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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 10:28 AM
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Poll question: Would you support the government commandeering plans for an alternative energy source?
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 10:32 AM by The Backlash Cometh
Let's assume that the dark forces that have been in control of some very bad decisions in this country knew about a scientist who, many years ago, had a break-through and had discovered an alternative energy source. Let's just presume, like the Tucker story, that evil prevailed and that the public never benefited from the break-through because dark forces wanted that information out of the public domain because it would have competed with the dominance of the oil corporatist and oil-rich provinces (which at one time included Texas).

Now, we're entering into a new era. It will be everything the Republicans hate because they lose their edge and their opportunity for profit once the public knows as much as they do about inside information. I shall call this new era, the Renaissance of Information and Science. There will be new openness in government, and we'll get to see not just what has passed in the Bush II years, but what has gone on before. Whistle blowers will also be welcomed, and lets say one of those Whistle blowers turns into a hero and tells us that there was a discovery for an alternative energy source, but the dark forces that controlled government hushed the discovery and hushed the scientist. Now, we come to learn, the discovery is buried deep in patent laws owned by the greediest of corporations, and where it was once an American corporation, it is now a multi-national corporation with some very powerful people in control.

Would you at this point, approve of a state-sanctioned take-over of the papers to benefit mankind?
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don954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 10:34 AM
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1. patents and IP are meant to promote tech
not stifle it, if someone is using IP law to stifle tech that the public needs so desperately, they are violating the spirit of the law and therefore shouldn't have any protections. I also think we should put "use it or loose it" laws on the books for IP, so that works that are no longer supported and the manufactures wont sell will loose their protections.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 10:40 AM
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2. How far is the reach of American patent laws?
With all this outsourcing, and burgeoning Asian countries, it's time we realize that not just our jobs are going overseas, but also the markets. The new consumers of this century, are not here in America, but over there in India and China. Thus, greedy Carlyle types would gladly throw their allegiance to a Global corporation to protect their income, and actually, still live quite well here in the U.S. as the dollar crashes.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 10:41 AM
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3. Cold fusion, I wouldn't be surprised if it does work.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 10:44 AM
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4. Not unless I thought it was the last discovery America would ever need
Once it becomes known that the government may simply intervene and steal the results of your research, most of the incentive for non-academic bodies to do such research goes.

As such, the government shouldn't do this unless it felt that the energy source was more important that all the other technological breakthroughs that would come out of the private sector if it wasn't discouraged in this way; I find it hard to believe that would be the case.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:44 PM
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5. But think about what we know about our government today.
What if the dark forces that Eisenhower and Roosevelt tried to warn us about used the government to stifle this information? The government would now only be doing a good deed today by stealing it back for the public use? If we could find the scientist most responsible for its discovery, we could also reward him or his descendants quite handsomely. Think about it. That scientist, or his descendants, would only be getting what they should have gotten in the first place. Recognition for their discovery and a just profit.

OR, what happened if the scientist took the money from the corporation and walked away. He's no longer a factor in the formula.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:28 PM
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6. Get government out of it all!
For years now the government has completely controlled an alternative source that I want to use to produce electricity, and I think they oughtta just back away and let me have it!

I want my own nuke plant. Just a small one, mind you. Why won't they let me, or you, have one? Eh?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:42 PM
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8. I think that if private forces abused government power to gain control
of the information, then it should be public interest using government power to get it back.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:35 PM
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7. ITER or Dr. Robert Bussard
Is $200 million (not billion) worth ending dependency on fossil fuel? Apparently the U.S. government cannot organize itself well enough to manage the development due to inter-agency feuding.
This video deserves more attention : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=199632184667378...

More easily disseminated info here: http://pesn.com/2005/11/02/9600199_Focus_Fusion/

The technology is there. Much shorter development time than ITER. The video is a must watch.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:44 PM
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9. I hope it is that easy. Get someone with vision into office.
Someone who understands that finite resources don't just mean higher profit in the short run for the person owning that resource, but doom for us all in the long run once it's gone.
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