I just can't get over how bad this all is

[blues90]

I know it's been 6 years but man , with all that has happened and continues to happen in the middle east and the USA I find it impossible to ignore or adjust .

How does one adjust , how can one distract themself from all this horror .

Part of the reason I post this is probably the Holidays and part is because I listened today to the lost episode on the Mike Malloy show which was on march 20 2003 and now back on the white rose archives .

To hear the bombing called shock and awe which is sick in itself and to hear it as it happened brings it all back home .

Nothing has changed , it has become worse and the death mounts up daily . I don't feel the USA will ever be trusted again and there is no way to erase the horror of it all .

Part of this country promoted this attack and should be ashamed and horrified by what they had found the proper thing to do .

I wonder just how the grand old TV news shows can live with themselves airing this and grandstanding with their flying graphics and streaming at the bottom of the screen . Why don;t they replay this footage for all to see and so it becomes ingrained in their heads so each and everyone of these war touting reporters can see just how they looked and what they said back then .

Still to this day they have all gotten away with this and many still have their tv news spot seemingly without guilt . They make me sick .

[Redbear]

1. It really is disturbing.

It is impossible to adjust. All we can do is work to make sure things change.

[Imalittleteapot]

2. I hear you blue.

I expect the talking heads to admit they screwed up and to apologize. I am amazed that people aren't protesting in the streets in front of media offices and the Whitehouse. Did you watch the 3 pigs (bush, cheney and rummy) at the rumsfeld tribute? How can they show their faces? Now, their going to send more troops and bush won't talk about "the plan" until after Christmas, while more soldiers die and get injured. AND the media will just keep pumping up the prez. They all make me sick.

Let's hope the Dems slow the warmongering, or better stop it, and that the media respect their moves and report the truth, whatever it may be.

[blues90]

7. I did see rummys sick ordeal

I can't believe this is what they come up with and it was actually filmed .

This is just more example of their complete and utter ignorence of all sense of reality . It looks like fiction to me and I had to smack myself to find it was their reality .

I don't know if things like this horror will change anytime soon , certainly not soon enough for many of us and I don't watch TV often , I try to avoid it .

Murder and the perp's live on TV and they are so proud of it all .

I'll never get over this as hard as I try including the Katrina losses and this is never talked about but still goes on .

It seems all of those who really do care have not the funds to do a thing to help and those with all the money on earth could care less .

If they are religous at all don;t they realize they can't take this with them let alone spend even a small part of it in their lifetimes . I guess this never crosses their sick minds .

[knowbody0]

3. it was as if "shock and awe" was applauded

by all these "patriotic" amerikans, with zero thought of the carnage. In Afghanistan we were fed news bits of our humanitarian warriors, my memory bank holds the vision of two very small wide eyed boys clutching a neon green packages demonstrating we were feeding the orphans, while in the background their village smoldered. the packages contained pickled potatoes! Just what every kid asks for after watching his family killed.

I conclude that most "terrorists" have been terrified like the little boys with their pickled potatoes.

clearly our nation is on a highway to hell. now they are injecting the concept that Muslems love death, but we love life. they did the same thing about the Vietnamese not valuing life like we do.

I am ashamed of the country that I leave to my grandchildren.

[bvar22]

18. Not so long ago, "Shock & Awe" was called....

Not so long ago, "Shock & Awe" was proudly called "Blitzkreig" by another group of Fascists who wanted to take land, steal resources, and creat a small ruling class of rich elites.

The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

[raccoon]

20. It certainly was applauded, by some dickheads.

Yep, as long as it´s not THEM or THEIR KIDS who are getting killed, they´re cool with all the carnage.

[leftofthedial]

4. but other than all that horrible stuff

things aren't going too bad

[jbnow]

5. There is no way to erase the horror but

in time we could be trusted again. We have never been perfect, there is a lot to be ashamed of in our past but it is the bush administration policies and actions that has earned the hatred of the world.

That he was elected again (maybe) makes us all look worse but if this congress can put some checks on his crimes and if the next administration makes real changes we can change our role in the world.
We need a wise diplomatic president who puts doing the right thing first and finding and electing that type is a challenge in itself. But if we admit and apologize for our errors and make real changes we won't be mistrusted forever.

But you are right that the horrors can't be undone. The dead stay dead, the maimed stay maimed, some amends can't be made. There is no good answer for Iraq, barring a time machine.

We need to become partners in the world again, not arrogant bullies. There have been SO many bad things done in the world and to our own country...just shocking. Turning things around won't be easy. I only hope we get leaders determined to do it.

[riverwalker]

6. well said, blue one

In particular, I hold resentment towards Paula Zahn, especially in her Sept 2002 interview with Scott Ritter. At the time, the country didn't know what to believe, was grasping for information. Instead of asking journalistic questions, she simply mocked and ridiculed Ritter for DARING to question the war.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/09/13/ritter.cnna/

"ZAHN: To hear Scott Ritter, all of the talk of war with Iraq is groundless. The former U.N. weapons inspector says Iraq poses no threat to the U.S. and military action would be a historic mistake. " <much more>

She goes on to sneer at him and actually laughed in his face. It was disgusting. I wonder how many kids enlisted after interviews like this. These people have blood on their hands, Iraqi and American. For her role, and cowardice, I dispise her.

[IndyOp]

8. Ritter now has Sy Hersh on his side. One Sy = 10,000 Zahn's. (n/t)

[riverwalker]

14. amen

But when I hear people say "oh but everyone thought thought Saddam had WMD's" I want to scream. Ritter was begging people to listen, he was trying to tell us he KNEW, without a doubt, that there were none. No one would listen.

[IndyOp]

17. I drove up to Indianapolis to hear Scott Ritter speak before the war...

His information was so detailed that I was convinced. Of course, I am convinced that governments ALWAYS lie their way into wars in the first place. Ritter's information just made clear to me that "WMDs in Iraq" was, for sure, one of the lies.

:(

[babylonsister]

9. I prefer to see the glass more than half full. We got our majority; let

the investigations begin. While it will take a long time for the U.S. to regain credibility, this is a good first step, as long as the Dems mean what they say and produce some previously unknown facts that are bound to piss off a lot of people. Then stand by. I'm hoping.

[blues90]

11. I hope so too

I don't know how this will end .
It's very difficult for me to find faith in politcians these days .

Some have said we can apologise as a start , I am not talking about anyone who posted here , I have heard this most often on radio shows as a part of pulling out of Iraq and making amends . For me , if I was an Iraqi who lost my family I don't think this would quite do it for me . I would not be one for revenge I feel i would want americans to leave me alone to try to find some sort of meaning for life and I would never want to hear the word america ever again .

[glarius]

10. As a non-American may I just say that

I believe that the good people in America, like you on this DU forum, far outnumber the war mongers you describe in your post. I believe you good people will prevail. DON'T LOSE HEART!...:loveya:

[tabasco]

13. Canadians rock !

:yourock:

[eppur_se_muova]

15. Not sure we 'far' outnumber them ... we have to 'out-effect' them.

But thanks for the neighborly encouragement.

[WiseButAngrySara]

16. Thanks for your Canadian inspiration! ....n/t

[Laura PourMeADrink]

12. Bright side...Libby soon goes to trial. nt

[treestar]

19. At least we put a majority of Democrats in Congress

So we have decided that the decider will not decide everything unchecked.