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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 09:11 AM
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Is AAR in bankrupsy
Edited on Tue Dec-26-06 09:12 AM by sasha031
I'm listening now, is it a repeat, I haven't been keeping up, been away.

Can someone please explain what is happening?
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Psychmd Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 09:13 AM
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1. It is called a christmas break
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 09:21 AM
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2. It's also called a rumor
LOL
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 09:27 AM
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3. Not so much a rumor.
They are under bankruptcy protection, but still for reorganization. Word was they signed an agreement to sell the network, which should keep it on.

Even if AAR closes up shop, it won't be the end for all the programming. Malloy's already got a new home, and I'm sure the Drobnys would invest in studio space to keep Randi Rhodes, at least. (She and the Drobnys go way back, so it's logical to assume she'd land at NovaM.) Thom Hartmann would still have his local show, and might get grabbed by NovaM for a national feed. Don't know what would happen with Sam or Rachel.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 09:31 AM
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5. Is NovaM just a streaming station
or is it actually on the dial somewhere? I've lost my Boston station and I am already missing it so much. I can't stand what they have left on the dial for us up here in blue Massachsuetts!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 09:35 AM
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8. Try red state hell
We have rush, o'reilly, savage and SPORTS TALK!! Yep, the fate of the Chiefs is infinitely more important than the fate of our nation here in red state hell.

If if wasn't for satellite radio, I would surely lose my mind.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 09:59 AM
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9. I feel like I am in red state hell
You describe just what is available on my dail. Add the local Citadell Broadcasting station (which has local rightwing talking heads! ) as well as hours of O'Reilly everyday, and there is no voice that sounds like what is in my head and my heart here anymore. I can't justify the expense for statelite right now (don't know when I could swing that either) so I am stuck with red state talk in my very blue state! It's been less than a week and I am already losing my mind!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 10:08 AM
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10. Satellite is cheap
Only $13 a month. And worth every penny.

Or you can always stream AAR on your computer. But I like to listen in my car.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 10:43 AM
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13. some months I don't have an extra $13 to spend on myself
Wish I did. Five years ago, I could have and would have, without a second thought. Not now though. the "Bush Economy" is killing me!

I have to do a bit of driving everyday as my job location is different everyday. That's just the way my job works. With hours of communting time in a day, it was sure nice to check in every few hours as I went to location to location and hear the voices inside my head projected with a different voice for a change.

I can stream when I am in my office at home, but not when I am on the road. And that makes me really angry that they took it away this way. It was always nice to come back to DU and not feel like I was totally out of the loop on the news or topic of the day. Now, who knows how much I won't hear about until way after it happened. :shrug:

I looked at the XM units over the holidays and just couldn't justify the expense on something for myself that had a reoccuring monthly charge. Some months get very thin around here these days.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 08:48 AM
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20. Here's hoping 2007 will be full of blessings for you!
:hi:
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 10:31 AM
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11. NovaM provides programming to terrestrial stations and satellite.
It's based out of KPHX in Pheonix, AZ, and is also heard in San Francisco, Seattle, and more stations coming online in upcoming weeks. Malloy is also heard live on Sirius 146.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 09:28 AM
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4. thank you
what would we ever do without AAR :hi:

HAPPY HOLIDAY'S
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 09:33 AM
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6. Life as we know it would end
LOL
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 09:34 AM
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7. They filed for bankruptcy in October, but they have since found a buyer:
http://phoenix.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/stories/2006/12/18/daily12.html

Madison investor Terry Kelly, who was one of the founders and a former board chairman of Air America radio, is leading an investor group that has signed a letter of intent that would allow the liberal talk network to exit bankruptcy, according to the New York Times.

Kelly has taken the lead equity position in the group that includes "a new strategic media partner he declined to name," the Times said in its Monday edition. Kelly and another source declined to predict when such a deal might reach fruition, the paper said.

And, BTW, Madison has retained its Air America station due to popular demand:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/25/business/media/25air.html?ref=business

WXXM-FM, a station in Madison, Wis., owned by Clear Channel Communications, rescinded a decision to drop the liberal network in favor of Fox Sports Radio. The station, known as “the Mic” 92.1, was preparing to switch to a local sports format on Jan. 1. But last Friday, in a surprise statement, the station manager, Jeff Tyler, announced that the station had decided to continue with the progressive talk format of Air America into 2007.

A news release made it clear that public outcry was very directly responsible for the reversal: "We are overwhelmed by the recent outpouring of support for our Progressive Talk format from the public, some of our community leaders and some dedicated local advertisers.”

Soon after the initial announcement to drop Air America was made on Nov. 7, a 28-year-old-student, Valerie Walasek, began an an online petition campaign that gathered more than 5,000 signatures and also organized a large rally. She said she was shocked at the outcome.

“I’m still trying to get used to the idea of it, that it actually worked, that I got big business to change their mind,” she said.


It is a vacation time for the hosts — expect to hear new programming next week (on 1/2 or after).
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 12:53 PM
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18. They have a letter of intent from an investor group. What's the name
of this group?
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eagler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 10:41 AM
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12. If we would have had a FAIRNESS DOCTRINE
Edited on Tue Dec-26-06 10:45 AM by eagler
this would have never happened. I still believe the airwaves belong to the people and the people have a right to hear opposing points of view. There is not one issue more important to achieving this than the introduction of a new improved Fairness Doctrine!
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 10:54 AM
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14. I think the fairness doctrine is inconsistent with the 1st amendment.
Telling a citizen or company what opinions are allowable is not acceptable to me.
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eagler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 11:31 AM
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15. That's exactly why we need the Fairness Doctrine reinstated.
It was the law of the land for over 40 years. It allowed the people ( who own the airwaves)to hear all viewpoints on important issues of the day (over THEIR AIRWAVES) . It denied NO ONE freedom of speech but rather made broadcasters accountable for their statements and it provided competition for those who would try to control the media. Today we have just the opposite over the airwaves (which belong to the people). A small number of huge conglomerates have become nothing more the right wing propagandists. The absence of the FAIRNESS DOCTRINE is a denial of the freedom of speech because if you oppose anything being broadcast,you cannot start up another radio station to broadcast another opinion. It's not like freedom of the press where I can print an opposing viewpoint in my own paper.The BOTTOM LINE is that since the Reagan administration's abrogation of The Fairness Doctrine in 1987, the airwaves over most of the US have become nothing more than a vehicle of government propaganda. The Fairness Doctrine would not HUSH RUSH but it would force him to be accountible for his statements and it would allow Americans to have equal access to opposing view points. To oppose the FD is to favor a violation of the people's right to hear diverse opinions over their own airwaves. That in my opinion is a violation of the freedom of speech and a violation of the UN charter which the US signed. It guaranteed everyone's right to have access to the media- unrestricted. The public airwaves belong to the people. There is a reason for this. Democracy depends entirely on a well informed electorate. Without that we have nothing.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 12:48 PM
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17. Great points!
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eagler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 12:57 PM
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19. UN declaration on Human Rights 1948
Article 19.
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.


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jbonkowski Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 12:41 PM
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16. The airwaves are considered a public resource
Companies only lease "space" on the public frequencies so they can broadcast. When they sign the lease, they become subject to the terms of the lease. It used to be that "for the public good", broadcasters were required to maintain a balance to the content. Print and cable/sat are exempt, because they aren't considered to be using a resource shared by the public.

Because they are using a public resource, restrictions are valid, even to the 1st amendment. None of the amendments are meant to be absolute. There are always cases where they will not apply.

Plus, no one is being told an opinion is unacceptable, just what can be said using a resource owned by everyone.

Oh yeah, and companies don't deserve the same freedoms as individuals. They just aren't the same.

jim
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