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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 08:58 PM
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George Carlin - Who Really Controls America
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:05 PM
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1. ONE!!! Must Watch! George Carlin tells it *EXACTLY* as it is!
Edited on Wed Nov-29-06 09:06 PM by Raster
Please, all hyperbole aside, this is some of Carlin's best. And don't expect to laugh, 'cause there ain't nothing funny about he's got to say! Very hard hitting and pulls no punches. Check it out.
:kick:ONE!
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:43 AM
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34. Alternate Link (info clear didn't work for me)
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:07 PM
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2. Great video
:thumbsup:
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 06:08 PM
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48. I've been watching out for more Carlin videos, but just seeing it again
- I'd seen and bookmarked a very slightly shorter version - was brilliant.
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spillthebeans Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:07 PM
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3. I thought it was the secret government clip
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:12 PM
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4. Carlin is a fucking GOD.



I love that man.



:patriot:



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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:17 PM
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5. No doubt about it, Carlin speaks the truth. n/t
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Leftist78 Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:20 PM
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6. Wonderful
Complete truth. No need to sugarcoat it for anyone. Joe bless George Carlin!!!
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:24 PM
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7. Carlin is great!
His comments are always dead on target.

I laughed aloud because of the way he said things, but could cry at what he was saying.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:44 PM
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15. Ain't that the truth?
Laughing and crying at the same time.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:25 PM
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8. The truth cranked up .... K&R!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:26 PM
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9. One more REC!!!!
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spillthebeans Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:29 PM
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10. here you have it
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:31 PM
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11. He is right and this is why I keep commenting about the best way to
protest is to without your cash. The sheeple do have the power to force change by withholding the cash.
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 11:34 PM
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22. I have said this since 1998
Go to my site and protest. Look in the signature.

Also look up Mitch McConnell at www.opensecrets.org and call his contributors and demand they tell Sen. McConnell not to use the filibuster and for Bush not to use the veto or you will never buy their products again.

Do not cooperate with antisocial Republicans or their contributors.

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Batgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:39 PM
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12. well worth a kick nt
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siligut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:43 PM
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13. Couldn't say it any better! K&R. eom
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 09:44 PM
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14. But I *do* have a choice, George Carlin!
Hmm...Coke or Pepsi?
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GenDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 10:10 PM
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16. Carlin is iconic
This one hits the nail on the head, and you're right there is nothing funny about it.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 10:30 PM
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17. KICK! Let's get this to The Greatest!
Edited on Wed Nov-29-06 10:33 PM by Raster
Please, let's keep this kicked. This IS worth watching.
:kick:
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political_outcast Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 10:36 PM
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18. I agree with Carlin, but he is saying this about dems AND GOP
it is the same old story. Everyone wants to say how bad things are cuz the bad guys are ruining everything. But no one wants to admit that they themselves are helping the bad guys.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 11:32 PM
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 10:59 PM
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19. K&R for Truth!
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 11:28 PM
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20. fucking A!
George really says it all, doesn't he?

:kick:
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 11:35 PM
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23. Straight truth
Wide awake here

K&R
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Lady Effingbroke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 11:47 PM
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24. George Carlin is a national treasure!
Oh, how I adore that man!

K n' R!!!
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 11:49 PM
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25. Thanks for the video. Sent it to a bunch of my Repug friends....
Good ol' George has a penchant for putting all out there with no BS. Gotta love him.

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QuestionAll... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 06:26 PM
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50. Did you really think Carlin was talking only about rePug politicians?
I don't think so...
I think you kinda missed the whole point of his rant...
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 11:51 PM
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26. Great!
Forwarded that around before. Can't be seen too much!
:rofl: :cry: :banghead: :hug:
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LeahD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 11:57 PM
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27. I think he's been reading Zinn, and he's steamed. n/t
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 11:58 PM
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28. Kick for Carlin!
:kick:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:07 AM
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29. Carlin in '08!
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:17 AM
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30. Now that is the short version of what every true Democrat should be saying every
time they get in front of a microphone or a camera. Lenny Bruce, Richard Pryor, George Carlin. Truthtellers.
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Anser Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 07:43 AM
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38. I was just thinking about this today
I realize comedy can be an effective tool, but I was thinking...

Where are our truth-tellers that are serious? Don't get me wrong, there are a few out there, but they just don't get the airtime (with the exception of maybe KO)

The right has so many media personalities that are just NOT joking around, not matter how laughable their positions usually seem. All the Fox/Right-wing radio people that are household names. Our Household names? Comedians for the most part.

I had this theory.
Progressives who are funny and brilliant go into entertainment, and occasionally comment on politics to advance their entertainment career.
Conservatives who are funny and brilliant go into politics, and occasionally use entertainment to advance their political career. (I know, this rare brilliant and funny conservative may seem a mythical beast, but examples could be Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Scalia. Also note I'm judging by society's standards, not my own. In that vein the argument could be made that * is another example)

Is this too Harsh?

I'd love to see some of these brilliant comedians stop joking around about such things as drug use (and perhaps stop using?) and get into the political arena, and use their charisma to affect some progressive change.

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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 04:28 PM
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45. Howard Zinn tells it like it is
(without the vulgarity)

See transcripts from Democracy Now!

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/24/1442258

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2833700&mesg_id=2833700


There is a lot of truthtelling on Democracy Now and FSTV - things like that. The non-corporate media venues. And they are getting a wider audience as more people figure out how little news they get from the Corporate Media.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:24 AM
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31. what an amazing guy
the truth
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:35 AM
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32. His latest album was pretty amazing stuff.
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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:41 AM
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33. nail on the head. Thanks, Proud!
:kick:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:10 AM
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35. I got to see him in person 35 years ago
I have never forgotten it.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 08:20 AM
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39. Thirty years ago, Celebrity Theatre, Phoenix, Arizona. He was filming
a movie. I'm in the film for a split-second during an audience shot as I gagged on my rum and coke. He was brilliant.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:13 PM
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41. Saw him do the seven censored words decades ago ...KICK
He hit the nail on the head.

:kick:
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:52 AM
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36. I love Carlin...and I actually got to meet him! I told him Thank You.
Here's another of his great bits:

Continuing our review of the language of the elected, it seems that, linguistically, politicians hit their truest stride when they find themselves in trouble. At times like these, the explanations typically begin with a single word: miscommunication.

"How do you answer these felony charges, Senator?"
"The whole thing was a miscommunication."
"But what about the tapes?"
"They took them out of context. They twisted my words."

Nice touch. A person who routinely spends his time bending and torturing the English language telling us that someone has twisted his words. But as the problem gets worse, and his troubles increase, he's forced to take his explanation in a new direction. He now tells us that "The whole thing has been blown out of proportion." And by the way, have you noticed with these blown-out-of-proportion people that it's always "the whole thing"? Apparently, no one has ever claimed that a only a small part of something has been blown out of proportion. But as time passes and the evidence continues to accumulate, our hero suddenly changes direction and begins using public-relations jujitsu. He says, "We're trying to get to the bottom of this. "We. Suddenly, he's on the side of the law. "We're trying to get to the bottom of this, so we can get the facts out to the American people." Nice. The American people. Always try to throw them in; it makes it sound as if you actually care.

As the stakes continue to rise, our hero now makes a subtle shift and says, "I'm willing to trust in the fairness of the American people. "Clearly, he's trying to tell us something: that there may just be a little fire causing all the smoke. But notice he's still at the I-have-nothing-to-hide stage.

But then, slowly, "I'm willing to trust in the fairness of the American people" progresses to "There is no credible evidence," and before long, we're hearing the very telling, "No one has proven a thing. "

Now, if things are on track in this drama, and the standard linguistic path of the guilty is being followed faithfully, "No one has proven a thing" will precede the stage when our hero begins to employ that particularly annoying technique: Ask-yourselfquestionsandthenanswer-them: "Did I show poor judgment? Yes. Was there inappropriate behavior? Yes. Do I wish this never happened? Of course. But did I break the law? That's not the issue."

The calendar is marching, however, and it soon becomes clear that our friend is most likely quite guilty, indeed. We know this, because he now shifts into that sublime use of the passive voice: mistakes were made. The beauty of mistakes were made is that it doesn't really identify who made them. You're invited to think what you wish. Bad advice? Poor staff work? Voodoo curse?

But it's too late. Mistakes were made quickly becomes eventually I will be exonerated, which then morphs into 1 have faith in the American judicial system, and the progression ends with that plaintive cry, whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty; well, he's about to find out.

Eventually, in full retreat (and federal custody), he shuffles off in his attractive orange jumpsuit, and can be heard muttering that most modern of
mea culpas: "Ijust want to put this thing behind me and get on with my life." And to emphasize how sincere he is, he announces, "I'm taking responsibility for my actions." How novel! Imagine; taking responsibility. He says it as though it were a recently developed technique. Whenever I hear that sort of thing on the news, I always want to ask one of these I'm-taking-responsibility-for-my-actions people whether or not they'd be willing to take responsibility for my actions. You know, gambling debts, paternity suits, outstanding warrants. Can you help me out here, pal?

Regarding this whole put-this-thing-behind-me idea in general, here's what I'd like to do. I'd like to put this I-wanttoputthisthingbehindmeandgetonwithmy-life thing behind me and get on with my life. May I repeat that for you? I'd like to put this I-wanttoputthisthingbehindmeandgetonwithmy-life thing behind me and get on with my life.

I think one of the problems in this country is that too many people are screwing things up, committing crimes and then getting on with their lives. What is really needed for public officials who shame themselves is ritual suicide. Hara-kiri. Like those Japanese business executives who mismanage corporations into bankruptcy. Never mind the lawyers and the public relations and the press conferences, get that big knife out of the kitchen drawer and do the right thing.
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 04:11 AM
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37. One of my heroes. Always telling it like it is. Thanks. n/t
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amb123 Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:52 AM
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40. K & R! Leave it to George Carlin
Edited on Thu Nov-30-06 09:53 AM by amb123
. . . to put things in their proper perspective. He is the greatest social commentator of all time. Period.

:patriot: :yourock: :rant: :grouphug:
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:49 PM
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42. He needs more airtime. This is so bullseye.
Why don't more people get it!
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 03:03 PM
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43. I showed this to my students in a very conservative county in a very red state
Most had no clue who Carlin was, and I was worried that the college might not like this kind of material in the classroom...

As it turned out, the students loved it, the college had no problem with it, and now it'll be a regular part of the class (it's a public speaking class.)

Newsprism
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 04:41 PM
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46. What do you think would have happened if Carlin said "Republican" instead of "Rich"?
The aspect of Carlin's rant that should be noted is that he artfully dodged the typical Democrat-Republican divide by simply stripping labels off and describing the situation using other descriptors. Instead of "Republicans" out to get your Social Security, he substitutes "rich" instead, thereby sidestepping any mental conditioning that people ascribe to either name or party. By doing this, he also sidestepped any mental defenses Republicans may have put up if they thought their party was being attacked by Carlin.
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Buck Turgidson Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 03:31 PM
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44. Nice rant by Carlin, but...,
Edited on Thu Nov-30-06 03:32 PM by Buck Turgidson
for the last twenty years George has struck me as kinda cranky. Mostly pontificating about why you should think like he does or you are stupid. Spare me the lectures, humor is more effective, ie John Stewart.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 05:59 PM
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47. One word. But not for a family forum. I'm glad you brought it up
Edited on Thu Nov-30-06 06:05 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
though, as one or two DUers were whingeing along the same lines, yesterday, as if all points of view, all analyses of the political realities are of equal validity.

Well let me tell you they're not. For instance, Clark's version of "Bring it on!" is much more poetic and strirring than Bush's. When the neocons are finally given the bum's rush, Clark'll be there, to show them how it should have been done.
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Minnesota_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 06:11 PM
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49. Howard Beale lives!!!!!!
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 08:57 PM
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51. "The real owners, the big wealthy business interest that control things
and make all the important decisions."


Word.

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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:02 PM
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52. k & r
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