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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 08:08 AM
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New Children's Book Teaches Intolerance & Xenophobia
New Children's Book Teaches Intolerance & Xenophobia
Reported by Marie Therese - November 29, 2006 -

Judge John H. Wilson (Criminal Court, Brooklyn, New York) has penned a new children's book called Hot House Flowers that is causing a lot of controversy among immigration activists. On yesterday morning's FOX & Friends First hosts Kiran Chetry and Tiki Barber interviewed the author, who tried to defend himself against an "anti-immigrant" charge by stating that he is not opposed to legal immigrants, only to those who enter the country illegally. When Kiran Chetry asked him how he would handle the millions of illegals already in the country, Wilson responded: "Well, many of them probably should be seeking legal counsel about seeking exit from the country ..."

Wilson wrote the book because he could not find a book on the "big issues" that he could read to his four-year-old son. Hot House Flowers is an "allegory" in which the mother dandelion and her seedlings (illegal immigrants) invade the home of the hot house flowers (the "legal" residents) threatening their very existence and finally forcing them to deny the dandelions the ability to grow.

"I'm not calling immigrants weeds, " Wilson stated. "The fallacy that a lot of people have in understating this issue is that there's a big distinction between immigrants and illegal immigrants and there is nothing in this book that is intended to be anti-immigration. ... The intention was more of a universal allegory regarding defense of home and defense of country. Is there a parallel with the issue of illegal immigration? Of course there is. But the broader issues of the book are intended to be universal story, somehing that could be read a hundred years from now and applied to issues that may be facing the human race then, along with issues that we faced a hundred years ago."

More:
http://www.newshounds.us/2006/11/29/new_childrens_book_teaches_intolerance_xenophobia.php
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Possumpoint Donating Member (937 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 08:22 AM
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1. What Part Of Illegal Don't You Understand
Legal immigrants are a mainstay of this country. Though they haven't always been treated well or welcomed, for example, the Irish in the east and the Chinese in the west, they have assimilated into the history and make up of this country.

Illegals have come here regardless of their eligibility to enter this country. They have broke the law and need to leave or be removed. They can return to their country and enter into the legal process to immigrate to this country.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 08:28 AM
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4. Gosh, what an original comment.
But you forgot to put ILLEGAL into Caps!

My ancestors mostly came over legally--but it was lots easier back then. Show up at Ellis Island, pass a physical--welcome to the USA!

Immigrants become part of the USA--changing themselves (or their descendants) & changing the country in the process. But many have avoided "assimilation"--that is, aping bland WASPishness.

Hot House Flowers only thrive in an artificial setting. Let in a little fresh air & many of them die.

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 08:44 AM
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6. Indeed. nm
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Possumpoint Donating Member (937 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:21 AM
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10. You Just Don't Get It
The worst immigration policy ever was what the American Indians had in place. They'd been better off stopping every white man at the shore. Our American immigration policy has evolved over the years to today's status quo. From no rules to heavily regulated. Whether you like it or not, laws have been set up to govern immigration. They were established to control factors like disease and ethnic volume. Background checks are run to prevent those with criminal histories from entering. You may not like these laws. You should consider changing them before ignoring them.

There are some 11M to 20M illegals in this country. I personally have experienced depressed wages in a chosen profession because of their presence and willingness to accept lower wages. We have enough of a crime problem in this country. We don't need to import more or to allow it to walk across our borders.

Then there is the republican fear factor. How many terrorists have entered our country the same way? Anywhere from none to unknown.

As to your comments about "aping bland WASPishness" put them where the sun don't shine.

By the way, close the damn door, we aren't heating the world.















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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:01 AM
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12. Xenophobic RW talking points, then personal insults. Equally original.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 11:31 AM
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19. ....he said WASPishly.
Edited on Thu Nov-30-06 11:35 AM by Bridget Burke
Yes, I get it. I've heard it all before. Most of us have.

.... laws have been set up to govern immigration. They were established to control factors like disease and ethnic volume.

Well, I pointed out that my grandparents passed physical exams to get into the country. Sounds like a good policy.

But--please expand upon "ethnic volume."
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 08:39 AM
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5. Welcome and please post around a bit more
We'd like to hear your opinion about other subjects.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:14 AM
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9. Don't let the 'hey, let everyone in legal or otherwise' crowd
bully you. Next thing they'll try to tell you is that illegals have no affect on the wages or the American worker nor do they cost us anything by was of social programs or that the illegality of their entrance into the country shouldn't matter one damn bit. (Just because some of us are expected to obey the laws doesn't mean that should go for everyone now, should it?)

Illegal entry is okay because they're just driving down the wages of the blue collar workers and the manual laborers in this country (construction, landscaping, garbage collection, factory work). But now if you were a computer programmer or in the medical profession or any number of white collar professions and these guys came in on H-b(1) visas, well that would be a different story. There's a reason to get your shorts in a bunch.

Now, this is weird that this is a kid's book. I don't think it's going to get a lot of readers, the material seems rather dry for a child.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:17 AM
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13. Welcome to DU. Now, learn to speak Liberal. n/t
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:28 AM
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15. There's more than one dialect. n/t
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:23 AM
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14. Do you believe the fairy tale story of the Alamo?
You might do well educating yourself on what really happened. You might then realize that MANY Hispanics fought for the US at the Alamo. These people were landowners. After much of their blood was spilled, Americans sent them packing across the border--even though they were already citizens here. They took their houses and their land.
Knowing the history...and the fact that those brown people were American citizens at one time...how can you honestly say who is legal or illegal?
http://www.utexas.edu/utpress/books/florem.html
>>>>>>>snip
I discuss my understanding of modernity in chapter 1. Let me briefly state here that—particularly through its local inflection, what I call the Texas Modern—it references a series of economic changes, social processes, discursive articulations, and cultural forms that result in the transformation of Texas from a largely Mexican, cattle-based society into an industrial and agricultural social complex between 1880 and 1920. This transformation is at once creative and destructive, promising and debilitating, a "unity of disunity" (Berman 1982:15) that sets in motion forces of nationalism, post-Civil War politics, wage labor, bureaucratic rationalism, and the restructuring of racial and ethnic difference. It is here, in the cleavages and fissures of this transformation, that the Alamo is born. Modernity, while uneven and disparate as a social force, nonetheless serves as a periodizing frame to organize the material of this book. My focus on modernity and the Texas Modern more specifically is not undertaken in a causal manner. My thesis that the Alamo is part of the project of modernity does not in itself provide the specific ideological and practical articulations of the modern that serve as the unique or general developments from which the cultural memory of the Alamo arises. It is, in fact, the task of the pages ahead to do just that.

The Texas Modern, therefore, is both the social ground on which the Alamo enters into American cultural memory as well as the key analytic frame through which I interpret its various articulations. My decision on which expressive forms to investigate—memory, historiography, film, literature—has not been haphazard but has been influenced, in part, by the relative dearth of discussion on some forms and the vast material on others. In both cases, however, decisions on what to "include" and "exclude" emerged from the material itself. For example, that little has been written on the Alamo as a place in the built environment of San Antonio indicates how such a process seems a "natural" occurrence of everyday life. And yet, as I demonstrate in chapter 3, this process requires both the dissolution of one way of organizing space and its replacement by another. On the contrary, the vast historiographic writings on the Alamo, like the preponderance of films, indicate the continuing role the Alamo plays in the reproduction of a Texas and, more specifically, U.S. social imagination. I do not claim to have captured all facets of the Alamo; this was never my intent. Instead, my plan has been to rethink the Alamo, not as a place in history, but as a historical place made meaningful through the practices and ideologies of the Texas Modern. My objective has been to uncover the social conditions—those material and ideological practices and values—that serve as the fodder from which the very possibility of a place like the Alamo emerges in the social imagination of a people. Such a task requires that I first search the past for the various seedbeds that serve as the social "matter" for the formation of the Alamo; and second, once present, chart the various effects the Alamo, as a symbolic form, has had on the social landscape. Understanding the conditions that gave rise to the Alamo cannot ignore the equally necessary pursuit of analyzing how the emergence of this "master symbol" affected the lives of Mexicans and Mexican Americans. I conclude, therefore, that those who remember the Alamo in the early twentieth century do so not primarily to remember the events of 1836 but to re-member a social body through a specific hierarchical and class rubric endemic to the arrival of modernity in Texas. In effect, re-membering the Alamo as a site of cultural memory, as a sacred site in the pantheon of American public history, serves to hide the material social relations and conditions that require such sites in the first place. This process of re-membering has already stamped the Alamo as a naturally given icon of American cultural memory, leaving us to understand not its historical character but its "meaning." My reflections on the Alamo, as a symbolic form, follows a route directly opposite to that of its actual historical development, although I present events and actors from the past. The task of this book is to move backward from the "Alamo as given" to the historical and social conditions that serve as the necessary elements of its making and the work these elements achieve in the everyday world of social life.

Contemporary anthropological practice favors, rightly so, I believe, the portrayal of "cultural" groups as complex, historically specific entities that can no longer be discussed through reductive binaries such as those used here: "Anglo" or "Texan" and "Mexican." Such dichotomies, James Clifford (1988:23) warns, lead to the depiction of "abstract, ahistorical 'others.'" I agree. My usage of "Anglo" and "Mexican" is a necessary one, however, since what I am undertaking is a historical ethnography of the formation of "Angloness" and "Mexicanness" as categories of difference and power constructed through the making of the Alamo itself. I realize that historically specific social actors may or may not have subscribed to these terms and their particular ideologies even as the effects of their practical activity constituted the formation of historical modes of dominance and representation. Unlike contemporary ethnographic works that move from the binaries of cultural differences to the complexities of subject positions, Remembering the Alamo underscores the production of difference and the reification of identity achieved through the "making of the Alamo." My task, then, is, in the words of Akhil Gupta and James Ferguson (1992:16), a study of how the Alamo affected notions of cultural otherness through the "production of difference."

This book begins with a discussion of the Texas Modern, crucial to my overall argument about the Alamo as it is tied directly to this social formation. I see the "birth" of the Alamo as coterminous with the events of the Texas Modern, a begetting that provides representational and ideological fodder to this period.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 08:22 AM
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2. The Judge looks harmless enough, but then most fascists
...don't appear as devils on first examination do they.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 08:23 AM
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3. Who wants to be a Hot House Flower?
There are already some amusing reviews at Amazon. www.amazon.com/Hot-House-Flowers-John-Wilson/dp/1419643797/sr=1-1/qid=1164892545/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-6060729-8091140?ie=UTF8&s=books

And a few frightening ones, of course.


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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 08:47 AM
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7. A four-year-old needs to know about illegal immigration?
C'mon, at that age shouldn't he or she be focusing on international trade law? :sarcasm:

TlalocW
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 08:49 AM
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8. BookSurge is a vanity press. Funny that FAUX picked up on this title
which hasn't got any industry reviews--a very bad sign.

Here's their site for the non-believers: http://www.booksurgepublishing.com/

The self-proclaimed leader in "self-publishing" and "on-demand" publishing.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:26 AM
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11. The other is always scary - and we need to remember that
People who are different than us are probably threatening. People from outside our green house are scary.

Yep that's a universal lesson - but I kind of wish it weren't.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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susannej Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:46 AM
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16. Squashing the Dandelions

I shudder to think that Wilson sits on a courtroom bench and
supposedly adjudicates cases that call for maturity, sound
judgment, wisdom, intelligence, and a deep passion for and
understanding of justice.   
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 11:21 AM
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18. Hi susannej!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:53 AM
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17. Wait for the sequel: "Mother Dandelion and the Round-up Bottle"
Edited on Thu Nov-30-06 10:58 AM by Sabriel
Save me from vanity authors....

BTW, this book is strangely similar to the popular (?) Nazi children's book, Der Giftpilz (The Toadstool), which starts out warning children against the "poisonous toadstools" but then goes on to detail the dangers of Jews.

Take a look:

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/thumb.htm


(edited to add Nazi tie-in)
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