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[Jimbo S]

Half paying attention to "Meet The Press" yesterday. One pundit said Obama is good Presidential material because he is not a product of the 60's. The boomers started off fighting amongst themselves over Vietnam and now it's Iraq. Obama can put it all behind and move on. He would be a true "uniter".

So, has there really been an intra-generational war going on these last 40 years?

[maxsolomon]

1. obama is too a boomer

i'm technically a boomer, and i was born in 63.

product of the 60s! he bears the collective guilt of every mistake the counterculture made up till the start of disco. :sarcasm:

[leftofthedial]

8. INCLUDING the start of disco!

[BOSSHOG]

2. I believe there was some conflict

between the WWII generation and baby boomers, since we baby boomers were all about drugs and sex and decadence and more sex and more drugs. Funny since we were warring with out parents. Things changed incredibly in the early and mid 60's from Ozzie and Harriet to Ozzie Osborne, culture shock across the board for the older folk. I don't see that happening too much now, since today's 50 is actually 30ish. I'm 52 and still crank up the Stones. When my dad was 52 I thought he was ancient.

The only war I'm currently concerned about is my Hogs and your Badgers. The rock em sock em bowl game of the year. No doubt the reddest bowl game of 2007!!! Good luck and Go HOGS!

[Monkeyman]

3. Dam Boss your younger then Me Yeeek

[BOSSHOG]

4. Or I'm lying

Nah. Born in 54, class of 72, proud mid member of the baby boomer generation. My Dad was an old Salt and my older brother was born six months after Mom and Dad were married. Oh the horrors of it all.

[Jimbo S]

7. Should be one of the better bowl games.

Hope I'm not too strung out when the game starts. I'm a casual football fan. If they win, cool. Though a win could get them in the top five along with the basketball team. Nice to see a fresh face (Arkansas) for a change. Who'll get to wear their red shirts?

[Warpy]

11. I remember my pop smugly remarking that all his Sinatra records

represented music that stood the test of time and that everything I was listening to would be forgotten in a year or two. I opined that each generation keeps the music of its youth alive and reminded him that you could still get Rudy Vallee records when Sinatra came on the scene. He growled and walked away.

I never did throw that one back in his face, but I didn't have to bother.

Funny, I see concert crowds now and those old 60s and 70s bands draw crowds across the generations since. The kids look like they want to be there (we had to get dragged to concerts our parents liked) and often don't have an old boomer in tow.

The old folks are going now, but the war against the boomers is still going strong. Most of the changes we were able to accomplish were long overdue, but social change is pure hell on a lot of old folks.

If the country's lucky, we'll be able to shake things up some more before we go.

[Sequoia]

22. For Christmas one year I bought my mom a Sinatra tape

and she said as a child her dad wouldn't let them listen to him because his music was not for young teens (or anyone). Ha, ha...good lord.

[Capn Sunshine]

13. I crank up the Stones too, but I've got news for you Boss

In fact, the last three albums I bought were Beggar's Banquet, Let it Bleed, and Between the Buttons.

But dude, your kid/the kids still think you're ancient.
60's Rock to them sounds like Glenn Miller did to us.

[madokie]

17. you didn't really type all that now did you

i'm an old bastard with two stepsons and all their friends are like they are, love our music of the '60s and '70s more than we did when it was happening. :shrug:

[maxsolomon]

20. i beg to differ

these are the artists we share with our 18 year old college freshman, and have since she became interested in music when Kurt Cobain died (that was big in Seattle):

beatles
nick drake
hendrix
velvets
elliot smith
pixies
sigur ros

there is no generation gap to speak of in our house. we do get bagged on for rinky-dink sounding 80s hits, tho.

[rebel with a cause]

14. I'm an older boomer, at least I get credit for being one

Sixty one today, and I was never into the drugs and free sex. I fought with my father (mother died young) and others about as far as religion, politics, civil rights, and wars in foreign countries. In fact, my father was so religious I fought with him about my right to wear slacks and go bare footed. And I did go bare footed for two years!

I fought with the WWII generation over Johnson/Nixon/Vietnam and I fought with the generation E's over bush/Iraq. I don't see the culture shock among our generation too much because we were the ones that argued that you should be open to new experiences, but my sister who is a few years older than I am suffers from it quite a bit. But there is one thing that I must stress about all of us, our bodies get old, my minds do not. I still have to remind myself sometimes that I am no long that young woman who wore bell bottoms dragging the ground often hiding my bare feet. :hippie:

[madokie]

18. I tried a pair of my old bell bottoms on a while back and I couldn't believe

we actually wore them and didn't trip over them either. My how time has changed but but not me ;-). it was vet, hippie, old vet, old hippie in that order. I about forgot, old fart now.

[rebel with a cause]

23. Had to go answer the phone,

My sister called to wish me a happy birthday. Wow, you still have your bell bottoms? Double wow, you can still fit into them? No way I could manage that.

I do still have my hippie wedding dress, and no I couldn't fit into it either. My journey was hippie, wife and mother, divorced mother, old hippie but still a mother only with adult children. I would say that I also am an old fart, but I'm too much a lady. ;)

[Johnny Noshoes]

15. Well BOSS..

we're the same age but in my case its cranking up the Charlie Parker - different strokes and all. I think all these positive WW2 movies by Spielberg and Hanks etc are our generation's way of trying to say sorry for some of what we said and did to our parents in the 60's. Yeah I don't feel "old" at 52 either :)

Jesus is coming. Look busy!

[Botany]

5. Pay no attention to pundit "blow hard"

When this country was formed there was debate between the "Royalists" and
those for separation, @ Lincoln's time it was slavery, Teddy R. times had the
monopoly busting factions and the free market people, when F.D.R. worked to
get us out of the great depression people in this country were split on what
to do then, and so on.

[seabeyond]

6. i am at the end of boomer scale. obama is a year older than i n/t

[Journeyman]

9. And let's see -- the "Greatest Generation" started out. . .

arguing over whether or not they'd get involved in World War 2, hotly debated tactics and purposes throughout the War, found themselves embroiled in one of the nation's most divisive conflicts on the Korean peninsula, and sowed the seeds of their childrens' enmity when they embroiled themselves in destructive arguments about dominoes in the Far East.

From that generation, the nation found Kennedy, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, and the first Bush.

I guess my point is, there's never been a time when this nation hasn't been fighting among itself and each struggling generation brings forth both the good and the bad, and since there's never a clear cut definition between ages, the Boomers have had a hand in many of the Greatest Generation's triumphs and despairs.

[Sequoia]

10. I see no hope for the future of our people

if they are dependent on the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words.

When I was a boy, we were taught to be discrete and respectful of
elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise and impatient of
restraint.
--- Hesiod, Eighth Century B.C.


Same ole, same ole if you ask me.

[etherealtruth]

12. Touche` (n/t)

[rebel with a cause]

24. You got me!

I started to defend some of the young people of today, until I caught on to what you were doing. :rofl:

[librechik]

16. yes, the great Stoner vs Snortmonkey Wars, otherwise known as the Coke Wars

(With a few obvious exceptions) the coke addicted yuppie scumbags of the boomer generation broke off in the late seventies to make money and support their habits. They mostly became smug Republican scumbags until last month. The rest of us were satisfied with a little herb and stoneground living, and lived in our cocoons until last month.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

19. No war that I know of

I get along with most folks my age-I'm 56-we share a common memory of the '60s. Interesting, to me at least, that the idealism we had back then is still alive. Interesting, also, that so many people assume the '60s was only about sex, drugs, and rock and roll. To me it was about starting my spiritual path, idealism, and rock and roll!

[annabanana]

21. That's a stupid pundit...

Pre-boomers are pissed because they got pushed off the stage so hard.

Post-boomers are pissed because they missed that "after the pill, before herpes" sweetspot.

[BlackVelvet04]

25. If there is an intra-generational war....

I missed it.

[Jimbo S]

26. intra-generational war = war within a generation

Was there in-fighting amongst those who came of age in the 60's (hawk vs. dove), and have those factions been fighting since? Obama is a boomer, but did grow up during the sixties, as myself.