My "Nader" thread was deleted;

[Ron Green]

or at least I suppose it was because I said that "Nader was right" (which he was, of course, in that both big parties are bought and paid for, and therein lies the problem), but more importantly I was trying to make the point that most observant people knew that Bush would be appointing a couple of SC justices, and the fact that this guy is a right-winger should be absolutely no surprise.

People are so upset about Nader that they often forget that true progressivism is found more and more outside the Democratic Party.

[MelissaB]

1. You started a thread just like the one that was deleted?

[leftstreet]

4. rofl

[LeftNYC]

7. hehheeh nt

[Ron Green]

13. Nah... it wasn't a Nader thread anyway. It was sort of a fatalistic one,

that simply asked people to acknowledge that the Big Tent is a raggedy thing, easily pricked and torn by a focused fear-mongering force of funamentalists and Neo-cons. The only hope for the Democratic Party is a strong, progressive voice; where the hell is it?

[GreenPartyVoter]

2. I really wish more people would throw themselves into election reform.

It's as good a place as any to channel rage and frustration over the junta's actions.

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How about some freakin’ election reform already?!

[jfern]

3. Except Nader was obviously wrong

When he said that the Supreme Court wouldn't depend on who won the Presidency.
Is Nader going to claim that Gore or Kerry would have nominated Alito?

[wookie294]

9. The Dems voted to confirm Justice Scalia

The Senate vote was 98 to zero. Ted Kennedy voted to confirm Scalia. Many Dems also voted in favor of Justice Thomas. LOL. I remember it well.

[wookie294]

5. I'm not personally depressed or anything

I agree with you about Nader. I'm not surprised the Senate Dems didn't vote our way, just as a Naderite would have predicted, so I'm not depressed about today's travesty. This is nothing new.

[LittleClarkie]

6. Generally threads about deleted threads will also be deleted

And do you agree that Kerry and Bush are the same? After what Kerry just tried to do, I don't see how you could.

Ralph can kiss my grits.

[MercutioATC]

8. No, we're upset because Nader is an ass.

...an egotistical ass, at that.

[LittleClarkie]

14. Would that be an ass hat or an ass clown

Enquiring minds want to know.

[democracyindanger]

10. During periods of high traffic

obnoxious, pointless "I told you so" threads from Nader cultists are turned off.

[Ron Green]

17. I'm not a "Nader cultist" and I did make a couple of points.

[MADem]

11. Are you sure it was deleted, or did it just sink like a stone?

I don't care what that tired old asshole millionaire with a 'piss in the cheerios' complex thinks. He can take his nasty suits and ugly ass shoes and leave the public stage, for all I care. Nader is a fringe KOOK, who will never get more than a percent or two of the vote, from fools who like to throw their vote away with a lame idea that they are making a difference, when all they are doing is marginalizing their own importance, and providing a great opportunity for GOP vote tampering to occur.

He is IRRELEVANT. And he always will be, the silly old coot. His time came and went. He could have made a difference by throwing his weight behind the critical mass, and working for change from within, but instead, he preferred to crap in the punch. Way to go, Ralphie! Ya putz!

[Ron Green]

19. It may have sunk; I couldn't find it due to "my posts" being turned off.

[NoPasaran]

12. Before this thread gets deleted

Fuck Nader and fuck every ass who is STILL making excuses for voting for that fucking fucktard in 2000.

"True progressivism?" FUCK YOU!

[Ron Green]

15. Well, that's nice talk, but if you notice - the Dems in the Senate didn't

do such a hot job today.

[Skidmore]

18. So that somehow absolves Nader of his egomaniacal

belief that he's the Messiah?

[Ron Green]

25. I'm not trying to absolve Nader of anything. I simply stated that his

assertion that both parties are beholden to big interests was true. Christ, all the whining and defeatism elsewhere on this board dwarfs the simple point I was making, but Nader is evidently a REALLY sore subject around here still.

[William769]

28. Heres a thiught go praise nader at one of his discussion boards.

If there are any.

[RiffRandell]

33. Agreed!

Great post!

[Inland]

16. Nader was right there's no difference between Gore and Bush.

Oh, wait, that was the lie part. Never mind.

[GreenArrow]

23. maybe what Nader meant to say

was that there was no difference between Bush and Lieberman.

[emulatorloo]

27. maybe what Nader meant to say is 'I am a Republican Tool!' EOM

[Inland]

30. Yeah, that's only mostly wrong.

But I'm sure that someone will argue that Nader had to stop Gore to prevent Lieberman, and tell me how silly it is that Nader should help Gore to prevent Bush.

I mean, here we are looking at what happens when one loses elections, and some still won't get it.

[mac56]

20. Who's gloating? Naderites.

Who else? Republicans.
Who's not? Democrats.

One of these things is not like the others....

[Inland]

26. Of course they are.

Not because they were right, but because they are thrilled to see democrats lose to republicans so that they can pretend to be the only alternatives.

It's hardly a secret that the nader fans and third party members want things to get a lot worse, on the concept that at that time there will be a realignment and the dems will be left out. They worked to make things worse in 2000, and they are seeing the fruit. It's all good for them.

[wookie294]

29. I believe Nader publicly opposed the Alito nomination

I don't think Naderites are happy about Alito's confirmation.

[PassingFair]

32. I don't blame them. Our own party just sold us down the river.

Again.

I am beyond sad.
Beyond mad.

[Neil Lisst]

21. Nader = Bush's best buddy. He's a traitor.

Nader sold out, took money from the right, and let them run his anti-Gore ads.

Screw him and screw his advocates.

[stlsaxman]

22. Maybe you should have noticed the title of this forum- GD: Alito

The other GD Forum is for "Everything Else", even posts about Nader. Hence the title of the forum. Had you posted it there you may not have had it deleted. Just a thought.

[Ron Green]

31. That's the funny part. The post wasn't about Nader.

It simply advised people to Relax, the Plan is working. Fascism is coming, and as long as a majority of Democrats in the Senate are willing to go along, we have only one party.

[emulatorloo]

24. DU does not exist for you to recruit for Ralph Nader or Third Parties

Many Dems stood up today, and neither Pres Gore or Pres Kerry would have nominated a Sam Alito. So Please, enough with samesame bullshit.

[Moderator]

34. Locking

Continuing a locked thread is against the rules

[Moderator]

35. Or deleted thread

[Moderator]

36. Locking

See above.