OK, I admit it. I have an open mind for every bizarre conspiracy theory about Bush there is.

[Target_For_Exterm]

:tinfoilhat:

And when the really weird and crazy stuff about Bush/Cheney comes down the pike, I'm not really surprised. I keep expecting worse stuff, and I keep getting the worse stuff I expect.

Just call me: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

[Rockstone]

1. How about the Bush - Henry Lee Lucas one...

[Target_For_Exterm]

3. Well, they did both hang out in Texas.

:tinfoilhat:

:rofl:

[tom_paine]

11. Actually, of the 152 Death Row Executions, Mr. Lucas was the only one Bushler commuted

Odd, to say the least.

Of course, Bush was notoriously incurious about the executions that came across his desk, spending less than 15 min. on most, according to reports, and rubber-stamping all but one.

Perhaps it was merely that Mr. Lucas was a white man, and thus merited a "white-man's attention" from Bush.

Perhaps Bush, who's murder toll was far smaller at the time than Mr. Lucas', was paying homage to one greater than he. Not anymore, of course. Bush is indirectly and somewhat directly responsible for over half a million deaths, most innocent.

Not Hitler-Stalin numbers, but everybody's got to start somewhere, right?

Of course, it's all speculation except for the bare bones facts.

152 people were executed in George Bush's Texas.
1 person's sentence was commuted.
That person is Henry Lee Lucas, perhaps one of the most prolific serial killers in history (perhaps not...there is some doubt to the number fo this monster's victims and prhaps always will be).

Just the facts. All the rest is filling in blanks and connecting dots. But who knows, really, what was going on in Bush's small and egocentric brain that made him stay Lucas' execution?

[Target_For_Exterm]

13. Well, they say Henry Lee Lucus did have a partner...!

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

Or maybe $5 or $10 in campaign contributions crossed Bush's desk on the appropriate day.

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

[tom_paine]

18. You keep the tinfoil, I'll stick to the facts

152 people were executed in George Bush's Texas.
1 person's sentence was commuted.
That person is Henry Lee Lucas, perhaps one of the most prolific serial killers in history (perhaps not...there is some doubt to the number of this monster's victims and perhaps always will be).

[Target_For_Exterm]

21. OK, I lived in Texas at the time, so what was really going on

was that Henry Lee Lucas confessed to a bunch of murders, then the cops started to say his confessions weren't checking out. (Was it the orange socks murder that triggered this? I forget.) They thought he was lying. There was this big public brouhaha, and Bush commuted his execution.

Did he really kill all those people? Who knows. But I think Bush commuting his sentence was more about public opinion than it was about justice or the law.

[tom_paine]

22. Credible explanation.

Do you mean to say he didn't kill anyone, or that the cops thought this? Or did they say something like 5 victims instead of 205?

Are you saying that Bush governed in Texas and actually paid attention to what Filthy Little Nobodies like us thought? Because that sure is different from how he governs now.

One more question: When you say public brouhaha, do you mean that, in Texas, there was a public outpouring of sympathy for Lucas as an innocent victim about to be executed for crimes he fabricated? ALL his crimes were thought to be fabricated?

I ask honestly, because that seems incongruous. Please elaborate.

[Target_For_Exterm]

23. Bush wasn't anywhere near as disgusting as Governor as he is now.

Perhaps that's just my rosy colored glasses looking back on the past that makes me think that. But most of Bush's worst personality traits have emerged in full bloom since taking the office of the Presidency. I guess he was working up his nerve to let the devil out, if you know what I mean. The fact that Democrats held the legislature in Texas at the time probably also kept him in check.

Here's the low down on the Lucas controversy:

"The trial for the murder of the victim known only as Orange Socks took place in March in San Angelo, Texas. District Attorney Ed Walsh was the chief prosecutor, while Don Higginbotham and Parker McCollough defended Lucas. The case was to be heard before Judge John Carter, who had recently presided over the trial of nurse Genene Jones for the murder of a child.

The trial began with reports of how the victim had been murdered, including Lucas's edited confession. In a written statement and on tape, he had described how he'd picked her up as a hitchhiker, had sex with her, killed her, had sex again, and dumped her in the culvert, skinning his knee on a guard rail. A videotape showed Lucas directing police officers to where he had dropped the victim's body.

However, the defense attorneys proved that the unedited tape revealed that Lucas sometimes contradicted himself and suffered from key lapses in memory. The sheriff even had had to refresh his memory at times during the interview, which suggested that Lucas simply "read" the sheriff's desire for information and gave him what he wanted. The defense also used work records to show the Lucas had been in Florida on October 31 and had cashed a check on November 1, and they tied it all up with psychiatric testimony to show that Lucas was insane. Psychologist Tom Kubiszyn said that Lucas had an IQ of 84, a desire to feel important, a feeling of inferiority, and a belief that he could not direct his own actions. He also had schizophrenia. Lucas cried in court when he heard all this, forcing a recess.

The prosecution hit back with evidence that suggested that Lucas's boss might have recorded his presence at work when he was not there. They also supplied psychiatric testimony that Lucas was not insane. In addition, on one of the tapes, Lucas claimed 360 murders: "We killed 'em most every way there is except poison," detailing exactly what he meant."

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/henry_lee_lucas/13.html

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[Fire Walk With Me]

That's not a conspiracy, that's just unpleasant.

Does the word "pasty" enter into sex? No, never. Ever.

[Target_For_Exterm]

5. Poor Gannon is so jealous!

:tinfoilhat:

(And Laura thought it was Condi she needed to worry/not worry about!)

:rofl:

[LeftCoast]

17. Ha ha! Making fun of gay people is funny

NOT

[LeighAnn]

4. What about the one about Bush's mother being the daughter of Alistair Crowley?

I was talking about this with someone earlier today.

[Target_For_Exterm]

9. Do tell. I need fodder for my illness.

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

[troubleinwinter]

19. Here ya go. Have fun.

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/04/george-w-bush-barbara-bush-and.html

[dchill]

6. BFEE and Halliburton...

To Get No-bid Contracts On Martian Water.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061206/sc_nm/mars_dc

"Basically, this is the 'squirting gun' for water on Mars," Edgett told reporters.

OK, so I made up the headline. :)

[Target_For_Exterm]

8. I thought the moon base was the new Halliburton contract!

Shows you what I know. :tinfoilhat:

[dchill]

14. Well, they need US taxpayers to fund a moon base...

for that leapfrog jump to Mars that will be funded by US taxpayers. The water rights will belong to them, though. They'll need tax breaks on the profits, of course.

[Target_For_Exterm]

15. No doubt they'll ship the dirty water back from Mars to give to

our troops, for which they'll charge inflated prices.

:tinfoilhat:

[Radical Activist]

28. They're building a large space lazer

called "The Allen Parsons Project"

[Target_For_Exterm]

30. Is there anything Halliburton isn't (supposedly) building to

extort money from the government? Perhaps they got the contract to convert captured UFO technology to next years Air Force fighter jet?

:tinfoilhat:

I think when the profits get lean, Cheney just makes crap up to put in a no-bid Halliburton contract.

[leftofthedial]

7. the truth is far worse than any of our speculation

[Target_For_Exterm]

10. Ain't that the sad truth.

[necso]

12. Being open-minded is (vastly) different

than having a predilection for something, having a predisposition to believe, etc.

(I'm making no judgement here; I'm just pointing out an important distinction.)

[Target_For_Exterm]

16. Can you be guilty of both at the same time?

;)

[necso]

24. Predilection and predisposition?

Sure.

Open-mindedness and any (instantiated) amount of this sort-of-thing?

No.

Now, mind you, one shapes one's predictions based on one's understanding of the circumstances, the nature (character) of the people, things and problems involved, the historical (cultural) currents that are flowing, etc. And one looks ("honestly") to see if these predictions are instantiated (a good test of one's understandings, knowledge, perspective, perception, etc).

But wishing (biasing) to see, fix-mindedly expecting to see, only (really) looking to see, and falsely perceiving, one's predictions (etc) as being instantiated in reality, are grave errors.

We must forgo ego (predilections, etc), and look at reality for what it is.

And when we perceive some contradiction, some unexpected thing (like not seeing what we predicted we'd find), this may be an indicator of greatest importance -- and we should re-examine our "knowledge", "understandings", etc, to correct for this misunderstanding (bad data, etc: including everything that's faulty) -- and to prevent the same error (at least) from happening again.

And one must allow for -- and correct for -- known predilections (etc) of this sort (that bias thinking, etc).

And one must always be on the look-out for such predilections (etc).

[Target_For_Exterm]

29. So... Since all the bad things I expect from Bush come true,

does that mean my meter is pegged in the right direction? My bias is alrighty, or something like that?

Or am I hopelessly screwed from being exposed to the Bush Presidency, and will never again see the world in the same way again?

:)

Tsk. And here I thought predilections were the stuff people talked about together in the dark...!

[necso]

34. I wouldn't know the particulars

of your expectations -- or how these have panned-out.

Form your own judgement in this matter -- and realize that others will too. (These may differ.)

...

Perhaps you're thinking of sexual predilections. There are other types.

[Target_For_Exterm]

38. I guess no free shrinkage for me tonight. ;)

And here I was laying on the couch and thinking of Freud (and man did he have a messed up brain).

Yep, I was thinking of the more commonly referred to predilections. I was being (kinda?) funny. But that reminds me of my predilections for cheesecake, which is almost as good. ;)

Don't mind me. My sense of humor is out of control tonight and everything seems funny, even when it's not. :)

[Blue Belle]

20. I'm right there with ya Target....

I nothing this Administration does shockes me anymore because I'm so suspcious that they're guilty of so much worse. I just wish they'd start getting investigated and prosecuted for it.

[TroubleMan]

25. I just posted about something recently that fits in with this: (link)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2872719

Makram Chams is an interesting read.

[Target_For_Exterm]

31. More fodder for the 9/11 "Bush made me do it" conspiracy?

A lot of this stuff is just weird as h*ll. Stinks of CIA (Poppy?).

A read that a bunch of the 9/11 hijackers spent time at military bases for training, too. Weird, that.

[TroubleMan]

36. Well...a guy who laundered money for the hijackers went to work for a defense contactor

who was involved with Duke Cunningham, and with Abu Ghraib....that's pretty mind blowing. Oh...and he was part owner in a casino boat with the guy who owned the place where the highjackers learned to fly planes.

[Target_For_Exterm]

40. Wow, that's pretty wild. I hadn't heard that, either.

[mondo joe]

26. What about Mary Cheney incubating a new body for Dick Cheney's brain to be

transplanted into?

[Target_For_Exterm]

32. He'd never live that long. He's already running on batteries

and clockwork tickers.

:rofl:

[mondo joe]

33. They can do it in utero. As soon as his body goes into failure they will

carry out the transplant.

[Target_For_Exterm]

35. True. His brain is very, very, very small...!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[mondo joe]

37. The embyronic stem cells are very receptive to his brain engrams.

He'll be around to ruin the country for generations to come.

[Target_For_Exterm]

39. Oh no...!

:scared:

[Radical Activist]

27. The whole Bush family lends itself to conspiracy theories.

I'm usually skeptical about conspiracy theories, but how can you not look at four generations of this family and wonder? Prescott prosecuted for trading with the enemy, Bush 1 as CIA director, Bush 2 ties to the Saudis and Bin-Laden family. Even on Barb's side with the WW1 war profiteer. It is one scary family to look at that makes me question if the people run this nation in any way at all.