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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 06:22 PM
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CNN Poll: Do you believe that Swift, and companies like it, conspire to keep wages down...
Do you believe that Swift, and companies like it, conspire to keep wages down for American workers by hiring illegal aliens?

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 06:27 PM
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1. Yes at 96%
Not surprising.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 06:29 PM
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2. Duh!.. Of COURSE they do
If you are an employer you look for ways to KEEP as much money for YOURSELF as possible.

The easiest way is to pay your employees less..
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 06:30 PM
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3. Yes is way ahead
Yes 96% 693 votes

No 4% 26 votes
Total: 719 votes



What I don't get is why people think unions are 'bad'! When is the trusting the corporations going to stop, is there no connection.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 06:30 PM
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4. enod Y-96 N-4 Voted-719
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 06:58 PM
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5. It'll be Proved in Court
Swift sued over hiring

Eighteen former Swift & Co. employees who worked at the meatpacker's Cactus, Texas, plant have filed a $23 million lawsuit alleging that Swift hired illegal workers to depress employee wages.

The suit, filed Friday in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas, claims Swift engaged in "racketeering activity" by "establishing a pattern of practice over several years and looking the other way" when illegal immigrants presented what the company should have known were falsified documents and phony stories, said Angel Reyes, a Texas lawyer who represents the former Swift employees.

Swift quietly replaced the 18 former employees - all of Mexican descent and legal residents or U.S. citizens - with illegal immigrants from Central and South American countries, Reyes said. Swift had paid the former legal workers approximately $20 an hour but paid $12 to $13 an hour to their replacements, he added.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 07:05 PM
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6. I believe they actually employ "illegals" so as to avoid high
workers comp. claims & premiums.

Injured "illegals" do not report their injuries. Disabled "illegal" workers don't claims SSI...they go home.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 07:20 PM
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7. I believe that when an illegal gets injured, the company reports them as illegal
Then we the tax payer pays for the care and transport of the illegal back to Mexico
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 07:33 PM
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9. Nope, they don't. The company ignores it and doesn't report them--
otherwise they'd be turning themselves in.
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justice1 Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 08:06 PM
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10. You're both right to an extent.
In jobs like construction, workers are considered self-employed, so when they are injured they get treatment without it being at the business owners expense. I'm not sure if it's our state law or if it falls under federal law, but if an illegal alien has a serious injury, and their home doesn't have adequate care available, they become our responsibility. There was a local case involving a roofer that fell ending up in the hospital for 3 months. He couldn't be deported because of the risk to his life, had he returned home.

In meat-packing they are known to pressure employees to use their medical staff even if they have their own physician. Former employees have said that they were permanently disabled due to the lack of proper medical treatment, and then let go by the company.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 07:22 PM
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8. 98% hell yeah! n/t
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