DU CNN poll: Do you agree with President Bush that the United States needs to increase the size

[liberal N proud]

Do you agree with President Bush that the United States needs to increase the size of the military?

Yes 47% 22509 votes

No 53% 24885 votes
Total: 47394 votes

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http://www.cnn.com/

[whistle]

1. Holy shit, which Americans in their right minds make up the 47%

....who want the military expanded? I suppose they are the people who believe they won't be drafted and they won't have to pay for the costs.

[brer cat]

14. It could be the families of military & national guard

who have had multiple tours of duty in Iraq. I'm sure they would like additional boots on the ground so theirs could come home. Can't say that I would blame them.

[whistle]

28. Well of course, but they don't total 47% of 305 million Americans

[blm]

2. Nonspecific poll. Expanding the overall military to strengthen it is good but doesn't

mean ADDING more troops to Iraq is the right thing to do.

Big DIFFERENCE.

[wisteria]

5. Thats it. I am beginning to think Bush is trying to blur this issue on purpose. n/t

[sarge43]

13. Yeah, there's that and

if the problems with the present army aren't fixed, like piss poor equipment, no equipment at all and back to back combat tours, why would a raw number increase do any good?

[blm]

17. I think they're intentionally blurring the two issues, as usual. And CNN is helping

as usual.

[aquart]

18. Expanding our military will NOT strengthen it.

It will further dilute the capability of our soldiers as substandard recruits are accepted in order to meet the new quotas. This is already happening.

If you want an expanded military with quality people, you have to draft. And we won't.

[blm]

20. Expanding it WITH the troops they have already stationed GLOBALLY.

This was the gist of what Kerry said in 2004 campaign back when Iraq still had a chance to be stabilized before their first election was held and the subsequent Civil War reality set in in early 2006 after their third election.

It does not mean bring in new troops, but redeploy the ones we have in nonthreatening areas to reinforce where they are actually needed most, like Afghanistan which has been regressing thanks to the WH's focus on Iraq.

[sarge43]

21. Pounding raw material into a system that's breaking down

can't solve the problem. If the career force is starting to bail and there have been reports that it is, who's going to train and lead these draftees? An effective career force isn't created overnight; it takes years.

There's one way solve this problem - stop doing what we're doing. If you can't win and can only lose, get the fuck out of the game.

[aquart]

41. There was a report of a training unit being deployed to Iraq.

Leaving no one behind to do the specialized training they were known for. It was a while ago, so I don't have a link or details. I just remember being appalled.

[sarge43]

42. Doesn't surprise me.

The starving body is starting to devour itself.

[aquart]

43. That's exactly the right description.

[Rex]

35. The GOPers are running out of time.

I guess they finally see what a tremendous fuckup it was to send 135,000 troops to Iraq! It didn't work in Vietnam and it dam will never work on any country with over 20 million people. You can't watch them all with a pittance of troops.

They don't know what to do, Rummy fucked up the 'war' so bad that none of them know how to fix it.

Withdraw? Not as long as THEY are safe from harm.

[sandnsea]

24. They're blurring the two again

They're back to confusing people over when they're talking about the 'war on terror' and when they're talking about Iraq. They're taking some good advice about new kinds of strike forces and more troops for that sort of thing - and using it to cover the increased troops in Iraq. If they get their 'more troops', I guarantee it'll just be more in Iraq and none of the real 'war on terror' recommendations. These are the biggest bunch of bastards since the Nazis, they really are.

[blm]

30. Imagine if Goebbels had a CNN and MSNBC working for him back then.

.

[Nite Owl]

3. Done

Do you agree with President Bush that the United States needs to increase the size of the military?

Yes 47% 22509 votes

No 53% 24885 votes
Total: 47394 votes



Any bets on those that want a bigger military are the very ones that are too busy to join up and would never send their own sons and daughters?

Who is going to ask * if this means Barbara and Jenna are enlisting?

[liberal N proud]

6. They come after my kids, I will be asking

I would make a public statement asking where Babs and Jenna are serving if my kids have to go.

[damntexdem]

4. As they say:

'size isn't everything.'

[leftofthedial]

7. same

kick

[Norquist Nemesis]

8. Recall 2004 when they were skewering Kerry for his votes

to cut the military. Nary a word that the votes they were referencing were based on recommendations from the Secretary of Defense Cheney. :argh:

Fuck him! Bush and Cheney have fucked this country so far in future it's going to be three generations before we have our head above water! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

[biscotti]

9. No 53%

[halobeam]

10. who the heck are these 25,000 people voting yes? OMG.

Yeah, I know...

Why does it still surprise me at times? Maybe I just need to eat lunch and get some protein to my brain.

[Missy M]

11. Those 25,000 should march right to their nearest recruiting office

and sign up because Bush wants to increase the size of the military for one purpose only. I can't see this being done without the draft.

[halobeam]

12. someone mentioned the "blue to green program"

and also serving to gain citizenship.. these may be ways to increase the size. Granted all three suck because all of them shouldn't be there in the first place. Ugh. (not to you, but at the situation of course)

[OhioChick]

15. These results are disturbing......

Yes 47% 27338 votes

No 53% 31326 votes
Total: 58664 votes

[Vidar]

16. done

[azmouse]

19. done

[paulk]

22. I wouldn't agree with Bush, but there are several Democrats

who have suggested this. The idea being to bring our national guard home (where it belongs). So it would be a replacement more than an expansion.

This shouldn't be about sending more troops to Iraq, although in the context of this poll it will probably be seen that way.

[sandnsea]

27. That's why they're doing it

To blur what has been said previously, when conditions on the ground weren't as bad. Take a couple of sensible ideas like bringing the guard home and creating new rapid strike forces, and blur it with an increase of troops in Iraq. They're experts at this kind of fuzzing of policy. The fact that it makes Democrats look wishy-washy when they have to say 'this isn't what I meant', and take crap from the left at the same time, well all the better.

[paulk]

31. yeah, you're right

and what really pisses me off the most is how easily the left falls into the trap.

[sandnsea]

34. I agree

Walking that fine path between rational self defense and reactionaries on all sides, not easy, and equally annoying.

[yurbud]

23. 54 no 46 yes--keep going

[robertpaulsen]

25. voted, 54% no

Yes 46%

29637 votes

No 54%

34576 votes

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

26. It's probably being freeped by the Pentagon and "defense" industry.

[whistle]

29. Just how many polls is CNN doing? As many as it takes to get the

...numbers up?

<snip>
CNN Poll: Only 11% Back Call to Send More Troops to Iraq

By E&P Staff

Published: December 18, 2006 9:55 PM ET

NEW YORK President Bush, according to reports, is strongly considering sending a "surge" of troops to Iraq in the new year -- 20,000 or more. Sen. John McCain and Sen. Joe Lieberman have already backed such a plan. But a new poll for CNN released Monday found that this idea draws the support of only 11 percent of Americans.

Fewer than a third of Americans still support the war in Iraq, and more than half say they want U.S. troops out of the country within a year, according to the CNN poll. This 31 percent support marked a new low in the Opinion Research survey.

"Nearly three-quarters said Bush administration policy needs a complete overhaul or major changes. But only 11 percent of those polled backed calls to send more American troops to Iraq, as President Bush is said to be considering," CNN said.

Pollsters interviewed 1,019 adults for the survey, which had a sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Only 32 percent said they would support keeping U.S. troops in Iraq "as long as necessary" to hand over control to a new Iraqi government. By comparison, 21 percent said they wanted to see Americans leave immediately, and 33 percent said they wanted to see a U.S. withdrawal within a year.

http://editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003523154&imw=Y

These surveys are totally bogus!!!

[lpbk2713]

32. At this point, how could anyone in their right mind agree with any ideas this psycho has?

(I think I just answered my own question.)



There's always his 20% psycho base.

[Kerrytravelers]

33. DUne.

Do you agree with President Bush that the United States needs to increase the size of the military?

Yes 46% 37895 votes

No 54% 45031 votes
Total: 82926 votes

[Booster]

36. Done with pleasure.

[in_cog_ni_to]

37. 45% tes 55% NO

Do you agree with President Bush that the United States needs to increase the size of the military?

Yes 45% 51281 votes

No 55% 61849 votes
Total: 113130 votes

[KansDem]

38. "Yes" --45% | "No" --55% (eom)

[stillcool]

39. grrrrrrr....

Do you agree with President Bush that the United States needs to increase the size of the military?
Yes 45% 52344 votes


No 55% 63248 votes

[Overseas]

40. So 45% aren't bothered by the war profiteering that's been rampant...!

Billions are being stolen from us-- let's make it bigger !!