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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:37 PM Original message |
Farmers markets help the poor to eat better & local agriculture to survive |
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Richard D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. Why flamed? |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Oh, I think it's a GREAT idea. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 06:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Posts that criticize the overweight or imply that it's not |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 06:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. No, I'm talking about flames directed at people who dared suggest... |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. It's a great idea. Heck, I think people who get WIC or food stamps |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:28 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. I consider myself an extreme lefty |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
38. The problem with that limitation is |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
37. flames |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. It boggles the mind. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
56. I remember those threads. Good post, btw |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. I love buying produce directly from local farmers. - n/t |
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lastknowngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
4. You are correct that is why the corps have to destroy them. Remember |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 06:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. and by paving over farmland, we "move" ourselves farther |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. will they use the genetically modified foods.. |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 06:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. No, this is for farmers market produce. |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
7. K&r |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
9. correct, at least they are given that option of produce so fresh it often... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 02:08 AM Response to Original message |
13. You are delusional if you think that the effects of this-- |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 02:42 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. With all due respect.... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 03:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I thought it was very plain |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 05:02 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. who said proper diet is about making fat people thin? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 05:14 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. "Normal" is totally unachievable by most fat people |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 05:35 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. So you're saying, |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. No, I'm saying what you should focus on is what you have control over |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:48 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Excuse me, but you are full of it |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 09:20 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. not true... |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:16 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Simple comparison, the rest of the world to the US |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. You left out yo-yo dieting |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. well you are just wrong about that |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. Look at America! |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. For every person who has gone from 300 to 130 |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:49 PM Response to Reply #30 |
51. I suppose that you missed my whole qualifier |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. This particular "condition" affects one in three adults |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 07:51 AM Response to Reply #62 |
72. Well, first off, Syndrome X isn't in and of itself a disease, |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 08:55 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. But your example shows that 'less fat' is indeed healthier |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. No, it does not |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. you make a generalization based on one example. nt |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Nowhere in that story or in my post did I say that. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. True, but the conclusion that the typical media-indoctrinated American |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. That's not the conclusion AT ALL. |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. There is NOTHING IN THIS STORY that says that!! |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:28 PM Response to Reply #42 |
59. I think the very suggestion that some food choices are healthier than others |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:47 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Talk about thin-skinned, homongous chip on the shoulder... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:52 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. That isn't what makes me angry |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:56 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Again, THAT IS NOT MENTIONED AT ALL IN THIS THREAD |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 09:39 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Oh really? Check the OP |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:02 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. No, she knows that the poor can usually only afford to buy crap food. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:34 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Why did the OP even mention obesity, then? |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:10 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Oh good god. Because obesity is the number one indicator of a poor diet in this country. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:49 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. No, it isn't Not at all. |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:32 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Yes, it IS. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:19 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. No, most people are obese because of genetic VARIANTS |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. You are completely delusional. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:54 AM Response to Reply #75 |
80. You asked for a direct quote. Here it is. |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:59 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Yes, you are delusional. That in NO WAY advocates what you say. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:27 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. If you want to talk nutrition, don't mention obesity, period |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:33 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Hey guess what: You don't get to tell me what I can talk about. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 01:59 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Just pointing out the consequences of mentioning obesity when-- |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:25 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Oh, bullshit. There are no "consequences" to the use of a single word... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:54 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Just saying she will have a lot better luck with her clients-- |
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distantearlywarning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:22 AM Response to Reply #65 |
73. This argument reminds me: |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:48 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. No, the original article cited does NOT indicate that. |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:50 AM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Can't show "healthy" on TV |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 02:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. It will make them healthy |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Not your goal, or the program founder's goal-- |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:24 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. No, it isn't. You can't project YOUR ideas onto this. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:31 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. My negativity is not at all directed toward the program-- |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. And that has exactly WHAT to do with this thread? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
78. Whaaat? |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
20. Farmer's Markets are FANTASTIC and everyone should purchase their |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 08:58 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I love the farmers market!!! |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. they're way too expensive |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Couple of things. |
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Mr. McD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
46. I buy all my produce at farmers markets |
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momzno1 (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
47. go, go, farmer's markets nt |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
48. They're booming in East and West Oakland |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:02 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Oakland is proof that access is the issue for urban low income people. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. And don't forget community gardens |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. They're great too. |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
50. California has had this program for 5+ years |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Yup. The Hollywood Farmers Market always has a table set up... |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
55. My only problem with Farmers Markets.... |
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CabalPowered (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
58. I would've starved in college w/o the farmers' market |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
61. Another great urban program |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
74. Check out CSA - Community Supported Agriculture |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
79. Farmer's Markets help EVERYONE eat better: fresh and CHEAP ORGANIC |
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