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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 08:45 PM
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"If there is one thing we are going to kill, bury, and put away forever it is this politics of fear.
Veteran's Day Message To Karl Rove: Take Your Terror Scares and Shove Them Up Your Ass!



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Here is my reaction to Fox, to Rove, to Bush, to Cheney and anyone else who has been peddling the politics of fear: kiss my ass.

If there is one thing we are going to kill, bury, and put away forever it is this politics of fear. This sad, pathetic, exploitive wimpy view of America that we are a nation of cowards and that we can be intimidated by fear.

Maybe Bush, Cheney, Rove, and Fox News can be intimidated by fear.

We are not.

The Americans are not.

This politics was kicked out the door, by we the people of the United States, on November 7, 2006.

Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brent-budowsky/veterans-day-message-to-_b_33895.html


Precisely.


BE AMERICA. ---


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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 08:46 PM
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1. YES!
It takes gutless bullies to be that afraid all the time.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 08:53 PM
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4. The pathetic thing about their fear, is they weren't even in harm's way.
The ones who had the most to fear were already voting for Democrats by substantial margins.

It's like a man getting divorced because he's jealous that his wife has a crush on Johnny Depp. Totally irrational. Martha and Elmer out in Podunk town, voting Repub because they're skeered of them terrarists.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 06:18 AM
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13. It's not that I'm not scared......but there's so much to fear.
Edited on Sun Nov-12-06 06:19 AM by aquart
Terrorism is just so far down on my list.

And when it happened, none of us are exactly over it, but so what? When terror strikes, if you live, you keep living. If you're dead, you're dead. It's that middle ground of being in several pieces that makes me uneasy.....but I feel that same way about plane crashes, car crashes, train wrecks, and those few nasty incidents of my ceiling caving in.

Fear gets incorporated. And we go on. Train has to be evacuated because of a suspicious package? We get off, take the bus, walk, grab a cab. We go on.

I was horrified when George immediately began using a war vocabulary. TERRORISM IS NOT WAR. It's committed by people who aren't strong enough to wage war. He elevated Osama to head of state and al qaeda to nation status. It was bizarre. And deliberate. And no way to take it back.

If I were in charge of the world, I would hang George just on those terrible wrong statements right after 9/11. He was applauded for being strong. He was simply, criminally wrong.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 10:45 AM
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14. The brave person dies but once, the coward dies a thousand deaths.
Edited on Sun Nov-12-06 10:48 AM by Straight Shooter
All these quivering kool-aid drinking bushies clinging to the notion that one man's war posturing and swaggering and mongering can make them safe, they are the worst cowards of all.

I'm a lot more afraid of dying a slow painful death due to lack of health care for a disease when I'm elderly, or some drunk running into me at high speed, or a fool high on crack with a loaded gun, than I am of a terrorist.

Statistics don't justify the irrationality of living in fear. But bush is sure improving the odds for the fear factor.

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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 12:10 PM
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16. Hate to tell you this, Straight Shooter, but...
The fear of getting hit by a drunk driver or getting robbed by a crack head is the same panic, different subject, same moral panic perpetrated by the Right, different target. True, more likely, but not likely. BushCo probably thought he had the people conquered through moral panic. It was well setup, but not quite there yet.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 01:03 PM
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17. Hate to tell you this, but we differ in our opinions.
Some people are more afraid of things which can basically be categorized as "the boogey-man," the amorphous menace which can never be quite defined or defeated.

I tend to be wary of things which can cause me harm or death due to the absolute negligence, stupidity, or callousness of other people.

:hi:
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 01:34 PM
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18. Uh, that, then, includes just about everything.
Best to keep yourself in the house and locked up tight. I'm surprised your computer is plugged in.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 05:32 PM
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19. Nice response, there.
So much for trying to meet someone on middle ground. :eyes:
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 06:05 PM
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20. The middle ground is way over there, to your Right....
Seriously, it's been one http://www.slate.com/id/2146879">moral panic after another, and BuscCo didn't pull it out of thin air. We were predisposed to accept it and Rove thought we would, again, because we have for so long. Alberto is still going strong using the same method. Rove might be Right: if not for the scandals, they would still be getting away with it.

Seriously, think about it. I didn't Google the statistics, but there is probably a better chance we would get into an accident from our own dumb driving than from a drunk driver, by not paying attention or whatever.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 08:52 PM
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2. Bravo - great leaders in the past have promoted fearlessness and bravery
in the face of danger. These guys have peddled fear and cowardice.

Terror alerts:
be afraid
be a little more afraid
be kinda really scared
ok- crap your pants and leave your hair gel at home.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 09:20 PM
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8. And don't forget the recommendations about the
visqueen and duct tape..... gotta love that...

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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 08:53 PM
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3. That's what I told my sister a couple of weeks ago when she asked
if I wasn't "afraid". I said that of course I'm aware that bad things can happen but I don't live my life in fear. I'm an American! Americans stand tall and deal wtih whatever has to be dealt with. We're the "can-do" nation, not the "cowardly" nation.

She looked at me and said "You've got a point."

The next day she said she'd thought about what I said and decided that it was right.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 08:54 PM
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5. Only those who are afraid serve fear
By spreading it or absorbing it and are but slaves to it.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 08:57 PM
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6. Elegant. Thank you.
:thumbsup:


Never, Ever Forget: George W. Bush willfully violated National Security to cover-up his willful launch of a war of aggression and illegal occupation of Iraq .... and, now he willfully provided nuke-making instructions to terrorists -- if you doubt it, just check 'the google' ....
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 09:10 PM
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7. IMO "politics of fear" will be with us as long as people are allowed to vote. We Dems use it just as
aggressively as do the Repugs. :shrug:
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 09:57 PM
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9. I don't recall any such instances in recent years
Can you give any examples in say the past 4 years where national Democrats have lied or exaggerated a threat to get votes? I can't think of any.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:09 PM
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10. "lied or exaggerated a threat"? My statement went beyond terrorism to every
issue that concerns one or more special groups of voters.

For example, prominent Democrats exaggerated the threat of "assault weapons" even to the point of creating the term itself that was meant to confuse naive people with the phrase "assault rifles".

As a result, the assault weapons ban became law sponsored by such notable Democrats as Gore and Kerry.

Clinton and Gore both say voter perception that Gore was a gun-grabber cost Gore the election.

The assault weapons ban is now history via a sunset provision and there is no perceptible change in crime after it was eliminated.

Have a nice evening. :hi:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 12:01 PM
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15. The biggest winner AND loser on November 7? The gun lobby
I say this because even though a large number of NRA-sponsored Republican candidates lost their seats on Tuesday, a growing number of pro-gun Democrats are replacing them - some of whom are also sponsored by the NRA.

The Brady Campaign, despite its push to keep gun-control as a primary topic for the 2006 elections, has experienced what is effectively a zero-sum gain. Their biggest victory might be the election of Rod Blagojevich to a second term as Governor of Illinois; he promised to push for a tough statewide ban on semi-automatic firearms. But then there's all the pro-gun Democrats who have been elected to the House and Senate.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:27 PM
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11. Frank Rich: "Here’s to the voters of both parties who drove a stake into the heart of our ...
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 10:28 PM by understandinglife
... political darkness.

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OF course, the “thumpin’ ” was all about Iraq. But let us not forget Katrina. It was the collision of the twin White House calamities in August 2005 that foretold the collapse of the presidency of George W. Bush.

Back then, the full measure of the man finally snapped into focus for most Americans, sending his poll numbers into the 30s for the first time. The country saw that the president who had spurned a grieving wartime mother camping out in the sweltering heat of Crawford was the same guy who had been unable to recognize the depth of the suffering in New Orleans’s fetid Superdome. This brand of leadership was not the “compassionate conservatism” that had been sold in all those photo ops with African-American schoolchildren. This was callous conservatism, if not just plain mean.

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Elsewhere, the 2006 returns more often than not confirmed that Americans, Republicans and Democrats alike, are far better people than this cynical White House takes them for. This election was not a rebuke merely of the reckless fiasco in Iraq but also of the divisive ideology that had come to define the Bush-Rove-DeLay era. This was the year that Americans said a decisive no to the politics of “macaca” just as firmly as they did to pre-emptive war and Congressional corruption.

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By FRANK RICH


Thank you, Mr. Rich, and I'd add that this is the year that millions of Americans realized that the terrorists they need fear most are those who carry American passports, collect salaries provided by tax payers, and spend all their time lying, abusing the Constitution, violating international law and treaties, and stealing from the US Treasury - yep, none other than Bu$h, Cheney and their minions.

"We the People ..." are not afraid of them and we are going to ensure they are prosecuted, fairly.


BE THE BU$H OPPOSITION - 24/7

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 01:27 AM
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12. We are not afraid.
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