To squander lives in a long [Iraq War] draw down simply puts a fig leaf over defeat is unsustainable

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Bush ready to send more troops to Iraq
By Toby Harnden in Washington
Last Updated: 1:42am GMT 16/12/2006

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Mr Bush is debating with his aides and outside advisors how many extra troops there should be and for what period. His options range from a temporary "surge" of 20,000 troops to a "big push" involving more than 50,000.

A version of the "big push" plan – also known as the "double-down gamble" option – is supported by Senator John McCain, who is fast becoming the Republican establishment's choice for the 2008 presidential nomination.

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"In every successful counter-insurgency, the basis for success has always been protecting the people."

Mr Biddle said a large troop increase would entail "great sacrifice" for Americans and tough choices for Mr Bush, who might have to abandon elements of his domestic agenda, but the president appeared to be leaning towards this.

"His public statements have all been consistent with a double-down, big push, try-real-hard option to make one last try to get this right."
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[TheFarseer]

1. I agree and disagree

I think to continue what we are doing, which is not working in any way, to cover up the defeat caused by your poor planning is disgusting and unconscionable. To draw down in an orderly way with a plan to keep the country together at least as much as it is probably the least we can do for the Iraqis after we screwed up their country so much. As for the "surge" bush and others are talking about, I just don't see what good that will do.

[Karenina]

2. More population reduction.

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3. A troop surge will do no good whatsoever

[Karenina]

4. Other than contribute to the population reduction

of those on their 2nd, 3rd and 4th tours (see if THEY get wasted the top 2% won't have to worry their beautiful minds about the needs of veterans)
AND the Iraqis who, by the time the *MIC is finished decimating them, will be too traumatized to do much about the *rapist who attacked them.