Key Dem Committees Hiring LAWYER-INVESTIGATORS To Probe Bush Admin

[kpete]

Democrats Hiring Up for Investigations

Evidence continues to mount that the new Democratic majority plans to investigate the war, energy policy, and other Bush policies, as key committees have begun hiring lawyer-investigators whose job will be to probe the administration. In the House, for example, the Appropriations Committee under Rep. John Murtha's direction is hiring investigators who will be charged with looking into the administration's war policies and spending in Iraq and Afghanistan. Also, Rep. Henry Waxman, the incoming chairman of the House Government Reform Committee who's been dogging the vice president's energy task force, is also hiring lawyers. A Democratic leadership official said that the planned hearings and investigations into the war and other issues the lawyer-investigators are being hired to look into will be "very focused." In the Senate, officials said similar hirings were underway in a speeded up effort to have people in place for the start of the new Congress, especially the planned early January hearings into the war and military spending that are set to begin January 8.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/washingtonwhispers/061221/democrats_hiring_up_for_invest.htm

[demnan]

1. If you're a liberal lawyer

there's no reason to be unemployed in D.C. now. Long may they work till we rout these bastards.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

89. Maybe I should try to get a job up there

I have the J.D. but not the license. Worked in the legal system my whole life.
Bet I could get a job that would keep me buried in paper for a loooooooong time.

Third-generation Democrat, dad voted for Norman Thomas, dad was a union organizer/pipefitter before he was a lawyer. Grandma voted for Roosevelt, grew up in a law office. I think my liberal credentials are good too.

[lmarcotty]

93. I'd do it pro bono -

if they'd take me!

L-A

[Hubert Flottz]

2. Happy New Year George!

[Double T]

3. The shredders must be working overtime at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue

[leveymg]

5. Shread that document - go to jail.

Delete that e-mail - go to jail.
Ignore that subpoena - go to jail.
Lie to investigators - go to jail.
Lie on the stand - go to jail.
Claim Executive Priviledge - go to jail, after your appeal.
Get pardoned - you can't claim the Fifth after a pardon, you must testify.
Refuse to testify - go to jail.

That means you, Mr. Cheney.
That means you, too, Mr. Bush.

Merry Fitzmas.

[Joe Chi Minh]

14. Worth repeating, whenever fear of shredders is mentioned.

[annabanana]

15. Sounds sweet to me... dulcet tones indeed. . . n/t

[fooie]

42. He'll shred anyway

The president will assert a constitutional authority of the executive branch to shred anything he wants.

[wryter2000]

52. Welcome to DU

What a great time to join us. Help yourself to some :popcorn: and :beer:

:hi:

[conscious evolution]

61. Too late for shredding!

A few members of Congress already have warehouses and servers full of evidence.Stuff that without a doubt will expose bushco for what criminals they are.Some friendly prosecutors,assisted by whistle blowers have already been hard at work gathering evidence.All thats left is to present it to the people.
My recommendation is to buy stock in TiVo.


Edited to add:
Check out these journals.They are long but have some very interesting stuff in them.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/CorpGovActivist
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/IdesOfOctober

Start at the beginning and follow the links they provide.

[rodeodance]

7. they must be smoking by now.

[babylonsister]

4. Delicious! Recommend!! nt

[rpgamerd00d]

6. "whose job will be to probe the administration." heh, he said "probe".

Sorry, had to chuckle there.

:rofl:

[Botany]

8. Santa is a liberal too!

He is making a list
checking twice
gonna find out
who was naughty or nice

Subpoena - Claus is coming to
D.C. town.

[The Stranger]

9. Take no prisoners.

Vanquish the criminals.

[nam78_two]

10. k&R.nt

[autorank]

11. Hi K&R

:yourock: :hug:

[Independent_Liberal]

26. It's all falling into place.

I can't believe my eyes! Cheers autorank!

:toast:

[graywarrior]

12. Probe and squirm. Great visual.

[Quantess]

92. I get a visual of peeking inside a closet and seeing all the rats scurry into hiding.

BTW, the GOP should claim "rats" as their own mascot.

[dwp6577]

13. back on the table?

Certainly these investigations will expose the BFEE for the criminals they are. If/when this happens, impeachment has to be put back on the table!!

The wheel of Karma will be a bitch for George, Dick, Condi, Rummy, Alberto, George41, Barbara (don't know why but I'd love to see her whimpering behind bars...maybe it was her Katrina remark), etc...

[wryter2000]

53. Welcome to DU

You betcha it'll be back on the table. When every taxpayer is calling for them to get out of town and the R's realize they have to toss him under the bus to save their own hides, watch the fur fly!

Is that enough mixed metaphors for you? :hi:

[GenDem]

16. Let the housecleaning begin! K & R

[Cleita]

17. If the Repugs start complaining about the money spent, let's

be sure that we throw a few things back in their faces starting with the Ken Starr investigation of the Clenis.

[diane in sf]

69. What I find especially enlightening

is that they spent many more times as much money (aprox $70m versus $11m) trying to find dirt on the Clenis as they did on pretending/trying to find out who was responsible for 9-11.

edited for spelling

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. Shh don't tell anyone but this is how

the Special Committee on Watergate started too... in many committees and lawyers hired

As I recall my history, one Hillary Rotham was hired to serve for one of the committes

[H2O Man]

19. That is right.

Their ride is about to begin.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. What is sad is that I wasn't old enough or

at the time to care, or for that matter understand English

A professor in College took us down the drama of the whole thing...

I guess I learned

Now watch for Special Orders for the true fun to begin. Once they have any on this, the movement towards the I word will start there.

[bobbolink]

23. I was glued to the TV, watching those hearings. I"ll never forget John Dean

with his beautiful wife behind him.

I can't remember the words, but I was so struck by the whole thing.

That's why I can't be one to brush off impeachment now. Where would we be if we hadn't had the temerity to go ahead with it then?

Conversely, where would we be if we had gone ahead with Iran/Contra impeachment hearings?

It's time.

[H2O Man]

24. It's time.

Things are moving ahead, despite all of the resistance.

[nadinbrzezinski]

25. Yes they are

and this is EXACTLY how impeachment, which is primarily a political act, supposed to work. It is also rather organic

As to Iran Contra... yep poppy should have ended up in Jail... reagan, I'm not that sure... he already Alzheimers

[bobbolink]

28. Whether a criminal has Alzheimers or not doesn't affect being

charged with a crime.

It took place on his watch, he was responsible, and should be held accountable.

Whether there were impeachable offenses that could be charged and proved is a whole other conversation.

Dems need to back away from being the party of "soft on crime"

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. The reason why I am writing this

is far more sinister.

They used him, but he was truly not knowledgable of what was going on.

The only way he could have stood trial is if he was capable of understandng the charges against him... this is the legal standard. I suspect that by 1988 he wasn't... why the Handlers kept him away from the press

[bobbolink]

32. Which is why I would have *loved* for there to be charges against him!

The truth of his condition needed to be told!

Yes, it would have thrown the country into a temporary tizzy, but.... look what might have been avoided down the line, if the truth was outted.

Either way, it would have been beneficial to the country.

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. Well we needed to invoke the 25th on reagan

that is for sure.

But we needed to impeach the whole BFEE cabal, and if we had... you and I would not be having this conversation.

Hmmm... alternate history sci fi.. problem is nobody will publish it today

[bobbolink]

35. "you and I would not be having this conversation"

Which is why I'm not willing to sit down and shut up this time around.

I think Al Gore has shown how to get citizens edumakated about an issue, and fired up to take action.

Circumventing the corporatemedia.



OK, you're right... I'm a cockeyed idealist. :rofl:

[nadinbrzezinski]

36. No you are not

As I said, I think that we MAY see impeachment. We saw the first steps...but for the moment it is still in the MAY.

As things develop that qualifier will change. I also expect the anger we saw on NOv 7th to get ugly if nothing is done

[Greeby]

38. They considered that

In 1987, when the incoming WH Chief of Staff Howard Baker was coming in, Don Regan told him Reagan was out of it and that he should prepare to use the 25th amendment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/25th_Amendment#Considered_applications_of_the_Amendment

[Jim Sagle]

62. That's because we're living it.

[bobbolink]

73. I can't find it now, but wanted to thank you or whoever posted that wikipedia link

I don't know if I really didn't realize that was going on, or have already forgotten, but reading that entry on Reagan and the 25th was quite interesting to me.

So, thanx for bringing this up!! So much to learn, so little brain left.... :hi:

[DoYouEverWonder]

39. If Reagan wasn't competent to stand trial by 1988

then he wasn't competent to be President and should have been removed from office on that basis alone.

[The Wizard]

50. Reagan was only a ribbon cutter

after the shooting. George Herbert Walker Bush was running the government after Hinkley's attempt. In essence, G.H.W. Bush was a five term pResident: Reagan's two, his one and Junior's two.

[DoYouEverWonder]

60. Neither here nor there

Reagan was still THE PRESIDENT.

[nadinbrzezinski]

64. Nominally yes

in reality no... when all that is finally declasified though we will be either too old to care or six feet under.

That is why Junior was so fast with all clasifications after he came to power

[Independent_Liberal]

90. Do you think he was running Nixon's presidency too?

That would make seven terms for him.

[rambler_american]

40. Watergate Hearings

I only wish Senator Sam Ervin were still around. I loved watching his bushy eyebrows rise at the sound of a lie and hearing that magnificent southern drawl "Would y'll like to take a short break to regain y'all's composure. Git a drink of water mebbe?"

At hte risk of offending O'Reilly fans, Happy Holidays to DU'ers everywhere. The true meaning of Fitzmas!

[wryter2000]

57. Yeah, but the best was

Barbara Jordan! God, she was magnificent.

[wryter2000]

56. I was watching, too

I remember when Alexander Butterfield told the world that everything that happened in the Oval Office was taped. Talk about high drama!

Thank heaven for CSPAN.

[hobbit709]

41. But which of the current crop of congresscritters

will take the place of Barbara Jordan and Senator Sam?

[wryter2000]

58. Appearing as Barbara Jordan will be

John Conyers.

Senator Sam, I dunno. I'd say Leahy, but the delivery would be completely different.

Remember "I'm just a po' country lawyah"?

[Independent_Liberal]

86. I think Conyers=Peter Rodino.

I think they should set up a Special Select Committee in the Senate modeled after the Watergate Committee and Ted Kennedy should chair it.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

88. Don't forget Charlie Rangel

Charlie Rangel was head of the House Judiciary Committee, that Barbara Jordan was on when they were about to impeach Tricky Dick. He's been around forever, just like John Conyers.

I know this because in her famous speech, Barbara thanked Chairman Rangel for the appointment, which was a way of being ironic and trying to put a tiny bit of humor in a grave situation.

My partner and I put together a CD-ROM biography of Barbara Jordan's life, right after she died in 1996. We never got financing from her church for a charitable project to sell it to raise money for a community center with her name on it. At that time, the production costs for CDs were prohibitive. We got permission from the TSU archives and one of the local TV stations to use the footage.

We should redo it in DVD if there was a market and a demand for it. One thing I learned was: Never approach a minister with a financial deal even if it is for a good cause. They want ALL the money.

[PADemD]

45. What are Special Orders?

[nadinbrzezinski]

65. At the end of the worknig day somethimes they

keep going on issues of their own. We have had them regularly for the 9th, on tuesdays and Thursdays for the Iraq War

[wryter2000]

55. Yup, yup, and yup

This is going to be much bigger because the crimes are bigger.

The Dems are giving me the best Christmahannahkwanzaaka ever.

[omega minimo]

21. ... and the Hill carpenters build a new leaf for the table.......

:kick: :thumbsup:

[Theduckno2]

22. This can be such a hopeful season for me.

The days have started getting longer (here in the Northern Hemisphere), Christmas with family and friends, knowing the first of my seed catalogs will start arriving just after Xmas and added to that, the knowledge that lawyer/investigators are being hired in D.C..

Hopeful indeed.

Marvelous sentiment, Hubert Flotz #2.

Happy New Year George!

K&R

[illinoisprogressive]

27. What a great christmas message for us!

thanks for this. It makes my whole day. this is wonderful.

[WritersBlock]

29. EXCELLENT. Wonder what the BoyKing and his masters will come up with to distract attention, though

Because these bastards won't go down without a fight. They have proven time and time again that they don't care about anything except lining their own corrupt pockets. And I do mean anything.

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. The USS Stenis is sailing

and four more carriers are on alert.

I think you can complete that picture... we've seen it before by the way...

Oh and they have started with security council and sanctions.

[bobbolink]

34. Merry Christmas from PNAC

:cry:

[DemReadingDU]

37. morning kick

[fooie]

43. The rape of California

The Bush administration's complicity in Enron's rape of California in 2000 must be fully investigated. The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission did NOTHING as Enron and others deliberately manipulated the west coast energy markets, intentionally shutting down power plants during peak demand to create artificial shortages and drive up energy prices. Bush's close relationship to Ken Lay was likely the basis for FERC's failure to do its job.

[bobbolink]

47. Welcome to DU, fooie!

:toast:

I agree with you completely about Enron.

The citizens of this nation NEED to know all the shenanigans, and understand what has been happening, so they can at least have the opportunity to put on the brakes.

If they learn the info and then decide to go back to sleep, well, ....then we know we're done for.

[fooie]

71. Re: Welcome to DU

Thanks, I've been around a while but rarely posted. I did a lot of debating on the Yahoo boards, but it got so trashy Yahoo shut them down. It got hard to find a worthy Republican who was willing to debate.

[YvonneCa]

63. Yep...

...long overlooked.

[Independent_Liberal]

91. All roads lead back to Enron!

If there's one company on this planet that pisses me off more than any other, it's them. ENRON!

That's right! I blame everything on Enron!

:grr:

[yojon]

44. So lemme see if I have this straight..

Impeachment is off the table. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid don't want to be seen as vindictive... but.. there are going to be lots of investigations and it is possible that the weight of the evidence will be so strong that Pelosi and Reid will be "forced" to put it back on the table. Is that the way it is supposed to play out?

Forgive me, Im a little slow on the uptake :-)

[fooie]

46. impeachmnet

Impeachment or no impeachment, exposing corruption and incompetence in the opposition party is usually a winner, but certainly if high crimes happen to be disclosed, they have little choice but to introduce a bill of impeachment. perhaps the Democrats could pick up brownie points by being magnanimous and stopping it in committee.

[bobbolink]

48. Why, pray tell, would they "stop it in committee"?

Isn't the Constitution worth something?

[fooie]

68. impeachment?

I'm not sure the American people would support impeachment. It might be seen as merely a partisan payback for Clinton's impeachment. Personally, I would like nothing better than to see him impeached, removed from office, and tried for war crimes.

[bobbolink]

70. Please, do me (and you) a favor... search for H2OMan's thread

on impeachment, and have yourself a read.

I'm so pooped I can hardly type, (and I'm snowblinded) or I would look it up for you...

It is worth reading. He's a deep thinker. :)

Then, cogitate upon it, and then....after a deep breath (because his posts can leave you gasping..) come back and let me know what you think.

I hope you will do that.

Again, welcome to DU! :bounce:

[bobbolink]

72. aw...crud-a-rama.... I don't know if you have search available...

I see you have a star, but I don't know if you have to have a certain post count before you can use search.

Let me know...

And, if you could, dial down the sunshine here a bit for me, 'k?

IT'S SO FRICKIN' BRIGHT ON THE SNOW!!

Ok, now I feel better. ~~gigglesnort~~

[fooie]

74. star, searching

I think a star signifies a contributing member. I do have the search option.

[fooie]

79. H2Oman thread

I'm having no luck finding it.

[bobbolink]

80. I'm sorry, fooie....I should have just waited...my eyes have finally stopped

with the black spots and such, so I was able to locate it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2659066

H2OMan is one of our cherished scholars, and I think you will find this of interest. If you have time, of course, the comments after also add more. If I remember correctly, he later put forth his idea of going after Cheyney. I would also suggest bookmarking it. As is usual with the Waterman, there is much to chew on in this, and it may bear subsequent readings. :)

Again, I'm sorry to send you on a wild-goose chase....my eyes were just a mess. Danged sun! ^_^

Let me know what you think....

And, thanks for your openness!

CHIRP! :hi:

[fooie]

84. Thanks!

<eom>

[conscious evolution]

82. I agree

Fooie you should also read Octafish's stuff.Absolutely amazing what he digs up.
Also,read the journals linked to in my earlier reply.Some of the stuff they cover concerns Enron and the shenanigans that happened in regard to that whole fiasco.

[nadinbrzezinski]

76. Read on Watergate

by the time he resigned, the pitches and forks were ready. He also swept for a second term less than two years before

It depends on what is uncovered and how much attention people pay to this and how much coverage is given.

But enough outrage adn the people will demand it

[nadinbrzezinski]

77. Oh and welcoem to Du

[The Wizard]

51. Impeachment would be mild

compared to the Italian/Mussolini solution.

[Time for change]

49. I think that's right on target

:)

[wryter2000]

59. That's the way I read it n/t

n/t

[stubtoe]

54. Yay! At last, a move towards justice for the country.

It's beginning to feel a little like Fitzmas, once again.

[disndat]

66. "no futuro"

Boy, did Jeb get that right! He is supposed to be the smart one in that family. He probably knew that by the time the Democrats finish the investigations, the Bush name will be trash, forever and a day!
Do I hear the Hallelujah Chorus in the background? Just in time for Xmas, or should I say, Fitzmas?

[Jack Rabbit]

67. !!

:popcorn:

[Donovan61]

75. 'Tis the season

to let the subpoenas fall like snowflakes in a Montana blizzard.

[nadinbrzezinski]

78. Welcome to DU

[bobbolink]

81. Welcome to DU, Donovan61!

:toast:

I like the blizzard you suggest!! :hi:

[Generator]

83. Merry Christmas to you too!

Best thing I've seen on DU-and certainly in DU-GD for a long long time.

Nothing says seasons greetngs like lawyers in waiting. WOO HOO!

[Vanje]

85. Jail to the Chief!!!! nt

[Imagevision]

87. I suspect the Bush cabal will simply say NO to the whole thing, Dems go, Cheney yourself...