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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:24 PM
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George Will calls Webb a "Boor" over his encounter with Bush!
You know you're doing something right if you have Will's ivy towered hackles up:

"Webb certainly has conveyed what he is; a boor, Never mind the patent disrespect for the presidency. Webb's more gross offense was calculated rudeness towards another human being--one who, disregarding many hard things Webb had said about him during the campaign, asked a civil and caring question, as one parent to another..."

Since when was Bush "another human being" and what about Bush who crassly pushed aside Webb's hope that his son and other sons and daughters were not in Iraq!

www.dailykos.com
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:26 PM
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1. Ron_Green calls Will an "asshole" over his encounter with the truth!
What a parrot this guy is.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:27 PM
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3. ContraBass Black agrees, and declares Will a blowhard
In addition.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:32 PM
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9. YOY States Will Needs to understand the difference between the President and someone actually
deserving of respect.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:26 PM
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2. If Bush had said, "I look forward to their all coming home, too" the situation would...
have been diffused and he would be getting brownie points for poise.

But, as is, he has no tact.

Webb probably could have been smoother, but yI give a lot of leeway to parents in his position. I don't touch those who feel their kids were killed in Iraq "defending us from terrorism" or Cindy Sheehan. Whatever makes them feel better makes me feel better.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:28 PM
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4. I wonder how it would have played if Webb had reprimanded him.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 03:17 PM
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26. Yes, I kind of wish Webb had stuck with it. Asked, "what have the twins been up to?"nt
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:28 PM
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5. Hmmm
A: How's your son?
B: I'd like for him to come home.
A: That isn't what I asked. I asked how he is.

And B is the boor? I'll retire to Bedlam.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:28 PM
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6. If someone doesn't show patent disrespect for the Bush presidency..
Then there's something seriously wrong with you.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:28 PM
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7. I wish Webb had responded to Bush's smart-ass remark of "I
didn't ask you that" with "With all due respect, ahem, Mr. President, if you had children serving over in Iraq, you'd understand what I mean."
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:31 PM
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8. bush was the "boor" for blowing off Webb's concern for his son..
there where many, more appropriate replies he could have given in response.:banghead:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:36 PM
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11. omg yes. and Will is a BOOB!
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:35 PM
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10. George Will is the walking personification of BOOR.
"a rude or insensitive person" - boor


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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:41 PM
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12. Wow. I didn't realize George Will was still alive. Last I heard he was
making up statistics to "prove" there were no voting irregulaties in 2000 in Florida. He lost so much credibility over that I thought he had just died or something.

I love this part... Bush "asked a civil and caring question, as one parent to another..." Is that the same parent Bush who didn't attend his daughters' graduations or their court hearings? Is that the parent Bush who never sees his own kids, to the point where there are rumors they have ordered him to stay away from them? George Will used to have integrity, even if he has always been a pretentious buffoon with a hyperbolic vocabulary.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:47 PM
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13. George Will is a BORE
:boring:
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:48 PM
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14. Well, I call Will, and every irrelevant piece of crap that dribbles from his mouth, a BORE.
:boring:
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:48 PM
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15. Hey, Mr. Will, have a son over in Iraq
(as Senator Webb and I do)fighting an enemy that has no specifically identifiable leadership, organization, flag, uniform, ideology, gender, age, or religion because your government lied you into invading this country. Watch thousands of people die, your fellow soldiers and Iraqi citizens. Learn that the Bush administration totally cooked the books for why we went to war. Recognize that not only are billions of dollars being spent, but that billions of dollars are unaccounted for - meanwhile, Halliburton is raking in record profits through no-bid contracts.
Have a son in the war, Mr. Will, under these circumstances, and then get back to me.
You, sir, are the boor.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:02 PM
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16. and George Will is a festering tit on the breast of conservatism
Edited on Thu Nov-30-06 01:03 PM by sui generis
gotta love it.

These ad hominem grannies just don't know how to dish it out. George Will you shoulda stuck to preaching, got yourself a hot manhooker meth connection and lived your days happily ever after in some revival tent in colorado bilking grannies and diddling minors like the rest of your kind.
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:03 PM
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17. "Patent disrespect for the Presidency" ? WTF!!
You'll have to excuse me but I was brought up with the notion that respect was "earned" and not handed out like Halloween candy.
What exactly has Bush done to earn Senator Webb's respect? Get us involved in war under trumped up reasoning and cherry-picked intelligence? Turn Iraq into a free-for-all bloodbath? Send his son into combat from which there appears no way to extract our troops without more violence? Are these things deserving of respect?

Does George will have any children? Are they overseas caught in the middle of the sectarian violence in Iraq? Gee, for some reason I tend to doubt it.

Dear Mr. Will,

Kiss my ___!(fill in the blank. Hint: 3-letter word, begins with "a" , ends with "s")

Sincerely,
Freethought
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:05 PM
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18. I wonder how Will feels when Bush gets his dander up when someone
addresses * as "Mr. Bush" - the real boor gets very testy and points out that he is to be referred to as "Mr. PRESIDENT" ...

Of course, any time a Dem is involved in anything, the media/press makes sure that there is absolutely nothing positive about it ...
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:08 PM
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19. I'll respect the presidency when someone like Webb is president. n/t
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:11 PM
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20. Here is a link to the WaPo POS:
Already Too Busy for Civility

By George F. Will
Thursday, November 30, 2006; Page A23



That was certainly swift. Washington has a way of quickly acculturating people, especially those who are most susceptible to derangement by the derivative dignity of office. But Jim Webb, Democratic senator-elect from Virginia, has become a pompous poseur and an abuser of the English language before actually becoming a senator.

Wednesday's Post reported that at a White House reception for newly elected members of Congress, Webb "tried to avoid President Bush," refusing to pass through the reception line or have his picture taken with the president. When Bush asked Webb, whose son is a Marine in Iraq, "How's your boy?" Webb replied, "I'd like to get them out of Iraq." When the president again asked "How's your boy?" Webb replied, "That's between me and my boy." Webb told The Post:

"I'm not particularly interested in having a picture of me and George W. Bush on my wall. No offense to the institution of the presidency, and I'm certainly looking forward to working with him and his administration. leaders do some symbolic things to try to convey who they are and what the message is."

Webb certainly has conveyed what he is: a boor. Never mind the patent disrespect for the presidency. Webb's more gross offense was calculated rudeness toward another human being -- one who, disregarding many hard things Webb had said about him during the campaign, asked a civil and caring question, as one parent to another. When -- if ever -- Webb grows weary of admiring his new grandeur as a "leader" who carefully calibrates the "symbolic things" he does to convey messages, he might consider this: In a republic, people decline to be led by leaders who are insufferably full of themselves.

-snip

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/29/AR2006112901267.html

PLS DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS DIRECTLY TO GEORGE AT:

georgewill@washpost.com
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:41 PM
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24. I sent him a note:
Mr. Will: I understand that you've undertaken to maintain a certain "conservative" position in your writing and commentary, as we all seek a consistent professional identity to keep a career on track. However, I'm truly mystified by your support of George W. Bush in his tenuous hold on the U.S. Presidency, not to mention on reality itself. He's shown himself to be a mean-spirited little martinet, utterly incapable of the simple human act of apology and remorse. To defend his unfeeling comment to Senator-elect Webb isolates you further into a corner occupied, I'm afraid, by increasingly eccentric and shrill ideologues. Please mark carefully the tipping point, because you may be rapidly approaching it.

Sincerely,
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RedStateShame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:13 PM
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21. Is today opposite day?
A Democrat and Pres. Bush exchange words, and the person lambasted for being rude and butchering the English language is the Democrat? Pardon me, I must be leaving Bizarro America to return home.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:14 PM
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22. to George Will-> Pot, meet kettle.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:35 PM
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23. o, and booooooosh is such a damsel in distress that george will has to vilify webb!
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:48 PM
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25. I'm still wondering why no one points out how rude the Dear Leader
was in making his snippy little "That's not what I asked" retort.

Respect goes both ways. In a republic (which I was told we officially still have) the executive is supposed to observe some decorum in respecting others.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 03:21 PM
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27. He has bad manners. He doesn't even know how to sit properly.
I have to say that Webb doesn't either. You don't cross your legs at the ankle in a formal/businesslike social setting. I thought Webb's shoe was going to rub on the pants leg of the senator sitting next to him. You cross your legs at the knee. Check out photos from the Casablanca, Yalta, Potsdam conferences.

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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 03:24 PM
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28. Wait A Minute.
If Elitist=bad
And Boorish=bad

Then it's like the Thugs aspire to some sort of behavioral Communism these days. What's a poor Democrat to do in these troubled times?

Jay
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Ino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 03:30 PM
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29. how does he know HOW * asked the question?
IE can just see * asking it with a smirk on his face, which would give it a whole different meaning. A very unpleasant meaning.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 03:32 PM
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30. What did Will call Cheney when he told Leahy to fuck himself?
Was there any comment?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 03:40 PM
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31. GOOD question. nt
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 05:03 PM
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32. There are many pages of posts to GWill, and they are not happy
with him. It seems that most people think Bush got what he deserved because Webb had tried to avoid Bush, but got cornered into responding to him.
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