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Paranoid Pessimist Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:34 AM
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Edited on Sun Dec-17-06 11:38 AM by Paranoid Pessimist
Weather Bulletin - North Dakota

Priceless. Think about this for a moment.

North Dakota News

This text is from a county emergency manager out in the western part of North Dakota state after a snowstorm.

WEATHER BULLETIN

Up here, in the Northern Plains, we just recovered from a Historic event--- may I even say a "Weather Event" of "Biblical Proportions" --- with a historic blizzard of up to 44" inches of snow and winds to 90 MPH that broke trees in half, knocked down utility poles, stranded hundreds of motorists in lethal snow banks, closed ALL roads, isolated scores of communities and cut power to 10's of thousands.

FYI:

George Bush did not come.

FEMA did nothing.

No one howled for the government.

No one blamed the government.

No one even uttered an expletive on

TV.

Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton did not visit.

Our Mayor did not blame Bush or anyone else.

Our Governor did not blame Bush or anyone else, either.

CNN, ABC, CBS, FOX or NBC did not visit - or report on this category 5 snowstorm. Nobody demanded $2,000 debit cards.

No one asked for a FEMA Trailer House.

No one looted.

Nobody - I mean Nobody demanded the government do something.

Nobody expected the government to do anything, either.

No Larry King, No Bill O'Rielly, No Oprah, No Chris Mathews and No Geraldo Rivera.

No Shaun Penn, No Barbara Striesand, No Hollywood types to be found.

Nope, we just melted the snow for water.

Sent out caravans of SUV's to pluck people out of snow engulfed cars.

The truck drivers pulled people out of snow banks and didn't ask for a penny.

Local restaurants made food and the police and fire departments delivered it to the snowbound
families.

Families took in the stranded people - total strangers.

We fired up wood stoves, broke out coal oil lanterns or Coleman lanterns.

We put on extra layers of clothes because up here it is "Work or Die".

We did not wait for some affirmative action government to get us out of a mess created by being immobilized by a welfare program that trades votes for 'sittin at home' checks.

Even though a Category "5" blizzard of this scale has never fallen this early, we know it can happen and how to deal with it ourselves.

"In my many travels, I have noticed that once one gets north of about 48 degrees North Latitude, 90% of the world's social problems evaporate."

It does seem that way, at least to me.

I hope this gets passed on.

Maybe SOME people will get the message. The world does NOT owe you a living.

*******************************************************************************

Obviously this was aimed at all those "New Orleans Negros" from Katrina who obviously should have not yelled for help. They should have organized bucket brigades to drain the toxic floodwaters out of their streets. They could have scraped the mold off the damaged buildings and used to to brew up a nutritious Louisiana gumbo to feed themselves. For water, they should have gathered up the dead bodies and built a funeral pyre and used the flame to power a giant still (for sure there were experienced bootleggers among those stranded on buildings) to make safe drinking water. The houses should have been rebuilt with the trash at hand, building codes notwithstanding. If there aren't enough tools, well, there must be some rocks around that could be used hammer nails.

And how 'bout those crybaby Tsunami survivors in Thailand, expecting the rest of the world to come to their aid. They should have had more pride. Outside help, especially from any government, is Communism and they should have done it themselves, the "real" American way. How long would it have taken them to haul the debris off the beaches and scrounge up enough stuff to build successful tourist meccas without money and with only the leftover wreckage on hand.

I'm sure none of the folks up in the "North Country" will apply for any government assistance to rebuild what their "Biblical" storm destroyed. They're way too proud and independent for that. If roads were damaged, they of course will not expect government to fix them; they'll show us all their individuality by getting out there and doing the paving themselves. Paving parties, like old fashioned 19th century barn raisings. I'm sure that if one cent of tax money comes their way in the wake of their storm they'll demonstrate their independent pride by insisting on indignantly sending it back with a card that says, "Screw you; we take care of ourselves and that makes us BETTER than you dependent wimps."

I hope whatever smug "North Country" right wing redneck who wrote the above never experience a disaster bigger than their independent neighbors can cope with, such as the one that's about to come down on us all from the hopelessly trashed environment.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:38 AM
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1. Gee, judging a disaster in a major city
by normal weather in the country.

What a bunch of smug assholes.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:38 AM
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2. I'm originally from North Dakota
Edited on Sun Dec-17-06 11:40 AM by Goblinmonger
Ask them what they did when the flood destroyed the valley in the mid-90s. Cause I will guarantee you that Clinton came out, FEMA trailers were set up, federal aid was given.

They talk the talk up there, but they take help just like everyone else. Trust me.

On edit: Forgot to mention this line "Nobody demanded the government do anything." Who the hell cleared the roads, then? Private citizens? Oh, that's right, the government did it.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 12:19 PM
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16. I Always Suspected The US Army Corps of Engineers Was Just A Citizens Militia
Grand Forks, N.D. / East Grand Forks, Minn. Flood Control, Red River of the North

http://www.mvp.usace.army.mil/fl_damage_reduct/default.asp?pageid=18

The project consists of levees and floodwall set back from the river, forming three 'rings' around both communities. In addition, stabilization of an existing dam, removal of a former railroad bridge, interior flood control features, numerous road and railroad closures, extension and expansion of an existing diversion channel and construction of new diversion channels with associated structural features are part of the proposed project. The design level of protection is equivalent to the peak discharge experienced during the 1997 flood or a 250-year flood event.

Project design and construction costs are shared between federal and non-federal (the two cities) interests. The local cost share varies from a minimum of 35 percent to a maximum of 50 percent depending on the cost of the real estate. Operation and maintenance costs are a 100-percent non-federal responsibility. For fiscal year 2006, the project received $39.6 million in federal funding. The president's budget for fiscal year 2007 provides $12 million in federal funding. This will allow project completion.

Estimated federal cost $220,900,000
Estimated non-federal cost $195,800,000
Total estimated project cost $416,700,000


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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:39 AM
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3. yeah because people clearly drown in the snow that seaps into their
houses and the snow clearly destroys homes when it sweeps them off their foundations.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:47 AM
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10. And snow contaminates drinking water
And causes trillions in "snow damage".

What a bunch of idiots.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:55 AM
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13. and broken trees are truly a tragedy. We live in those trees we are so self reliant
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:39 AM
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4. Send this back to them (and don't forget to "reply ALL"):
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:44 AM
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7. Ah, thanks for the Snopes link. I was going to look but you beat me to it
:D

I knew I had seen it a while back...
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:44 AM
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8. LOL
"One can shovel snow, but one cannot shovel water."
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 12:52 PM
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17. Yes, That Was A Pretty Good Closing
Edited on Sun Dec-17-06 12:57 PM by loindelrio
And is similar to how I addressed the subject of this e-mail to one of the Freeper Horribulus coven at the rice bowl a while back.

The tragic thing is, my workplace is involved in both flood control and managing snow emergencies. In other words, someone who should know the difference.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:49 AM
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11. OMG cool! I was falling for it!
Never thought of checking it there.

And of course there is nothing wrong with the governor making the usual pleas of governors everywhere, but damn! They talked as if they were too damn self-sufficient to even ask for what existing law entitled them to!
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 12:58 PM
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20. haha, looks like those losers DID cry to the government
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:40 AM
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5. This was actually published in my employer's newsletter.
Edited on Sun Dec-17-06 11:41 AM by dogman
Really pissed me off, especially from a company that profited from rebuilding storm damage. Pretty good rebuttal here:
http://www.snopes.com/katrina/soapbox/dakota.asp
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:41 AM
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6. If they can *tough it out* so well, let's publish a news release BASED
on THIS email (include the email address of the RW whackjob) announcing that North Dakota will no longer be on FEMA's emergency list, or any other federal list for emergency help.

And anyone who wishes to complain about that judgement should contact the freeper listed on the email.

THAT will shut his/her big fat piehole "right quick". :sarcasm:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:47 AM
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9. Hate to tell them, but they have such a small population up there
and no major attractions or big cities, so no one cares. It also does not make good TV - it's probably the attitude of "well, gee, you knew it would snow up there, didn't you?"

Hurricanes are more unusual than snowstorms. And occurring in a populated city means it affects more people and makes it more newsworthy.

Plus the fact that FEMA would do something in a disaster. They show up when the poor people of Malibu lose their houses. I'm sure they show up for that, too.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:57 AM
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14. Not to mention no blowing newscasters, snowstorms don't deliver good footage
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Batgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:52 AM
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12. Proves only that debunked hogwash can circle around the internet forever
Seeing as how this story has long since been exposed as nothing more than another stinky cloud of wingnut bullshit.

BTW, 44 inches of snow comprises about 4.5 inches of water on average. Water that can't come into your house except for those vast, life-threatening quantities that stick to the bottom of your boots.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 12:58 PM
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21. Have you read the Eisner graphic novels about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?
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Batgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 02:08 PM
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23. sounds like quite the debunking
but I haven't read it
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 12:13 PM
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15. Tell them the 12 feet of water in parts of NO...
would be equal to 120 feet of snow, not 44 inches.

Sid
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blockhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 12:53 PM
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18. total bullshit
there is no such thing as a "category 5" blizzard. We got less than two feet of snow, not 44 inches and most of it all melted in a week or so. My power was out for a day and a half. It wasn't THAT big of a deal.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 12:56 PM
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19. for one thing, small population states like ND get more than their share in federal funds
and two, anyone who can't tell the difference between a bilzzard and a hurricane is a fucking moron
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 01:59 PM
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22. Yea , fiercely independent people
except for those farm subsidies that they feel are a birthright. I believe I read that those North Dakotans receive the lions share of subsidies.
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