Gore beginning to get some "buzz" from Pundits. Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC

[KoKo]

had Dee Dee Myers and Pat Buchanan on talking about Iraq and Bush still saying "Stay the Course" even after leaked Baker Commission Report.

Then they went onto '08 where Newt was discussed and Buchanan said that he has "baggage" and the conservatives won't go for him...but he has the advantage of being out of power and so he can say things that McCain can't say that will make him appealing as a Candidate for the Repugs.

Andrea then brought up Al Gore, saying he also had an advantage like Gingrich in that he's been out of power but has gotten a big following from environmentalists and has been able to criticize the P-Resident about the war. Buchanan said, if he ran he would beat Hillary and he has the advantage of being able to "jump in at the last minute" to run. DeeDee Myers agreed and said: "I don't know if he will run..but if he runs like the Al Gore we've been seeing since he was out of office and not the Al Gore of 2000 he could be a great contender and he could get alot of money to run." Buchanan said "well if he loses some weight." Mitchell said: "we would all enjoy a debate between Gore and Hillary, wouldn't we?"

Anyway...the best part of this is that they all agreed Gore could come in late and have lots of money behind him even coming in late. That's good because if Gore comes in too early he will have folks like Buchanan attacking him on weight, clothes and mispeaks.

[bryant69]

1. It won't be just Buchannan

Come on - the media hates Gore - and too many liberals are all to happy to make fun of him as well. The jokes about Love Conal and inventing the internet are just too damn funny to let go. I want him to be President, but I hope, for his sake, he doesn't run.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[KoKo]

3. you hope "for his sake" he doesn't run? Wha? He's a tough guy and

been through alot. I think he can take it...but I think he's calculated enough to not "run" but wait to be pushed to run and then come in when the rest of the field has burned itself out.

:shrug:

[Zodiak]

7. That's funny, maybe I have no sense of humor

But I find those particular jokes about Gore to not only be unfunny, but completly misinformed.

And they are also irrelevent, even to the right-wing elements in my family.

Here's a secret not mentioned by the media...the religious amongst us have warmed to Al Gore in the last few years (environmental policy, populism, anti-war amongst the reasons). If he runs, he will destroy Hillary and beat the Republican, too...even Guiliani or McCain. Al Gore is exactly what America needs in the executive branch, and I hear a lot of support for him amongst all but the most freeperish of freepers. I have never seen a Republican grudgingly support any other Democrat in my hometown in North Texas unless they were a native of the state.

Al Gore running will also indicate that we are ready to start over where we left off in 2000 and put this Bush history behind us. Americans are ready to undo the SCOTUS appointment themselves. Just give 'em a chance.

[bryant69]

9. I'm not saying I believe them

I don't - they are lies- I'm just saying that the media loves that storyline, and even if they didn't it's hard for them to change a storyline once it's set. And some on our ownside enjoy making jokes about it as well.

When the foley story broke for example, there were jokes about how this was Al Gores revenge - because he invnted the internet.

Bryant

[NYCGirl]

10. One thing the media loves more — the comeback story.

And this would be the all-time greatest comeback story.

[fooj]

21. My hubby thinks this has a nice ring to it...

Gore/Kerry 08! Like he said "Maybe it's time the two rightful winners of our General Elections claimed thier victories." You never know..........

[NYCGirl]

22. Personally, I disagree with your husband on one side of that ticket...

but that's just me.

[fooj]

25. That's cool.

No worries...B-)

[Zodiak]

11. I wouldn't worry about the media

They're almost as irrelevent as Bush is. They have jumped the shark so many times that they are only talking to themselves and a few marginalized dupes.

The average American doesn't watch news, anymore. Within my little focus group of Southerners and rural Ohioans, the news is disseminated from the more political of the family, and their sources are often the internet.

No matter what, the media will come after the Dem. Gore has far less liabilities than most others in that respect for some of the reasons I outlined downthread, and has demonsrated the courage to fight back. We cannot be weak-kneed and second guess ourselves in front of the paper tiger of the media. Their time is over.



The only person I think can heal this country quickly is Al Gore. I feel it in my bones, and that is not a criticism of the other candidates. It is a testament to Gore's tranformation and what effect that transformation has quietly exerted on the electorate.

[Mabus]

12. fyi: I linked to your post in another thread

Someone on antoher thread was trying to tell me that Gore doesn't connect with the common man. The example the other poster used to make his argument was Gore's MLK speech. The crux of the argument is that the common American is too stupid to understand Gore when he speaks and that Gore's choice of language creates some sort of barrier that prevents him from connecting with the common man.

The poster's final conclusion was "Gore has an opportunity to work on his message, if he wants to run again."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2821161&mesg_id=2832496

I had already demonstrated in several posts that Gore was stronger in Tennessee than the MSM would like people to think in 2000 and that putting Gore on the ticket gave the Democrats a 4% bump in Tennessee in 1992 over 1988. The real reason that the Dems won Tennessee in 92 and 96 was that Perot was on the ticket and took votes away from Bush I and Dole. I also pointed out that Gore won Super Tuesday in 1988 by winning five southern states. And if you look at the stats, Gore got a higher overall percentage of the vote in Tennessee in 2000. Gore has always connected to the common man.

Anyway, I linked to your post to help demonstrate that Gore is still reaching the common man and is changing minds. Even better, Gore hasn't needed to dumb down his message to connect. Right now, Gore, by being a non-candidate, has the opportunity to talk issues that need to be discussed in the public arena. When Gore talks, people listen. Moreover, Gore has credibility with other countries.

[NYCGirl]

14. And check this out for "connecting"...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/11/30/gore-planning-to-release-_n_35227.html

[Mabus]

16. Yep, nothing to see here. Move along.

:rofl:

[Uncle Joe]

19. That thread is a testament to how worried the freepers are Al will run,

the very first post attempts to change the subject and throw it off balance.

[janx]

29. Gore's sense of humor would endear him to the American people.

This time, he'll be able to use it. His humor is offbeat, clever, and perfectly timed.

[Zodiak]

17. feel free to repost

just understand that my evidence is purely anecdotal.

[Mabus]

20. After 2000

We had a lot of friends who thought Gore's political career was dead. My husband, a Gore-to-the-core type, almost became a pariah in some circles because of his continued support of Gore.

In 2004, many of our friends came to understand how much damage the media inflicted upon Gore when their favorite candidate was attacked in the same way. We've had friends, the same ones who would roll their eyes whenever my husband talked about Gore previously, call him and want to talk about Gore. My husband also gets e-mails from these same people quoting Gore's speeches or sending him links they discovered on youtube and google. He's had several phone calls today from people who are excited about the uptick of Gore stories in the news and the possibility of Gore running. It is a complete 180 for some people.

All I have is anecdotal too, but the very fact that people have called and asked if there are any Gore meetups (since they think he would know) in our area. People are asking and interested in Gore.

[dalaigh lllama]

24. more anecdotal support for Gore

My husband's an old style Republican (non-fundy, fiscal conservative -- remember them?). After we saw AIT last summer, he said if Al Gore ran for President, he'd vote for him. (My husband is completely disenchanted with the current version of the GOP.)

On another note, I'm trying to understand how anyone could disparage Gore's MLK speech by saying it was too cerebral. Good grief, I thought it was the most inspirational, electrifying speeches I'd heard in ages. As far as I'm concerned, we've had the dumbed down version of a president, and see how well that worked for us.

[KoKo]

18. Thanks....From your relatives lips to God's Ears! That's good news and

really surprising. Agree that we need to start over but hope that the Bushies will end up being pursued like Nazi War Criminals and Pinochet were. Even if we have to hunt them down in Paraguay or jungles.

A little Old Testament wrath, there, I guess.

[bobbolink]

28. Where is Gore on poverty? I've never heard him mention it.

?

[tridim]

2. Buchanan just said he thinks Gore can beat Sen Clinton.

IMO, Gore shouldn't put all his eggs in the Iowa basket.

BTW, I thought Iowa was being phased out as the first step. Guess that didn't happen.

[partylessinOhio]

4. Buchanan is a has-been that never was.

He is so jealous of anyone that has been successful at being elected which Al Gore certainly was many times including in 2000.

Would Buchanan comment on the weight of any of the Repug candidates? He certainly would not.

As far as I know Al Gore was never an alcoholic but we know who is one.

Which trait is more important to the voter?

[kiteinthewind]

5. Gore deserves to go to the WH! After all, he WAS elected in 2000

:toast:

[wundermaus]

6. Gore was elected President in 2000...

He will be re-elected in 2008 and this time, he will serve.

[Zodiak]

8. There is no candidate

that unites Democrats more. Deaniacs, Clarkies, Kerryites, Clintonians.....they all mostly agree on Al Gore, and only Al Gore.

That is a damned good sign.

Even many Republicans have warmed to him (moderstate ones who go to less political churches).

ON EDIT: one more thing - Gore has not been in the government for the last 6 years, and so does not have the liability of being a part of this monstrous period in our history. There is no pinning the Iraq war on his chest. Other Dems have that advantage, too (Clark), but not many.

[Bandit]

15. Not just moderate Republicans

Gore went to one of Norquist's infamous Wednesday meetings and gave a speach on Global Warming. He received a standing ovation....These are the most hard right people on earth...

[Subdivisions]

13. I think he is known well enough, even if you leave out

An Inconvenient Truth, that he could take the election if he waited until just a few months before the election.

This will save him a lot of energy leading up to the elections by not being obliged to play the election games and fending off swift-boating attacks.

[KoKo]

23. Gore..."tests the waters" and keeps his name out there...good on him. n/t

[Eurobabe]

26. I think Al Gore has hypothyroidism

That was my thought when I saw him in GQ. It slows your metabolism down.

I know I have it. Tipper does too. I certainly hope he is having that monitored.

[NYCGirl]

27. He has something I'm sure a lot of DUers also have — it's called "getting older."

And it sure beats the alternative.

[Eurobabe]

32. Yeah, but my point is, alot of folks are walking around

with thyroid problems and don't know it. Although I would think that he is on top of anything because of his wife's experience with thyroid problems. Another weird side note, thyroid problems sometimes hit both spouses -- no one knows why? Is it because of diet? virus? environment?

I didn't mean the comment in a negative way, just that I have concern for him.

(BTW, January is NATOINAL THYROID AWARENESS MONTH!) Last year's campaign: http://www.aace.com/public/awareness/tam/2006/index.php

[Manifestor_of_Light]

31. quite possible

My thyroid died when I was about 11 or 12 and I know what it's like. I take the natural cheap stuff, Armour.

[Eurobabe]

33. Lucky you, I was on it for 6 mos., then got OD'd

can't take it anymore, I convert T3 too well on my own. I guess that's a good thing, my weight is about 20 lbs. more than when I was 25. That's not too bad. It will be less soon, because I will be going skiing, becoming more active, etc.

[hamletsophelia]

30. a fake

Gore was a dead stick ten years ago+ and stil is, if dem party wants to regain white house they better find someone more outstanding than Gore, even Obama..

[montana500]

35. You mean pioneer.

And real leader.

[Horse with no Name]

37. Republicans are scared of Gore

Aren't they?
They've been through his dirty underwear and all they could say is that he invented the "internets".
That's it.
Guy is clean.
Doesn't cheat on his wife. Does great humanitarian work. Has been half of one of the most prosperous Presidencies in history.
He is the real deal and the Republicans know if he chooses to run...they don't have a candidate that can come close. And we all know in order to steal the vote, it HAS to be close.
After all, he beat Bush in 2000.
And he has only gotten better in the last 6 years.
It will be a Democratic landslide if Gore runs. No stopping the train.
And the Republicans won't even be able to cheat.
It's a shame really, isn't it?:sarcasm:

[NNadir]

34. I don't give a rat's ass what pundits say. They are all fools.

But I will say this, if Al Gore runs I will support him wildly.

[Horse with no Name]

36. Actually I heard Buchanan praising Gore

last night on Tucker (Scarborough was hosting).
I almost fell out of my chair, but I heard correctly.

[AtomicKitten]

38. oooooh, don't tease me

That would make me so happy I just might get some on you people here at DU.

[Horse with no Name]

39. kick