seismic shifts occuring

[whosinpower]

Just my take on the matter....
But consider this-

Israel is now ready to negotiate a peace process.
The White House is shifting/squirming under increasing pressure to do something about the"sectarian/civil war" now occuring in Iraqi soil.

I can't help but think that these things are connected. The US will be pulling out of Iraq. Mark my words. I can feel it in my bones. There is something in the air.....something that has everything to do with the recent elections where you all told Bush how you feel.

The neocons/Project of the New American Century are abandoning their grand plan. I feel it. Do you?

[katty]

1. yup, methinks that will be happening as well...darth cheney in

begging the Saudi kings to 'help us' pleeeezzzzeeee-giving up his precious fly fishing on a holiday-things are real bad at the D.C. ranch.

[enid602]

2. Thanks

Just as conservatives once tried to label Carter as the one who gave away the Canal, all Americans will remember Bush as the one who gave away the Middle East. Not that it was ever (nor should it have been) ours, but any goodwill or influence we had in the ME is now pissed away. Thanks, Georgie.

[happydreams]

3. Bigger still...

We may witness a collapse of US involvment in the Mid-East. Israel could well be overrun and obliterated.

Bush will try to hang onto power like the pig-headed megalomaniac he is until he is forced to flee to Paraguay.

Personally I think we should have abandoned Israel decades ago. Something like 1/3rd of our foreign aide goes to this country that never should have been formed the way it was in the first place.

[pretzel4gore]

12. after the holcaust; you can't blame jewish people

for wanting israel to be resurrected...but i agree that israel shouldn't have been set up the way it was. still, i's doubtful any scenerio wouldn't have caused vast displacement of the 'natives' (the palestinians) with all that we see (perhaps ben gurion etc thought through all this; thought there was no way but to grab the 'brass ring' while global remorse over the holocaust was still fresh)...
too bad israel couldn't have been set up in bavaria(?) or something, which the arabs would have supported whole heartedly....but why cry over spilt milk? the only solution is to incorporate a jewish israel into the middle east community, and that was well on its way to being done (even with all the setbacks) up until bush junyer began his bull in china shop nonsense)

[Flabbergasted]

4. Nope! Just some reorganization.

[Flabbergasted]

7. Lebanon is undergoing a meltdown. Syria will not allow the UN tribunal

to continue unabated. Huge Hezbollah protests were planned for today.

This is extremely relevent.

[whistle]

5. Correct Dubya is squeezing one off while Dick Cheney is shifting

...his butt cheeks to pass gas. PNAC is not being abandoned by the neo-cons it is being word-smithed and revamped for reimplementation.

The evil must be dealt with deliberately and decisively or it will rise again even more aggressively.

[FogerRox]

9. Whistle a true tune...

THe PNAC need for the us to be in Iraq in 6-7 years, when world oil production falls below demand. Same goes for the Council on Foriegn Relations. They want the US to use its military to secure oil reserves for this scenario. THe Neo Cons & the PNAC knew about Peak Oil back in the 1970's.

[seabeyond]

6. i never watch news. i have had on all day and am in and out. what i see

is the talk of civil war and time to pull out,..... and all kinds of ways saying it. it is like thru the vote of the american people, without dems even having been placed in office, it is done. now all it is the rhetoric catching up with the movement.

[Nimrod2005]

8. Of course, add: both the US and Israel struggled (putting it nicely) militarily on the ground

to put up with an occupation...No country can take over land and just sit there, day in day out.

Yes, it is all related.


P.S. Referring to Israel's recent thing with Hizabllah....

[MichiganVote]

10. Peace process in the ME isn't worth the paper its printed on

[opihimoimoi]

13. But we tried everything else.........including WAR.....

[datadiva]

11. I don't think so

It just means they are going to go underground for awhile and sneak around making future plans to ruin the globe and take every last resource with them. Scum of the earth that they are.

[madokie]

14. pnac is just changing their name, same format though

[BuyingThyme]

15. No.

[MoseyWalker]

16. I will never lose my "paranoia" about these shits

they have been doing what they have been doing for over 30 years. They are not going to stop. Remember, they own the media.

They own the media.