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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 07:51 PM
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Does Frank Rich Read DU?
Interesting that he should write a column about a subject which has generated so much conversation here on DU. Just the other day H20Man asked if we thought * was insane. Mr. Rich uses the kinder word delusional. And he mentions how those on the internet contend * is drinking again. We all know they read what is talked about on the internet, so maybe, the ideas posted here on DU are being noticed outside this community. There certainly have been a lot of threads on the very matters he discusses in his column. You never know...

Has He Started Talking to the Walls?
By Frank Rich
The New York Times


<<<snip>>>

“But that's not the half of it. Mr. Bush relentlessly refers to Iraq's "unity government" though it is not unified and can only nominally govern. (In Henry Kissinger's accurate recent formulation, Iraq is not even a nation "in the historic sense.") After that pseudo-government's prime minister, Nuri al-Maliki, brushed him off in Amman, the president nonetheless declared him "the right guy for Iraq" the morning after. This came only a day after The Times's revelation of a secret memo by Mr. Bush's national security adviser, Stephen Hadley, judging Mr. Maliki either "ignorant of what is going on" in his own country or disingenuous or insufficiently capable of running a government. Not that it matters what Mr. Hadley writes when his boss is impervious to facts.

In truth the president is so out of it he wasn't even meeting with the right guy. No one doubts that the most powerful political leader in Iraq is the anti-American, pro-Hezbollah cleric Moktada al-Sadr, without whom Mr. Maliki would be on the scrap heap next to his short-lived predecessors, Ayad Allawi and Ibrahim al-Jaafari. Mr. Sadr's militia is far more powerful than the official Iraqi army that we've been helping to "stand up" at hideous cost all these years. If we're not going to take him out, as John McCain proposed this month, we might as well deal with him directly rather than with Mr. Maliki, his puppet. But our president shows few signs of recognizing Mr. Sadr's existence.” Cont…

“I have not been one to buy into the arguments that Mr. Bush is stupid or is the sum of his "Bushisms" or is, as feverish Internet speculation periodically has it, secretly drinking again. I still don't. But I have believed he is a cynic - that he could always distinguish between truth and fiction even as he and Karl Rove sold us their fictions. That's why, when the president said that "absolutely, we're winning" in Iraq before the midterms, I just figured it was more of the same: another expedient lie to further his partisan political ends.

But that election has come and gone, and Mr. Bush is more isolated from the real world than ever. That's scary. Neither he nor his party has anything to gain politically by pretending that Iraq is not in crisis. Yet Mr. Bush clings to his delusions with a near-rage - watch him seethe in his press conference with Mr. Maliki - that can't be explained away by sheer stubbornness or misguided principles or a pat psychological theory. Whatever the reason, he is slipping into the same zone as Woodrow Wilson did when refusing to face the rejection of the League of Nations, as a sleepless L.B.J. did when micromanaging bombing missions in Vietnam, as Ronald Reagan did when checking out during Iran-Contra. You can understand why Jim Webb, the Virginia senator-elect with a son in Iraq, was tempted to slug the president at a White House reception for newly elected members of Congress. Mr. Bush asked "How's your boy?" But when Mr. Webb replied, "I'd like to get them out of Iraq," the president refused to so much as acknowledge the subject. Maybe a timely slug would have woken him up.” Cont…

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/120306A.shtml
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 08:10 PM
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1. I want to e-mail
him a link to that thread. It's evident that a lot of people are seeing the same behaviors in the president. I bet he would get a kick out of the thread.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 08:17 PM
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3. Do It
It will confirm that such thinking is a trend, and if he isn't reading DU, maybe he now will. A lot could be gleaned from this forum.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 08:23 PM
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4. It is interesting
to note that the things that people used to say on DU are being said more and more frequently in the corporate media these days. It's a good sign.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 09:51 PM
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6. I have noticed
a few newspaper articles that mention Kos and MyDD as having been spreading internet news. News that newspaper was beginning to cover.

So I head over to Kos and MyDD, and lo and behold both sites barely mention that *news*.

Ya know what tho? That *news* was talked about extensively here.

Could it be that reporters are protecting their source by not mentioning DU and instead list those two other wannabe sites? Say it ain't so!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 10:14 PM
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7. Missed the thread ... do you have a link?
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 10:32 PM
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9. Here It Is
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 10:53 PM
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10. Thanks!
:toast:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 10:17 PM
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8. dup
Edited on Sun Dec-03-06 10:18 PM by jgraz
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Broadslidin Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 08:14 PM
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2. Thank You For the Truth Out Link.....!!
Tis Appreciated.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 08:57 PM
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5. TRUTHOUT Has Always Been GREAT!
They were pushing back a long time before it became "fashionable" and I have alot of respect for them regardless of the recent "insident" or "non-insident" screw up.

I like Frank a lot too!

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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 07:16 AM
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11. A number of us have been talking about this for several years...
Bush's psychopathology is obvious.

In addition to long term mental illness,
he has been actively drinking for some
time as is apparent by his public displays
of drunkenness. And he most likely is hitting
prescription drugs. Powell made it clear in
past comments that Ambien usage is rampant at
the White House.

I think several things are happening, Bush is most likely decompensating as his narcissistic facade is being challenged.
And the public is beginning to notice it more as the situation
in Iraq deteriorates, Bush's rigidity and inability to
function becomes more apparent.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 07:17 AM
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12. Mornin'
:kick:
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