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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 01:20 AM Original message |
Nightline: Why don't the Christian Right care about the poor & sick |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
1. Because they think they're poor and sick because god is punishing them |
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liberaldemocrat7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 09:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
29. capitalist christians who support irresponsible business practices. |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 11:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
35. Agreed: "Poor" because they don't work hard enough, and "sick" because of their vices... |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 07:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
67. We had a court case here recently |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
2. Because they are really uninterested in walking in the footsteps of Jesus |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 09:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
28. Right on! nt |
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mom cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 11:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
36. Walking in those footsteps is hard work. I am thankful for the |
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justice1 (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
3. I've thought about making a bumper sticker. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
49. orr.... The Meek Are Getting Ready |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
50. Please do. |
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liberaldemocrat7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 04:17 AM Response to Reply #3 |
79. Done. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
4. Because that's not the roll they're supposed to play in the republican outrage apparatus |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
5. According to their doctrine the poor & sick haven't been "blessed" |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 01:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. I guess it was a Reagan thing |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
6. They are the kind of people that really got Jesus pissed off... |
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Rageneau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 05:06 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. He called them 'whited sepulchres' -- pure on the outside, corrupt within. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 01:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
45. Make ya wonder if any of those so called "christians" ever read the bible |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
7. Ok, I really have to point this out... |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 01:38 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. The Christian far right is getting way too loony |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 09:18 AM Response to Reply #10 |
25. If the poor and downtrodden of the world have to depend |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 09:21 AM Response to Reply #7 |
27. There's a good reason we can't rely on churches |
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Union Thug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
8. Because even though that hate Darwin, they love social darwinisim. n/t |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
9. The responsibility for the stewardship of our environment |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
12. does nightline do any archives? i'd like to see it. n/t |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 09:31 AM Response to Reply #12 |
30. Me too. nt |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 05:22 AM Response to Original message |
14. Because St. Ronnie convinced them that "if you work hard, you can be rich" |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 09:17 AM Response to Reply #14 |
24. Harpers had an article a while back about how Capitalism started out |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 06:28 AM Response to Original message |
15. short answer: they're not christians. |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 08:27 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. I call them "old testament Christians" |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 07:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
68. You'd be mistaken |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
16. It always amazes me the edifice complex that they have. |
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jaysunb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 08:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
84. They are not Christians ! |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
17. American "christianity" is neither |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
18. Because they're "lazy," so they "deserve it" |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
19. It's all about Abortion and the Homosexual agenda, silly. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
21. Because they are assholes |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
22. I have been wondering the same thing for about 6 years now. |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
23. uh, because the poor don't have money to donate |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
26. The answer is simple. |
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hvn_nbr_2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
31. Because they got a bad translation |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
32. The "Christian Right" has "interpreted" the bible for their own purpose |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
33. Well abortion and gay hotbuttons is were the money is. |
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Sapere aude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
34. The Christian right adopted the title Christian. They are not the authentic item. |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
37. One reason: $$$$$$$$$ |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
38. Why don't they act anything like Jesus at all? - n/t |
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FormerDem06 (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 12:35 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I guess you're talking about mega - churches in this thread... |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Jesus never taught hate, of sin or anything else. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 01:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. "love the sinner, hate the sin" is codespeak. |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 01:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I think I've heard it used for other things, too, but you're not wrong. |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. Jesus would be hurt by it. |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:42 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Exactly what I was thinking. - n/t |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. I have never heard that phrase used any other way except |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 11:13 PM Response to Reply #44 |
74. Bingo |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 08:11 AM Response to Reply #74 |
81. precisely. If they TRULY cared about gay people, they'd accept them |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #40 |
57. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 05:11 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Deleted message |
Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. I'm surprised that anti-Methodist post is being allowed to stand. |
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FormerDem06 (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 12:22 PM Response to Reply #61 |
88. Were you talking about me? |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 05:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
59. Yeah, some OTT evangelicals get to me, as well. I appreciate the long |
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Duncan Grant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #40 |
64. You realize that Southern Baptists are rabidly anti-gay, right? |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. yup, see my post #44 |
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FormerDem06 (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 12:04 PM Response to Reply #64 |
87. Maybe I should clarify we're Southern and Baptist, thus the quotes |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 06:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
82. there is no such thing as love the sinner and hate the sin. |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
39. because it's about the dollar bill |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
42. No, the real headline is the growing divide in the evangelical movement. |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 01:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I hope people were paying attention to your post. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
47. they are selfish, which they spin as "personal responsibility" |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
48. Because they like to poke fun at GLBT people and women too |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
51. The Influence of Calvinism |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 08:04 PM Response to Reply #51 |
72. Calvin never taught that election had anything to do with wealth |
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oc2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
52. Because todays Christians are a bunch of Hypocrits. |
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sentelle (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
55. $$$ |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
60. Because they aren't Christians, they're legalists. |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
62. Televangilists can't milk money from the poor |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 03:20 AM Response to Reply #62 |
78. Good one. However, they do help make more poor. |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 05:20 PM Response to Reply #62 |
89. Sure they can. |
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kevinbgoode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
63. Because they really aren't "christians" |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
66. Because they're Faux-Christians. |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
69. Because the Christian Left "DOES". n/t |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
70. Because they are Calvinists. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 08:07 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Most of 'em aren't |
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Codeblue (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
71. I don't recall a time when |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
75. It doesn't rile up the masses like gays and abortion |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-01-06 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
76. The only god they care about is the almighty dollar. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 02:24 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. And about hating "sinners". (no text) |
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kdpeters (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 04:50 AM Response to Original message |
80. Because they are not followers of Christ. They're Pharisees. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
83. Actually, a significant number of them are voicing more and more concern |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
85. Because it doesnt pay..thats why. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
86. Christian Right, care, poor |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
90. "other". Sheesh. |
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