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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:46 PM
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"Hispanic Family Values" - Most Disgusting Piece I've Read
Edited on Wed Nov-15-06 12:53 PM by Maat
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Hispanic Family Values?
Heather Mac Donald

Runaway illegitimacy is creating a new U.S. underclass.

Unless the life chances of children raised by single mothers suddenly improve, the explosive growth of the U.S. Hispanic population over the next couple of decades does not bode well for American social stability. Hispanic immigrants bring near–Third World levels of fertility to America, coupled with what were once thought to be First World levels of illegitimacy. (In fact, family breakdown is higher in many Hispanic countries than here.) Nearly half of the children born to Hispanic mothers in the U.S. are born out of wedlock, a proportion that has been increasing rapidly with no signs of slowing down. Given what psychologists and sociologists now know about the much higher likelihood of social pathology among those who grow up in single-mother households, the Hispanic baby boom is certain to produce more juvenile delinquents, more school failure, more welfare use, and more teen pregnancy in the future.

The government social-services sector has already latched onto this new client base; as the Hispanic population expands, so will the demands for a larger welfare state. Since conservative open-borders advocates have yet to acknowledge the facts of Hispanic family breakdown, there is no way to know what their solution to it is. But they had better come up with one quickly, because the problem is here—and growing.

http://www.city-journal.org/html/16_4_hispanic_family_values.html
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I research rightwing websites for a project I'm working on; this is one of the most disgusting pieces I've come to read. As a retired social worker, I've got to wonder: (1) is this author a disgusting racist; and, (2) is she connected with the reality of most families face at all?

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:47 PM
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1. Myabe the author is really Dr. Laura??
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:48 PM
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3. Maybe so, GPV (n/t).
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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:50 PM
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4. I was thinking Michelle Malakin
but somewhere along those lines. ;)
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:47 PM
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2. Maybe some of these mothers should practice birth control or have abortions, eh?
or, wait, no, that would be wrong...
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:51 PM
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6. Well, as long as their religion outlaws it, they'll just have to have as
many kids as the man of house wants.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:54 PM
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9. wasn't so much going for the religious aspect, but that is a factor too
just the hypocricy of conservatives to try to ban and/or discourage any form of birth control, while then attacking Hispanics for having high birth rates (which to me sounds like a load of shit anyway).

I live in the midwest, and its quite common for white families to have three, four, or five children...
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:52 PM
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7. Exactly.
If I had a penney for every house I'd visited affected by a certain situation, I'd be rich. The parents-grandparents were usually working several jobs each; the teenager had to spend most of the time alone. The teenager only survived emotionally due to the companionship of her "boyfriend." That provided her only sense of normalcy. Inevitably, she would become pregnant. Then everyone around her would be telling her that planned pregnancy and abortion were always wrong. These were not the people who had to live with the consequences one way or another. These judgmental people were not the sort to care about the taxpayers picking up the cost of a "million-dollar baby," a baby born addicted to the drugs many used to just get through the day, during which they were never given a break by the System.

Sorry, end-of-rant.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:50 PM
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5. Murka IS a Third World nation ever since the BushCo regime took power.
<<Hispanic immigrants bring near–Third World levels of fertility to America>>

This author really is tasteless.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:54 PM
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8. Exactly.
And also a stomach-churning bigot.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:56 PM
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10. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT ONLY HISPANICS LIVED IN MISSISSIPPI
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:58 PM
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11. Well golly
Just lookie who is on the Publication Committee for the City Journal!

Publication Committee

William J. Bennett
Eugene D. Brody
Charles H. Brunie
Anthony P. Coles
Michael J. Fedak
Peter M. Flanigan
H. Dale Hemmerdinger
Roger Hertog
Steven Klinsky
Myron Magnet
Lawrence J. Mone
Peggy Noonan
James Piereson
Robert Rosenkranz
Nathan E. Saint-Amand
Paul E. Singer
Thomas J. Tisch
Dietrich Weismann
Byron Wien
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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:03 PM
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14. That figures!
the article sounds like something that Bennett would be associated with.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:05 PM
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15. I didn't see THAT!
Good research!
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:17 PM
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17. City Paper
...is a publication of the Manhattan Institute:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Manhattan_Institute

There's all kinds of familiar names on that page. :)
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:18 PM
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18. Why am I not surprised? Thanks (n/t).
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:28 PM
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19. The Manhattan Institute is the new Eugenics Society. n/t
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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:00 PM
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12. It gets worse.
This "article"(for lack of a better word) not only oversimplifies issues and bends the truth in order to push the authors agenda, but it shows a *huge* lack of knowledge about the latino community. I have never met *anyone* who has had a child by an uncle, let alone where their parents were fine with it. That is just disgusting.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:02 PM
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13. I'm sorry but I I don't see any racist bias here
I see facts. Many parts of the country, including areas in Northern Virginia, are living with the social consequences of this boom in population. From the violent gang deaths that become ever more frequent in the Hispanic community in my county, to the drain on what little social services we have, the consequences of single parent families of poor Hispanics are prevalant. And I'm not one of these anti-immigrant people at all, I like my Hispanic neighbors. There are many good Hispanic families that hold the fabric of the community together. There are also many young Hispanic men out there looking for trouble. We never had so many murders in my community (most all of them Hispanic gang-related) as we've had this year.

I think the author encourages people to face the facts and try to address the issue, not condemn the culture of the people where the problem is.
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Spangle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 02:18 PM
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20. I don't agree
You said it, but ignored it. It's not the 'hispanic' part of the equation. It isn't even the 'immgrant' part of it. It's the 'poor' part of it. What all you mentioned, you can replace 'hispanic' and put something else in there. It's also the 'teen rebel' issue.

Same thing with gangs. There are many more then just 'hispanic' gangs out there. Pick a group, they got them. Whitie has the 'KKK' that use to keep a tight grip on the south. In some places, many people still are afraid of them. If I was guessing, I would say they are our longest surving 'gang' here in USA. Longer then the 'Mofia".

As far as the article goes, they blame the birth rate on beign 'hispanic' from third worlds. Hmmm... That stating the case is 'race' related. When it's really 'religan' related. These folks are coming from a country where they still follow the 'Pope' when it comes to such things. Americans tend to ignore the "Pope' when it comes to using BC. But that didn't happen over not. And that has nothing to do with their 'race' or skin tone. Mormans, no matter the skin tone or 'race' also believe in big familys. Nothing 'hispanic' about that. White seperatist have a fear of Whitie becomeing obsolete, and are encourging their members to over populate. Nothing 'hispanic' about that. LOL!

I also live in a very multi-cultural area of the USA. Since I have kids, you really get to know others. <wink> Our area is so multi-cultured, that it becomes a 'non-issue' and nothing to be upset about when 'jokes' are said about each others cultures when with friends. It's comments like 'You know how my Mom is" or "How my family is", etc. Which is why when I read the lead into this article posted here, I couldn't believe what I was hearing. It's NOTHING like the hispanic leaning familys I know about.

I see familys more 'family related'. Parents who 'hang on' to their kids longer. And keep more 'control' over their kids longer. Raising the children is FAMILY and I mean extended family job. Aunts, Uncles, etc. And help the youngesters get on their feet.

But just like ALL fmailys, things don't always work out. Single parent house holds are hard. Even if the other parent is paying child support. It's harder to control the teens. Everthing is harder when your stressed to the max. And WE all live in a culture where teens can get away from the Parents, and there isn't really a dang thing parents can do about it. In this problem .. it's not skin color. It's not about RACE (which there really isn't such a thing). It's not about religan.' And sometimes, it's not even about being the best parent, or even a rich parent. Kids get wrapped up with the wrong crowd at times. Alot of times the 'bad crowd' looks cool when a child is going through their VERY NORMAL rebel stage. Sadly, when they get wrapped up in it, it ruins their life and their familys.
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Beausoleil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:11 PM
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16. "the Hispanic baby boom"
Maybe these quiverfools will give the Hispanics a run for their money:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2714369

I'm sure they will all produce families of 11 or more well adjusted, contributing members of society.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 03:24 PM
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22. Uh ... NOT!!
HeeHee.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 02:25 PM
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21. So, now we have the "Brown Baby Menace"? EEEK!!!
What happened to the "Yellow Peril"? The "Red Menace"? "The Millennium Bug?" The "Falling Dominoes in SE Asia"

Or how about those great American values "Irish need not apply", "Sundown Laws", "Japanese Internment Camps", etc.

All to protect us from the evil furriners.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 03:26 PM
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23. Exactly.
I welcome immigrants; they are most often very hardworking, moral people. I believe we have to make sure, however, that every worker in the U.S. is paid a fair wage (that is where our attention should be focused).
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