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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:14 AM
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"Anyone but Hillary" bumper sticker?
I saw this bumper sticker on my way home from work the other day.


The website http://www.anyonebuthillary2008.com/index.htm is nothing more than a 'I hate Hillary Clinton so much I started this website' site. Everything is about hating on Hillary Clinton.

Why do they hate her so much? Is it because she's a women? What is it?

Anyways, this is the kind of stuff we would see throughout 2008 if she is nominated. I love the women, but can someone please convince her not to run.

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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:18 AM
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1. She hasn't even stated she will
run for president and already the swiftboat engines are starting.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:18 AM
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2. I'm thinking of buying, "Any Democrat For President in 2008, Even if it's Hillary." n/t
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:19 AM
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3. It's a combination of a lot of things
1) she's a woman
2) she's outspoken
3) she's smart & assertive
4) all those rumors about her these past 15 years or so -
lesbianism,
the Clinton body count,
"Hitlery",
"it takes a village to raise a child" obviously shows her to be communist

While I don't support her for President in 2008 - Gore is my choice right now - Hillary has been through a meat grinder since 1991 or so, and has survived and just won re-election in a landslide. My point is that I don't think there is much more they can do to her, no new skeletons in her closet, etc.

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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:25 AM
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5. I agree.
I think she could win and I would support her, but if she is nominated I think it would really turn off many Americans to Democrats. Not so much because she isn't a good Democrat, but more because of the politics. The Republicans have shown that they will pretty much do and say anything to get elected. If she gets nominated the lies and suggestions would be three times as bad if it was her.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:20 AM
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4. I'd like a BREAK UP BIG MEDIA bumpersticker
Edited on Sun Nov-12-06 09:20 AM by zonkers
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:26 AM
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6. How about, "Turn off talk radio and think for yourself!!"
:-)
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:28 AM
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8. Woiks for me!
:-)
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:27 AM
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7. I'd like one that reads "ANY Democrat in 2008" or "ANYONE but a Republican in 2008"
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:37 AM
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9. Wow, that site is filled with almost as much anti-Hillary sentiment as this one
Edited on Sun Nov-12-06 09:37 AM by mtnsnake
It wouldn't surprise me if 90% of the people here order one of those silly bumper stickers.

All the negative attention Hillary gets proves one thing. She's the most formiddable potential candidate on the block, and jealousy and paranoia are manifesting themselves because of it.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:40 AM
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10. I hope you're exaggerating.
Just because some of us don't want her to get nominated in 2008, doesn't mean that we don't like her.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 10:03 AM
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12. Exactly.
I don't hate Hillary Clinton - I think she's great... for New York.

I simply don't think she could flip any red or purple states in a national general election - which is something Democrats need to do both to win and unite the country.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 10:20 AM
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15. She is great for New York like Feingold is great for Wisconsin.
She could be a great, powerful, and effective U.S. Senator for many years. As a presidential candidate she is very polarizing and will motivate the Republicans. I am unsure if she could be elected president and that is, after all, the whole point. Democrats are not lacking for other options.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 11:44 AM
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16. Only about the "90%" part. I stand by what I said in the subject line, though
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:59 AM
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11. It's quite probably because she is a woman,
although very few people would actually admit to that, or even realise it. The equliasation of the status of women and men in western society is an on-going process, and althoguh great progress has been made, it is still very difficult for a lot of people (mostly, but not exclusively men) to contemplate seeing a woman as the ultimate authority figure. In the United States, the problem is complicated further by the strentgh of Fundamentalist Christian groups or churches, many of which preach that a woman's role in life is essentially to support her husband, so that he may be able to do some important work.

Mentalities are changing, and I believe that a woman such as Hillary as a decent shot at being elected, but she is bound to attract some unfair attention and criticism, just because she's a woman. The same phenomenon can be observed in Canada right now with the press coverage of MP Belinda Stronach. Her private life is being scrutinized and published extremely widely, something that would not have happened had she been a male poilitician.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 10:10 AM
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13. Look, I can't speak for that site, but I'll tell you why the Tesha household...
Look, I can't speak for that site, but I'll tell you why the Tesha household
ain't too hot on Hillary.

It's not because she's a woman. Or because she's strong. Or because her
husband is a philandering dick who squandered the Democrat's best
position in twenty or so years. And if she *IS* a lesbian, we couldn't
possibly care less.

No.

It's because, even though Mr. Tesha and I provided substantial support
to her Senate campaign, once elected, *SHE VOTED AGAINST NEARLY
EVERY POSITION WE THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT*, from the War onwards.

We don't support people who don't cotton to our views. And we doubly
don't support people wh seem to support our views while running, but
then, once elected, turn their coats and support the other guys.

Tesha
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independentpiney Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 10:12 AM
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14. I think she was painted in less informed and involved minds
as a mega bureaucrat and secretly in favor of imposing massive regulations in many facets of life, based on misinformation about the Clinton health care plan. It's untrue and ironic considering her detractors openly want to regulate family and personal choice issues. But it has stuck, and alot of people i know who don't follow politics regularly but reliably vote Dem have strong negative opinions of her as presidential material. I really hope she can't buy the nomination, or '08 will be a tougher race than it should be.
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