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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 02:59 PM Original message |
The Libertarian Threat |
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baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. Liberty becomes meaningless... |
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Lefta Dissenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. OK, so my Libertarian partner is having a fit here... |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Progressives do not think it is right to let people starve |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 07:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
31. I just heard a heartbreaking story about hospitals in L.A. that are |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 07:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Yes indeed |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
42. It must suck having all of those suspiciously stained copies of "Atlas Shrugged"... |
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Lefta Dissenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 09:28 AM Response to Reply #42 |
55. wow, that was nice... |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. I had a libertarian tell me that as a public school teacher, I am a drain on his taxes. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 03:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Yes. That is exactly what capital-"L" Libertarianism is all about. (nt) |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 08:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
38. Most Libertarians are greedy f**ks just like Republicans. |
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Chichiri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 03:17 PM Original message |
Libertarians = Anarchists who want police protection from their slaves. |
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Sammy Pepys (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
3. While conservatism and libertarianism are close cousins... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. I welcome all libertarians into the 'big tent.' |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. They're welcome to join the tent. Just don't pull up the tent poles and burn 'em, is all. |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. fuck the big tent. I am sick of that stupid and ridiculous metaphor |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:12 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. I am sick of ill-informed, knee jerk responses. |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 07:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Projection Sustained! |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 08:11 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. "Wow there was precisely nothing of substance in your response." - Projecting again? |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:49 AM Response to Reply #36 |
51. This is the only question I want you to answer: |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 06:29 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. It's hard to debate with someone who asks questions then answers them for me. |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Another explanation |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. nothing? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
7. that seems to be the new talking point on du. if opposed to society |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 04:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. I'm glad the debate has come to this, very glad |
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warrens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
8. Libertarians generally are already rich |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Not really... |
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Lefta Dissenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. OK, excuse me, but... |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
9. I don't have any dispute with personal liberty... |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 03:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Good point, and I should have made that clear |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. I'd be inclined to agree with you but for the efficiency of the corporate media. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 04:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. This is still the public sphere you're talking about, |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 05:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Where to draw the lines, though? |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 05:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I think people should be as well-armed as the police, |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. There are some folks down the road from me I hope don't have a SWAT wagon, |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 07:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. My real opinion is that police should only be as well-armed |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:02 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. You and I have similar philosophies, in this at least, Jed. n/t |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
15. liberty from the drugs war nazis, |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 04:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Excellent: call them what they are. |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. The perps of the drugs war rot in hell |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
35. Bravo.... |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
17. They're Not So Libertarian When Halliburton Comes Looking for a few $Billion |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
21. The Libertarians have a faulty understanding about the nature of Capitalism and property. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:42 AM Response to Reply #21 |
43. They claim to be against violence-- |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
25. My brother is a Libertarian |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 05:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. There was a time when Libertarianism was in force |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 07:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. You saved me some typing. Thanks. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. We tried that before and had CHILDREN working in factories |
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557188 (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
37. The truth |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
39. The Libertarian party is different from political libertarianism |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:26 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Good point, "libertarian" used to be a synonym of Anarcho-Socialist. |
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personman (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 06:41 AM Response to Reply #44 |
53. Indeed. |
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:34 AM Response to Original message |
45. no reason liberals shouldn't acknowledge and co-opt the good parts of libertarianism. nt |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:40 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Exactly! |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
46. more libertarians help Dems |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:41 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Yes, indeed! |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:59 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Hey swampy! |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:02 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. See post #7 |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
54. Anarchy? |
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leftupnorth (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
57. We need to dump these unambiguous labels for our ideology, you can be a libertarian and a liberal |
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