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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:07 AM
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I'm waiting to hear the words 'I was wrong'
IMPEACH NOW!


2506 "I'm waiting to hear the words 'I was wrong' Dick Morris, 4/9/03
Tue Jun 20th 2006, 03:59 PM
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/seemslikeadream/109


"Tommy Franks and the coalition forces have demonstrated the old axiom
that boldness on the battlefield produces swift and relatively
bloodless victory. The three-week swing through Iraq has utterly
shattered skeptics' complaints." (Fox News Channel's Tony Snow,
4/27/03)



"The only people who think this wasn't a victory are Upper Westside
liberals, and a few people here in Washington." (Charles Krauthammer,
Inside Washington, WUSA-TV, 4/19/03)



"I will bet you the best dinner in the gaslight district of San Diego
that military action will not last more than a week. Are you willing to
take that wager?" (Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, 1/29/03)



"What's he going to talk about a year from now, the fact that the war
went too well and it's over? I mean, don't these things sort of lose
their--Isn't there a fresh date on some of these debate points?"
(MSNBC's Chris Matthews, speaking about Howard Dean--4/9/03)



"It is amazing how thorough the victory in Iraq really was in the
broadest context..... And the silence, I think, is that it's clear that
nobody can do anything about it. There isn't anybody who can stop him.
The Democrats can't oppose--cannot oppose him politically."
(Washington Post reporter Jeff Birnbaum-- Fox News Channel, 5/2/03)



"Now that the war in Iraq is all but over, should the people in
Hollywood who opposed the president admit they were wrong?"
(Fox News Channel's Alan Colmes, 4/25/03)



"I'm waiting to hear the words 'I was wrong' from some of the world's
most elite journalists, politicians and Hollywood types.... I just
wonder, who's going to be the first elitist to show the character to
say: 'Hey, America, guess what? I was wrong'? Maybe the White House
will get an apology, first, from the New York Times' Maureen Dowd. Now,
Ms. Dowd mocked the morality of this war....

"Do you all remember Scott Ritter, you know, the former chief U.N.
weapons inspector who played chief stooge for Saddam Hussein? Well, Mr.
Ritter actually told a French radio network that -- quote, "The United
States is going to leave Baghdad with its tail between its legs,
defeated." Sorry, Scott. I think you've been chasing the wrong tail,
again.

"Over the next couple of weeks when we find the chemical weapons this
guy was amassing, the fact that this war was attacked by the left and
so the right was so vindicated, I think, really means that the left is
going to have to hang its head for three or four more years."
(Fox News Channel's Dick Morris, 4/9/03)



"This has been a tough war for commentators on the American left. To
hope for defeat meant cheering for Saddam Hussein. To hope for victory
meant cheering for President Bush. The toppling of Mr. Hussein, or at
least a statue of him, has made their arguments even harder to defend.
Liberal writers for ideologically driven magazines like The Nation and
for less overtly political ones like The New Yorker did not predict a
defeat, but the terrible consequences many warned of have not happened.
Now liberal commentators must address the victory at hand and confront
an ascendant conservative juggernaut that asserts United States might
can set the world right."
(New York Times reporter David Carr, 4/16/03)



"Well, the hot story of the week is victory.... The Tommy Franks-Don
Rumsfeld battle plan, war plan, worked brilliantly, a three-week war
with mercifully few American deaths or Iraqi civilian deaths.... There
is a lot of work yet to do, but all the naysayers have been humiliated
so far.... The final word on this is, hooray."
(Fox News Channel's Morton Kondracke, 4/12/03)



"Shouldn't the prime minister and all of us who thought the
war was hasty and dangerous and wrongheaded admit that we were wrong? I
mean, with the pictures of those Iraqis dancing in the streets, hauling
down statues of Saddam Hussein and gushing their thanks to the
Americans, isn't it clear that President Bush and Britain's Tony Blair
were right all along? If we believe it's a good thing that Hussein's
regime has been dismantled, aren't we hypocritical not to acknowledge
Bush's superior judgment?... Why can't those of us who thought the war
was a bad idea (or, at any rate, a premature one) let it go now and
just join in celebrating the victory wrought by our magnificent
military forces?"
(Washington Post's William Raspberry, 4/14/03)



"This will be no war -- there will be a fairly brief and ruthless
military intervention.... The president will give an order. attack] will be rapid, accurate and dazzling.... It will be greeted by
the majority of the Iraqi people as an emancipation. And I say, bring
it on."
(Christopher Hitchens, in a 1/28/03 debate-- cited in the Observer,
3/30/03)



"Speaking to the U.N. Security Council last week, Secretary of State
Colin Powell made so strong a case that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein
is in material breach of U.N. resolutions that only the duped, the dumb
and the desperate could ignore it."
(Cal Thomas, syndicated column, 2/12/03)




Until the philosophy,
Which holds one race superior
And another inferior,
Is finally and permanently
Discredited and abandoned,
Everywhere is war.

WAR

Until there is no longer first class
Or second class citizens of any nation.
Until the color of a man's skin,
Is of no more significance than
The color of his eyes,
I've got to say "war".

WAR

That until the basic human rights,
Are equally guaranteed to all,
Without regard to race,
I'll say "war"

Until that day the dream of lasting peace,
World-citizenship and the rule of
International morality will remain
Just a fleeting illusion to be pursued,
But never obtained.
And everywhere is war.

Until the ignoble and unhappy regime
Which holds all of us through,
Child-abuse, yeah, child-abuse yeah,
Sub-human bondage has been toppled,
Utterly destroyed,
Everywhere is war.

War in the east,
War in the west,
War up north,
War down south,
There is war,
And the rumors of war.

Until that day,
the african continent will know no peace
There is no continent,
Which will know peace.

Children, children.

Fight!

We find it necessary.
We know we will win.
We have confidence in the victory
Of good over evil
Of good over evil

Fight the real enemy!

Bob Marley




What are you waiting for 50,000 more dead?

I'm sick to see georgie on TV this morning honoring the vets
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:14 AM
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1. I was first recommend!
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 11:15 AM by The Count
Nothing like a good look at "famous last words"
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:15 AM
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2. k/r
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:16 AM
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3. Apologize Bush.
Then, resign and prepare a defense for your trials.

KR&B.

Thank you, seemslikeadream. For everything.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:18 AM
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4. It is my experience that facing physical danger has been easier
than facing myself.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:19 AM
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5. It's humbling...
That so many prominent people, held in high esteem by our society, could be so utterly wrong headed. If these folks had only logged on to DU...

--IMM
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LiberalArkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:19 AM
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6. This sure would make a good Keith Olbermann commentary.
Great Post.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:38 AM
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9. You're right! Keith would make it powerful and direct. K & R n/t
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 11:38 AM by Nothing Without Hope
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 12:17 PM
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12. Sure would. K&R nt
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:23 AM
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7. Kicked and Recommended.
:kick:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:24 AM
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8. Lovely post
but don't hold your breath for an apology from Bush. Latest Newsweek Polls show he is tanking at 31%. Investigate and Impeach!
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exlrrp Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 08:54 AM
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33. took the words right out of my mouth
Being a Bush means you never have to say youre sorry--even though youre one sorry sonofabitch
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:40 AM
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10. Well, shit. I didn't know this thread was going to choke me up
but it did.

I don't want to hear no talk about no impeachment.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:51 AM
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11. I don't think that happens until after the conviction and before
the sentencing. And maybe during the parole haring.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 12:21 PM
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13. Thanks for putting this together
I have to admit that I just skiimmed it enough to get the jist; for some reason, I am too emotional to read the whole thing. I don't want to get angry right now. But I will come back and read it all, and so should everyone else at DU. Heck, forget DU, this should be required reading for all corporate media newsreaders.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 12:36 PM
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14. I know I'm speaking to the choir here
But Alan Colmes is not a liberal.

Alan Colmes is to liberals what Steppin' Fetchit is to the NAACP.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 12:54 PM
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17. word
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 12:41 PM
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15. Oh God.
:cry:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 12:47 PM
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16. ....I would be glad to have been wrong
Instead, it has unfolded exactly the way that so many of us foresaw, with no end in sight. May the souls of those killed rest in peace, and may the wounded find comfort.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 01:45 PM
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18. If there were a "Greatest Ever" page, this thread would be on it.
:kick:
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 01:47 PM
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19. Powerful. K and R.
:cry:
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:39 PM
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20. K & R


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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:40 PM
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21. A very moving and powerful thread
on this day. I flipped from the MSM coverage of the wreath-laying ceremony to happen upon a segment on C-Span taking place on site at the Dover AFB where they inventory and handle the personal and war-theater possessions of the wounded and dead shipped back to the US for their families.

In their deaths, the final tales of their lives. Their civilian clothes and sweet memories of another life, their neatly folded well-laundered blue jeans, bright happy colored sweaters, worn sneakers, their ipods and treasured trinkets and momentos from girlfriends and wives, the family pictures and family letters, the cherished and carefully guarded small comforts in a hostile and frightenng far-away place, and of course their helmuts and boots and other staples and essentials for "survival"...

Heartbreaking and heart-sickening just doesn't begin to say it...

K&R

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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:27 PM
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22. No words...just tears...
:cry:

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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 04:14 PM
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23. Astounding post.
K&R
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 04:18 PM
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24. excellent
:applause:

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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 04:40 PM
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25. Apologize, you arrogant cretins.
Or take your chances when you finally stand before the gods who will judge you first, and then destroy you.

============

Awesome post, seemslikeadream. The death and sorrow stand in stark contrast to the hubris in which the speakers of those words wallowed gleefully. Pride goeth.

Where are the apologies?
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 05:10 PM
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26. From Day One
I said there's a big difference between toppling a government and occupying a country.

One of the reasons I ended up on DU is because people here GOT it. All of the cheerleaders, in the media, on other message boards, were SO clueless it made me want to scream.

Of course I would have prefered to have been wrong. But I wasn't. And I knew it.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 05:37 PM
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27. May they find peace.
:cry: :cry: :cry:
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 05:39 PM
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28. This a EXACTLY what is needed, so we never forget. K&R!!
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 05:39 PM by happydreams
:hi:
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 05:40 PM
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29. There is a sense in which they were right
The war, according to the traditional meaning of the term, was indeed over in May 2003. What we have been doing since is not a war but an occupation, which is entirely a different thing. Wars end with victory or defeat; occupations can only end in staying forever or leaving eventually.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 06:52 PM
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30. Excellent piece of journalism.
Highly recommended.

:dem:

-Laelth
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 09:20 PM
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31. If only the MSM could come up with something like this on this memorial.
K&R

Those media whores should be made to drown in their own verbal diahhrea.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 09:26 PM
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32. So Sad, that last ride seems so lonely
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:01 AM
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34. Admit you lied you mother fucker!
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