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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:07 AM
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Navy vet held by U.S. in Iraq for months for passing information to the FBI
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/world/4409150.html

One night in mid-April, the steel door clanked shut on detainee No.200343 at Camp Cropper, the U.S. military's maximum-security detention site in Baghdad, Iraq.

American guards arrived at the man's cell periodically over the next several days, shackled his hands and feet, blindfolded him and took him to a padded room for interrogation, the detainee said. After an hour or two, he was returned to his cell, fatigued but unable to sleep.

When he was released after 97 days he was exhausted, depressed and scared.

Detainee 200343 was among thousands of people who have been held and released by the American military in Iraq, and his account has provided one of the first detailed views of the Pentagon's detention operations since Abu Ghraib.

Passed information to FBI

The detainee was Donald Vance, a 29-year-old Navy veteran from Chicago who went to Iraq as a security contractor. He wound up as a whistle-blower, passing information to the FBI about suspicious activities at the Iraqi security firm where he worked, including possible illegal weapons trading.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:17 AM
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1. So this is how the US treats it's citizens; it obviously doesn't pay to
be a whistleblower. The organization he passed info to locked him up?
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:31 AM
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5. I think he was locked up by the military, not the FBI n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:36 AM
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6. I stand corrected but it seems he was locked up on advice from the FBI. nt
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:36 AM
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7. But how did the military know he was talking to the FBI?
The only logical thing is the FBI told the military so the two were working in tandem.

Don
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:20 AM
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2. Shades of Iran-Contra?
"The detainee was Donald Vance, a 29-year-old Navy veteran from Chicago who went to Iraq as a security contractor. He wound up as a whistle-blower, passing information to the FBI about suspicious activities at the Iraqi security firm where he worked, including possible illegal weapons trading."

That's pretty fucked up.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:21 AM
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3. officials did not reach Vance's contact at the FBI until...
...he had been in custody for three weeks. Even so, she said, officials determined that he "posed a threat" and decided to continue holding him."

he DID 'pose a threat', a POLITICAL threat. what a disgrace.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:24 AM
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4. Corpomedia will not cover this unless FORCED.
So no one will know, except "Times Person of the Year" the omniscient.
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Broadslidin Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:36 AM
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8. Does The U.S. Imperial Empire Deserve The Hatred It Receives......?
Could Be.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:36 AM
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9. He should have known about Sibel Edmonds case
The FBI's not too fond of whistleblowers.

When U.S. troops raided the company at his urging, Vance and another American who worked there were detained as suspects by the military, which was unaware that Vance was an informer, according to officials and military documents.

Nathan Ertel, the American held with Vance, carried away military records that shed further light on the detention camp and its secretive tribunals. Those records include a legal memorandum explicitly denying detainees the right to a lawyer at detention hearings.


If troops raided the company at Vance's urging, how could they not know he was the informer? Something doesn't smell right. And I'd love to know who signed the legal memorandum denying Americans a right to a lawyer.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:40 AM
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10. We need to commemorate these heros that stepped up during the
dark time we've had in this country these last six years. Someone needs to write a book to document these profiles in courage.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:53 AM
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11. A chilling end to his ordeal
Edited on Mon Dec-18-06 09:53 AM by YankeyMCC
I read this story today in the NYT and this paragraph near the end really chilled me:

"On his way out, Mr. Vance said: “They asked me if I was intending to write a book, would I talk to the press, would I be thinking of getting an attorney. I took it as, ‘Shut up, don’t talk about this place,’ and I kept saying, ‘No sir, I want to go home.’ ”"

on edit: link to the NYT piece: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/18/world/middleeast/18justice.html?pagewanted=3&ei=5094&en=75f8d6f0ce303868&hp&ex=1166504400&partner=homepage
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 11:00 AM
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12. When I hear trading I think nuclear and Cheney. Guess I've read
too much. Weapons could be anything.

Welcome to the land of justice and freedom for the wealthy and those who do their bidding.
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