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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 03:37 PM
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James Carville is on a one-man mission to destroy the Democratic Congress.
Stoopid Freaking James Carville
by Jerry 101
Sun Nov 12, 2006 at 12:21:34 PM PST
James Carville is on a one-man mission to destroy the Democratic Congress.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/12/152134/64

So, today's feature story in the Tribune is on Rahm Emmanuel. The Tribune had a reporter shadowing Rahm for months now with the understanding that nothing would be written until after the election. Right at the beginning of the story is this:


Rahm Emanuel was seething.

He was hurtling down an asphalt road in upstate New York on the 47th trip of his ferocious campaign to win back the House. A lecture, even from political consultant James Carville, was the last thing he needed.

In just 12 days, his campaign would end in a historic victory--a triumph that almost no one believed possible when he took the job nearly two years ago--or in colossal failure.

And here were Carville and pollster Stan Greenberg telling him he had to make each of his handpicked candidates shift from attack mode and strike a conciliatory note in their final campaign ads.

"James. No James, YOU LISTEN," Emanuel barked into a cell phone, about to release a string of profane invectives more intense than usual. "Can you listen for one (expletive) minute? I'm working these campaigns all the time. The campaigns all have different textures."

His wiry body tensed, his voice breaking with stress. Emanuel shouted, "If you don't like what you see, I highly recommend you pick up the ... phone and do it yourself."


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http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/site/premium/access-registered.intercept
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 03:40 PM
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1. Kick Carville to the curb.
Hey, that has a nice ring to it.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 03:42 PM
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2. Carville is getting a little big for his britches.
He's like an aunt I have...she sits back and tells everyone what needs to be done, but never gets her hands dirty.

Sounds like he needs a big ol' cup of STFU!!
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Irreverend IX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 03:44 PM
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3. He's pissed because the DLC has been left out in the cold.
Edited on Sun Nov-12-06 03:44 PM by Nabeshin
They had their vote-killing heyday. Now it's time for real progressives to take charge.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:17 PM
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29. The DLC and Corporate America are where he is united with his wife...
They try to get all of this press that they are both "opposites" that attract, but their real bond is that they are both working for corporate America. And what they are both panicking about is that America is waking up to this stealth attempt to take over of the government, and that he can't bend from this part of his agenda that the new wave of progressive Democrats taking power are taking issue with him on.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:24 PM
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30. Wait! I thought Rahm was DLC... oh, I'm so confused
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:33 AM
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40. Tactics and ideology are different things. (nt)
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 01:33 AM by w4rma
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 04:56 AM
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45. EXACTLY
he's irrelevant and he doesn't like it so what he can't have he wants to destroy...that ASSHOLE!:mad:
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 03:47 PM
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4. The transformation of James Carville.
From "Ragin' Cajun" to "Whining Cajun"

What the f*ck kind of hold does Matalin have on this guy that he's basically turned the "War Room" into the "Baby Blanket Room". James has lost his edge, or lost his mind. I'm not sure which.

Now get this, Carville. We run the show now. We, the people. We have the Internet and we're not going to allow any sleazy slime-ball from DC control us any longer. We elected these people to Congress. They are ours. We control them. You and your smarmy group of arrogant, idiotic DC insiders control nothing, apparently not even your mouths.

The country is ours now. Get out of our way, or we'll just run you over. Your only alternative is to join us.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 04:08 PM
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9. Carville is pussy-whipped
and takes it out on the Democrats.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:18 PM
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33. I was going to use a specific Carlinian adjective...
but I decided not to entitle the post "The pussification of James Carville"
But since you have broken the barrier let's see if this post will fly.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 09:50 AM
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48. My apologies to the Ladies
Mary is not a Lady.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:20 PM
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34. He's protecting the WAR CRIMINAL he's married to.
.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:35 AM
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41. and she might be the next RNC chairwoman.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 11:30 PM
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35. Nice rant!
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 03:49 PM
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5. He sleeps with the enemy...
...what do you expect?
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Morereason Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:46 AM
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38. Good point!
Can you really be in bed with fascists, literally and figuratively, and truly not be compromised by it? I am not sure if that is possible. Money and power corrupt. He plays that game every day and drinks in the fine wine, and sits in privileged places at their parties with his wife.

Think about it... If he was too ideological or effective he would have no life, it would likely destroy his marriage. At the least the guy should not be allowed to offer "advice" to those who are not on the fence.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 03:50 PM
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6. Well it's like this, see. Carville has to do whatever the pubs tell him or
they'll reveal what his wife knew about the Plame incident.

That's how i figure it
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 03:51 PM
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7. Maybe he has a good reason
His wife is a member of the White House Iraq Group and could one day (hopefully) be prosecuted for her crimes in the
marketing of a war based on lies. Working for this administration, she could very well be guilty of other crimes too.
So it's in his best interests to not be totally committed to a strong Democratic party committed to holding this administration accountable.
This is why I don't trust him.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 03:54 PM
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8. I don't know why

Carville consistently behaves and advocates things as if it's politically still 1992. It simply isn't, north of the Potomac and Ohio Rivers anyway.

Maybe his ideas still work well in the South, but he seems to have not caught on to what 14 years of slow change in hard Blue country have done.
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 04:10 PM
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10. What does this tell you?
from page 7 of the Chicago Trib article:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-0611120215nov12,1,2323509.story?page=7&ctrack=1&cset=true&coll=chi-news-hed

As the campaign drew to a close, Lapp and his deputy, Ali Wade, were signing off on dozens of advertisements each day in an office across the street from the DCCC. The office was filled with chaotic activity--phones ringing, staffers charging in, ads playing on computers. A board on the wall listed districts where the DCCC was airing TV spots. One day in October, another call from James Carville prompted Wade to say in exasperation: "Can we change our number so he doesn't keep calling?"
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 04:02 AM
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44. I love it. Thanks for the excerpt.
Maybe we're seeing the end of Carville's influence.
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 04:13 PM
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11. I Wipe My A$$ With Carville Paper Twice....


.......DAILY.......He Is A Traitor to the Democratic Party.....
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 04:14 PM
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12. His new name is CONFLICTED CARVILLE. n/t
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 04:18 PM
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13. I don't understand why everyone even *bothers* to talk about him....
... it's patently obvious that he's simply fighting to be even so much as *relevant*. But everyone's treating him - by all the press - as though his relevance is settled fact.

It's comical - both sides are convinced that the other is mounting an insurmountable campaign against the other - and is desperately trying to head it off. The only difference is that Carville is right in that belief. It's comical that our side thinks he so much as needs to be responded to. He's just a milder Zell Miller - i.e., who cares what that jackass says?
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 04:27 PM
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14. Carville can barely stand the thought of his own irrelevance.
Who gives a flying fuck what he thinks? He's SO stuck in the '90s.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 04:32 PM
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15. He's not irrelevant., he's carrying water for Hillary n/t
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 04:33 PM
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16. What I said.
Hillary will be a big factor in the primaries right up until New Hampshire, where she'll come in "tied for third" after Gore, Edwards, and maybe a few other people.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 04:37 PM
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17. Does this mean everyone likes Rahm Emanuel now?
I'm losing track!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 05:05 PM
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22. I respect Rahm and think he has worked his ass off.
I think Dean and Rahm have both been doing their jobs. They happen to be different jobs. Sometimes they conflict, sometimes they don't.

I like them both and think they both did an awesome job in 2006.

I also appreciate the fact that Rahm decided not to push for the Whip position because it would have caused a lot of problems. I'm glad he will get the #4 spot.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 05:13 PM
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24. I like him better already for telling C'ville to STFU. Lots better.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 11:37 PM
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37. Me too. eom
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 11:36 PM
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36. DU has more personalities than Norman Bates
Edited on Sun Nov-12-06 11:36 PM by qanda
It didn't take long for us to stop enjoying the victory and start jumping on every Democrat in view. I need a scorecard to keep up.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 07:33 AM
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47. qanda, the RNC-lite brigade STARTED it, and WE'RE going to
finish it. This shoudln't surprise anyone. We've been talking about this for the past year here. Gotta rein in the appeasers of the Bush Administration--FATS--as they make a play for control of our politicians. .
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 04:43 PM
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18. login to read the long article
Username joe@spambob.com
Password joeatspambob
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 04:44 PM
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19. The power-mad sissy Carville...should have his ass kicked - by me...I'd love to
Edited on Sun Nov-12-06 04:48 PM by GreenTea
rip out his fucking lungs, I'd stomp him the balls, but he doesn't have any, his old lady has them....Carville with the corporate conservative DLC - is now jumping on Dean...Dean did a great job...Yes, republicans, it's now obvious stole plenty of races that democrats actually of won via their voting machines...But the asshole Carville, who desperately wants to be a player...is a total divider, a bitch for the republicans & corporations and his ugly disgusting wife!

Bring it on James!

http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/11/10/153830/13

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/10/135814/54

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/what-a-mandate-popular-_b_33882.html
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 04:51 PM
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20. I'll never dis him again
Great article. These guys work their asses off, all of them. I think he's wrong about Dean's contribution, but he deserves an enormous amount of credit too.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 04:53 PM
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21. One thing that the Rahm haters and Deaniacs can agree upon.
Carville is toast.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 05:11 PM
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23. Rahm's redeemed himself substantially IMO, if this is true.
Carville's WIFE IS A WARCRIMINAL!

Consider that when wondering WTH his real motivations are.
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 05:15 PM
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25. Me too. That part about Rahm screaming at Carville gave me chills.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 05:23 PM
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26. That's right!
Also, he had a big hand in the Kerry concession from what I've read. He hadn't intended to concede at all in 04.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 08:08 PM
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32. Me as well
Emanuel's looking a good bit better to me.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 06:25 PM
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27. Don't worry about Carville. He is rapidly sliding into political
irrelevance and there is nothing he can do to stop it. His hour upon the stage is in the last minute or two.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 06:28 PM
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28. The only possible way an irrelevant person can BECOME relevant....
... is for fools to talk about him as though he's relevant.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 08:00 PM
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31. I wonder how much the GOP pays Carville
to discredit the Democratic Party. I always wondered why anyone would hire such an obvious and obnoxious jerk.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:52 AM
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39. Perhaps, the same as they pay Lieberman...sick deceitful fucks!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:41 AM
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42. Throw Donna Brazille in that equation as well.
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 01:43 AM by Cleita
I just saw her this morning shilling for the White House again.

Ooooh! She's been invited to the special White House Christmas party.
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Johnny Appleseed Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 03:55 AM
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43. Carville did a nice job of humiliating Rob Novak on the air...
so it's difficult for me to think completely negatively about the guy, though, yea, in the Rove era conciliatory don't get you to far... at least not in this election. Let's see what things look like in a couple years post-bush.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 07:30 AM
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46. Carville was great (IMO) in the 80's/eraly 90's...
but he's soooo last century, now.

January 2000 Changed EVERYTHING.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:02 AM
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49. For such a dramatic accusation, only a dramatic remedy will do.
I prescribe the same fate as William Wallace: Hanged, drawn and quartered, disemboweled, and beheaded.
That'll teach him to f*ck with the Democrats.
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