IS us, and this is being done in our name!!! Sick. We made him a demon. He was our 'asset.'

[RetroLounge]

28. So was Britney's cooter all over the web

but not here...

RL

[Rick Myers]

31. It's not here, it's hosted on Google

And I'm sure the Lounge had links to several cooters in the past. This happens to be an issue of international significance. They did this in your name, in MY name. America is DIRECTLY responsible for what you see there.

[RetroLounge]

39. I don't NEED to see it...

to know what a sham this trial was and what was done in our name.

I can see it ALL OVER THE WEB if I want...

But get your snuff-film kicks if you'ld like, I'll pass...

RL

[Waya]

20. Wished I hadn't watched it either.....

.....

[Ahpook]

25. It's an assassination.

I won't watch either.

[Canuckistanian]

64. I was initially interested in seeing it

But you're right. It was a quick n' dirty assassination done by a an illegitimate government under the occupation of an immoral invader.

Thanks for putting it in perspective.

[Arkansas Granny]

19. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

[malaise]

26. Not watching

It's all disgusting.

[aikoaiko]

56. Its very far from being a snuff film. nt

[LSK]

98. I started to, but turned it off after a few seconds

[Rick Myers]

4. Why are these guys all such lousy cameramen???

Just looks like another TERRAIST video, only now, America is the TERRAIST!!!

Goddess help us...

on edit: I'm not casting apsersions, I just happened to hear they had at least one HDTV camera, but all the footage looks like it was shot with a camera phone. I heard that IS the source of the 'shroud' footage, a camera phone.

[Radio_Lady]

6. I am not going to watch this. Years ago, we wondered whether pay-per-view would ever

broadcast executions for a fee.

I guess they can get onto the Internet for free these days. I'm surprised they allowed cameras at this hanging.

Jeeze... Louise.

How horrible!

[Rick Myers]

14. There have been many videos available online MUCH MUCH worse than this...

Nick Berg, assorted military videos and several high-profile sites carry ALL of it! Is it sick? I don't know. Yes, I have looked at some of it, but not much. But I have to defend the sites right to post it.

We live in a world where our tech has out-stripped our ethics and morals.

Interesting thing is, this footage is a different angle than the footage used by the MSM. I assume the Iraqis knew they had to show it to their people, so it was sure to get out. I'm amazed it took 20 hours.

[howmad1]

54. Yea, every Bushit press conference.

[ContraBass Black]

7. Is the calling of Al-Sadr's name audible?

[90-percent]

11. well

I think it's the duty of all patriotic Americans to witness the horrible death of the mastermind behind the 9-11 attacks.

I will no longer have to live in fear of any smoking guns coming in the form of a mushroom cloud. It's also nice to see American principles in action. This sort of thing is EXACTLY what the founding fathers had in mind when they created the United States of America.

-85% Jimmy

[Pastiche423]

33. What The Hell Are You Talking About?

"I think it's the duty of all patriotic Americans to witness the horrible death of the mastermind behind the 9-11 attacks.'

How can anyone be that ignorant? Who the hell are you referring to?

The mastermind behind the 9-1 attacks???"

[zappa_parappa]

40. dude...theres this thing called sarcasm

and if you read the post, im sure you'd realize that it was prevalent through the entire post. Please think before you respond.

[Pastiche423]

44. To start with, I am not a dude

There is a smilie on this web site called "sarcasm". Since you did not use it, yur post must be taken as your true feelings.

Please think before you post.

[90-percent]

96. Apologies

I channel the hypothetical American ignoramus when I post. It's an attempt at satirical humor. I hardly ever post my true honest bona fide feelings, mostly because I'm not deep enough to have a well defined set of principles to live by. They're elastic and in a constant state of flux.

This whole execution is a medieval miscarriage of justice and is a continuation of the string of cretinous moves our government has made on our behalf in the Middle east since Jan 6, 2001.

The proper reaction of the hypothetical "patriotic American" should be to violently overthrow the current administration and replace it with one of the people. Although the current tact of using "elections" and "voting" may work after all, though quaint and outdated it may be.

It's time for the Dem's to "create their own reality"

-85% Jimmy

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

97. I Think You Were The One Owed An Apology, Not The Other Way Around.

Your post was perfectly fine and the sarcasm within it should've been readily apparent to anyone. Anyone who posted a knee jerk response to you as if you were serious would owe an apology, but I saw no reason that you should feel inclined to give one. It's a shame some react so quickly sometimes without using common sense.

[helderheid]

37. Edited because my sarcasm detector is on the fritz

[Waya]

18. Didn't hear Al- Sadr...

....but I heard someone yelling 'Moqtada, Moqtada[' several times...........

[originalpckelly]

30. I thought it sounded like Mohammed. I'll have to watch again.

Looks like it was taken on a camera phone.

[Malmo Blue]

46. Re: Moqtada

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_of_Saddam_Hussein

After the rope was secured, one executioner shouted, "Muqtada! Muqtada! Muqtada!" in reference to Muqtada al-Sadr; Saddam repeated the name mockingly.* He made more remarks after this, and was speaking at the moment the platform dropped.

* = http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/30/hussein/index.html

As a noose was tightened around Hussein's neck, one of the executioners yelled "long live Muqtada al-Sadr," Haddad said, referring to the powerful anti-American Shiite religious leader. Hussein, a Sunni, uttered one last phrase before he died, saying "Muqtada al-Sadr" in a mocking tone, according to Haddad's account.

[madeline_con]

74. Yes, they chant "Muqtada" several times....

As Saddam is saying, "There is no God but Allah, Muhammad is the messenger of God."

[Halliburton]

93. yeah it's audible

cnn has the actual translated video on its website but it stops right before the execution.

[undeterred]

10. Shakiest camera since the Blair witch hunt movie.

[Junkdrawer]

Yeah, this will stop all the "They let Saddam get away" theories. NOT. n/t

[madeline_con]

75. How many doubles did they saye he had?

I'm just sayin'...

[Johnny Appleseed]

12. Not that bad...

the camera man could not hold a steady picture, though he does capture Saddam going down very well. It is then dark/chaotic for a bit until he gets a decent close up of Saddam strung up. There is alot of rapid talking and I couldn't really make sense of any of it.

[Rick Myers]

29. No lights, cause the US can't keep a generator running! n/t

[cali]

13. Frankly, there was no need

to post a link here at DU. I'm sorry you did. DUers are certainly aware that the video exists.

[Contrite]

15. Jeez, who can even tell it's him

Might just as well be one of his doubles. Why should the video be this dim and jerky?

[Catherine Vincent]

17. No, I don't want to see it.

But thanks anyway.

[Gatchaman]

21. What drop?

I'm only interested in seeing this because we should all face the responsibility of our actions (or inactions).

[Squatch]

22. Not a pretty way to die.

[sweetheart]

23. 15 minutes

[earthside]

41. Another Icon Image ...

... of the George W. Bush regime.

It's all about fear, lies, torture and death.

[Bonhomme Richard]

24. What strikes me is that they sounded like thugs......

not professionals witnessing and conducting a state execution.

[Squatch]

27. Different legal culture

[originalpckelly]

32. This looks like the Nick Berg video.

From the people wearing ski masks, instead of proper shrouds, to the high pitched shouting.

The only thing that was different is that Saddam didn't scream in pain. Of course, he probably couldn't scream even if he was in pain, because of the execution technique.

[Guaranteed]

35. That's a sound comparison. nt

[Maestro]

68. I'm assuming they were in masks

because they were afraid that they would be targeted by Baathist supporters. Some nice, stable democracy we brought, uh? It makes me sick.

[madeline_con]

76. Produced by the same group. n/t

[LibraLiz1973]

34. Yeah, not gonna watch

ewwwwwww

[G Hawes]

36. I think I'll pass,

thanks for the reviews, folks.

[Bluerthanblue]

38. i hate this... hate it hate it HATE IT, but

refusing to see it- refusing to witness mans inhumanity to man, doesn't make it stop-

DOESN'T MAKE IT NOT HAVE HAPPENED!!

What is it with the 'American people'???
We don't want to bother our 'pretty little heads' with the dark reality that exists outside our hollywood versions of 'what life is'????

Maybe if we had the Guillotine as the sole method of execution and forced the public to attend, we'd realize that the death penalty isn't something we really want to engage in any longer-

Our of sight- out of mind.


If people were forced to witness this- if people were forced to NOTICE what goes down in so many places all over this world- and right here in our own mean streets, maybe we'd be moved to act-



"....and i think to myself what a wonderful world (this could be)...." oh Louis...



i am so f$%kin sick .... and my meds ain't working -

[Johnny Appleseed]

42. You can actually watch executions in America...

as just happened in Florida with Danny Harold Rolling, the college campus slasher of 1990. A bunch of family members attended. Can't say I blame them...

If you were a disinterested observer, then it might be different I suppose.

[NYC]

48. My tax dollars at work.

All of us who financed this ought to be forced to watch what we have allowed.

[judaspriestess]

43. Disguting

I'm sure this only satisfied a fraction of bushies blood lust. Who's next???

[tazaroo]

45. A wood chipper would have been better

That was way to easy for him. Even a wood chipper would have been too easy. Didn't he used to use a metal grinder on people. They were slowly lowered into it feet first so they would slowly die. I'm gonna get a beer and watch it again. Don't mean to offend anyone here with such a harsh statement but he was evil in the flesh.

[PCIntern]

52. "Welcome to DU"

Hope you have a fire extinguisher...

[Halliburton]

94. shows how barbaric the puppet government is

these people are not all that civilized in my opinion. I'm glad the video stopped and didn't show the onlookers dancing around his body.

[Cruzan]

47. Graphic?!! It's not even close to being graphic

It's about as nongraphic as an execution could be. What's up with the "**graphic**" warning?

[jefferson_dem]

49. It's all relative, i guess.

Apparently, you think there's nothing graphic about close-ups of a dead man's face as he swings from a rope.

I'm sure others would find otherwise and appreciate the warning.

[mzmolly]

62. I do appreciate the warning, and I decided not to watch beyond 20 seconds.

*sigh*

[liberaltrucker]

83. The dead man is SADDAM

Not some common criminal. Sorry, but I :puke: agree with our lurker
friends on this. Whether you agree on the events leading up to his
execution (I don't), the guy had it coming. Now....on to "other" war
criminals....in The Hague!!

[mzmolly]

61. You don't find watching another human die "graphic?"

Here's a definition for you from dictionary.com as you appear to lack one.

1. giving a clear and effective picture; vivid: a graphic account of an earthquake.

This is a clear/effective/vivid depiction of the death of another human being >>>>>> 'GRAPHIC'

[Beelzebud]

63. Some people find human beings being killed graphic. Sorry you're not one of them.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

89. Congratulations for successfully overcoming the human empathy instinct.

You are ready to join the Armed Forces and go defend freedom in Iraq now. What are you waiting for?

[UTUSN]

50. I saw it, the same as I saw "The Passion of the Christ" and whatever else

is out there that can be used as a political weapon. Shrub should have to look at it repeatedly. But then, he probably enjoys it. I sent the link to the local radio wingnut 29%-er talkshow host under the title: "YOU BROKE IT, YOU BOUGHT IT."

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

90. Jim Caviezel DIDN'T DIE as a result of making THAT film (as bad as it was) -nt

[sam sarrha]

51. if you think that was bad... Bu$h executed 152 prisoners.. many many innocent.. so one can not be

indignant about Saddam's execution with out being 152X more indignant about the psychopathology of * . who as a child put firecrackers up frogs butts and blew them up for fun. and that was not an isolated event. it isn't surprising that he isn't concerned about the slaughter of our soldiers and the citizens of Iraq. or the suffering out of NOLA

[Connie_Corleone]

53. Nice camera shot of the stairs. Yeesh!

Must be video from a cell phone.

[NashVegas]

55. I'm Glad It's Up There

Let all America see what it's done.

In the long run, this is going to blow up in Bush's face.

[opihimoimoi]

57. Good clip for the FACES OF DEATH #243546

[aikoaiko]

58. Reminded me of a clint eastwood movie.

[Johnny Appleseed]

59. lol (nt)

[Beelzebud]

60. Isn't it a war crime to film and distribute execution/killing of prisoners?

We (America) have turned into a fucking monster.

[spacelady]

78. what about assassinating heads of state? Thought there was

a law against that too.

[Jed Dilligan]

65. Guilty of running a country,

of doing all the things our government would do if it faced the same kind of opposition.

RIP Saddam you old bastard. I wish we could do the same to the oppressors here.

[StrictlyRockers]

66. No way am I watching this.

Anyone who takes any kind of entertainment from this film is seriously deranged in my humble opinion.

Can we all please evolve as a species, puh-leeze?? This is base and barbaric. It is shameful! Why would you even post this here? GROSS!!

But when I posted the fictional video from the movie "Death of a President" of * getting shot (shows absolutely nothing but him ducking into a limo) it gets immediately removed.

And THIS is ok???!!

GROSS!!!!

SICK!!!!!

:puke:

SR

[imperial jedi]

88. I agree completely.

It sick inns me that so many people are getting their jollies from watching a man die. I don't care that he was evil, enjoying and/or getting excited ( as I have read elsewhere ) watching the snuff film is sick period and no one will ever change my mind on this. I cry for the soul and spirit of this nation.

[starbux by IV]

67. For fuck's sake - why would you WANT to watch?

sick.

[spacelady]

79. You watch so you cannot deny it happening later.

[Lawrence]

69. vvvv

hey now, that cameraman new the secret trick of jerking it around everywhere and filming the floor anything interesting is happening


I hate justifications for the iraq war but its still hard not to see this guy go down

[DuaneBidoux]

87. The horrow was originally our horror. Then we lost control and so

decided he had to go.

[spacelady]

70. I watched it & I hope that everyone who thought the "monster"

deserved this fate watched it. Feel better now? That's all I have to say about that.

[aaronbees]

82. I watched it too

and feel exactly the same way. There's something to be said for actually witnessing history and remembering what shouldn't happen again.

[SmokingJacket]

71. Why are you posting such shit?

I'm not interested in seeing the death of anything, not even a goddamn rat.

[madeline_con]

72. No one's forcing you to watch. n/t

[ruiner4u]

73. well some are...

and he has the right to post that...as disgusting as that was...

[karlrschneider]

77. I've always had a somewhat morbid curiosity but I'm passing on this one.

For several reasons, some of which have nothing to do with Saddam in particular. But I don't claim that anybody who wants to see it shouldn't be allowed to as long as it's out there.

[BrightKnight]

80. The actual hanging was apparently done properly.

His neck appeared to be broken. In theory the shock would have made him instantly unconscious.

They did the whole thing very quickly.

It is not a pleasant thing to watch. The Nuremberg death penalty was hanging.

[flying rabbit]

81. I wonder what his last meal was.

[liberaltrucker]

84. Hopefully a ham sammich

nt

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

91. I refer you to post #89. -nt

[HughBeaumont]

85. Gives Bewsh a chub, doesn't it?

Saddam was evil, but he was OUR evil.

Saddam was a bastard, but he was OUR bastard.

Saddam never stopped thinking about ways to harm his people and his country, and neither do we.

Someone PLEASE in the name of all that is holy tell me WHY there's a difference between what Saddam did and what George Berzerker Bewsh is doing and will continue doing until 1.20.2009?

* Turning Iraq into a bloodbath based on lies? Check.

* Killing his own people? Check. 3000 families of this country buried their loved ones because of lies. 20,000 more are maimed. Because of lies.

* Surrounded by a gangster ruling class cabal? Check.

* Fiercely protected by the military/police securitate? Check.

Pretty much all anyone can come up with would be along the lines of . . ."Well . . . we're the GOOD GUYS, and that's just THAT!"

[ButterflyBlood]

86. I've seen killing scenes in movies that look worse

You can't see crap. Just some masked guys yelling for awhile and then Saddam briefly hanging from a rope.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

92. I refer you to post #90. -nt

[madokie]

95. did you notice the steps were built from treadplate,

The person filming this wanted us to notice that for a reason and I think maybe it's because they don't themselves make stairs using treadplate, most likely it would be concrete for them. something tells me this is part of a more sinister plan that is being cooked up by the evil ones down at the pig farm