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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 04:45 PM
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Now that Kucinich is running, can I pass on a piece of advice?
Let Elizabeth do all the TV appearances, Dennis. If that doesn't win you the nomination, I don't know what will ;)

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 04:49 PM
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1. She IS a doll. . .
And to catch the heart of Dennis, she must have a heart of gold, too.

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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 04:50 PM
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2. She seems like a wonderful woman. :)
I agree.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 04:51 PM
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3. Yeah. Good things come to those who wait. And Dennis waited!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:46 PM
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16. Waited? She's his third wife.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Kucinich

Kucinich was born in Cleveland as the eldest of the seven children of Frank and Virginia Kucinich. His Croatian father was a semi-trailer truck driver; his Irish American mother, a homemaker.<1> In 1973, he graduated from Case Western Reserve University with both a BA, and an MA.<2> Kucinich is a Roman Catholic and an environmentalist. He is twice-divorced, with a daughter, Jackie, from his marriage to Sandra Lee McCarthy and married his third wife, Elizabeth Harper, a British citizen, on August 21, 2005.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 06:00 PM
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22. So for him it had to come later than sooner
He's gotta be an optimist.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:09 PM
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4. I like him and his ideas. He'd be good for the country. Too bad he
doesn't have a shot. :evilfrown:
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:14 PM
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6. Too bad people have such negativity as you do.
It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. The primaries come first friend, vote for the candidate that matches you views the most. Don't worry about electability or conventional wisdom, just vote for the candidate that you feel will best represent your position. You never know, Dennis might just get the nod then;)
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:16 PM
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7. Realistic = negative?
I think not.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:28 PM
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10. No, failing to vote for him because you don't think he can be elected is negativity.
Talk about engaging in a self fulfilling prophecy, there it is. This is the primaries, vote for the person that you feel best represents you. That's been part of our problem with politics since the sixties, now everybody has picture perfect, photogenic, and have a minty white smile. Thank god we didn't have to deal with that shit in the past, then we would have excluded some truly greats, such as Lincoln and FDR.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:53 PM
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21. Even If I Voted For Him
You'll never convince the majority of the US electorate to do so.

Dennis is a shrill authoritarian.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 06:02 PM
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24. Umm, I think you have the man confused with somebody else
I've heard Dennis speak more than once, and words like "shrill" and "authoritarian" do not fit the man:shrug:
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:16 PM
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8. There's your problem. People do worry about electability.
The big question is who defines electability?
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:30 PM
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11. I don't know who defines it, but I firmly believe that engaging in such thinking
Especially in the primaries is foolish and counterproductive. Kucinich's positions have been years ahead of his Democratic colleagues, and have been proven correct time and again. Don't you think that it is high time that a man with a track record like that get the chance to show what he can really do? Or do want to continue more of the same ol' same ol' with, oh, let's say Hillary:eyes:
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:35 PM
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12. When he can fundraise and have relationships with party apparatus, he's got a shot
But he has yet to show those abilities.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:41 PM
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14. Never know, that might happen yet.
Perhaps he'll nick a page for Dean's playbook and start doing 'Net fundraising. And frankly as far as having "relationships with the party apparatus", it might be the best thing if he didn't. After all, it's not like they have a great record concerning the big issues over the past decade or so. I'm sick of DLC, DNC, New Dems and Neo Liberals. Give me a good old fashioned progressive like Kucinich any day of the week. The rest are all too ready to sell us all down that corporate river. No thanks.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:51 PM
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19. He should be doing 'net fundraising now.
In fact that should be part of this campaign launch.

"And frankly as far as having "relationships with the party apparatus", it might be the best thing if he didn't."

Really? It would be better to attempt a ground up campaign organization across 25 states without any help from the party?

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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 06:00 PM
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23. Well, perhaps he will, we don't know just yet, he's just announced
But frankly I think it would be a good thing if he foregoes the party apparati. For one thing, they have been intent on marginalizing him for the past three years, even though he has been ahead of them all on important issues such as the war, economy, and regaining our civil rights. Given this sort of alienation, it would do the party good if he simply ignored them until he got the nomination, and perhaps beyond. Sure, build it from the ground up, run like the outsider that he is.

The man doesn't need to be beholden to the party, in fact quite the opposite. He acts as the party's conscience, it's about damn time they started listening.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 06:14 PM
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26. Well I hope he's geared for it and will be up and running soon.
"But frankly I think it would be a good thing if he foregoes the party apparati. For one thing, they have been intent on marginalizing him for the past three years, even though he has been ahead of them all on important issues such as the war, economy, and regaining our civil rights. Given this sort of alienation, it would do the party good if he simply ignored them until he got the nomination, and perhaps beyond. Sure, build it from the ground up, run like the outsider that he is. "

I understand where you are coming from but I don't think its possible to run such a race even in the primaries.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:10 PM
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5. Is that his wife or daughter?
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:17 PM
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9. HIs wife
But with a 30-year age difference, you could be forgiven for making that mistake ;)
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 06:07 PM
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25. OY, so much for the shiny finish
Wha happened ?

have the Kerryites thrown JFK under the bus and switching support to Dennis?

WOW- Dennis, you've just created a boondoggle.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:36 PM
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13. Yikes so much for her being an asset (nt)
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:43 PM
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15. Now that's some real open minded thinking
:eyes:
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:48 PM
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17. C'mon now.
This was a thread discussing his beautiful wife as an asset to counteract his perception as not being telegenic. A poster asked whether it was his daughter and I made a joke about it.

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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:51 PM
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18. Sorry, my bad, no excuse, but my brain is still burned from a Poli Sci final today
Peace:hi:
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 05:53 PM
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20. No harm no foul. Congrats on being done for the semester (at least that class)
:toast:
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 06:17 PM
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27. I'll be honored to give him my vote in the primary.
He's just the thing this country needs. I ask myself which candidate can "undo" what Bush Inc has done. Feingold and Kucinich, no doubt in my mind.
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