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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:12 PM
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Leftleaning media is REALLY dropping the ball on the filibuster, just as
they did during the election and every battle the Dems take on.

Wake up folks - the Dem pundits and supposed leftleaning media are the Dem party's weakest links.

They don't focking LISTEN to the substance of the argument, only sit back and judge the messenger and political motives. That plays right into Republican rhetoric and BAM... RW message machine controls the debate AGAIN.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:12 PM
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1. There is a leftleaning media?
Where?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:14 PM
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2. The "chosen" Dem punditry class.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:19 PM
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4. They are false flag fascist shills. eom.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:24 PM
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5. the begalamen and carvilites. . . . . . eom
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:30 PM
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8. i am not following leftmedia? lol lol i turned off msm though
so i may bot be seeing. editorials? blogs? cause......
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:37 PM
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10. The chosen Dem spokepeople on the news networks.
Seems there are none that can speak straight on the substance and issues, but, opinionate on motives and messengers.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:42 PM
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12. i didnt know they came out, i didnt know htey are talking
lockhardt? i heard adn he seems to get it. he seems to get it most, and most informed. many of our dems, just dont seemed informed
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 01:23 AM
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32. Actually, I heard Shrum (!) on Hardball, I think...
speaking out very forcefully in favor of the filibuster following Kerry's announcement. I nearly fell out of my chair.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 10:40 AM
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36. It's so rare that we're astounded when it happens...
crazy, isn't it? We should be able to COUNT on these spokepeople to have their facts and messages IN ORDER all the time.
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:19 PM
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18. Who listens to them anyway? n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:27 PM
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19. The media gives them the microphones when they need Dem issues trashed
by other Dems.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:15 PM
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3. they don't miss a beat on the Oprah/ lying author story , though.
:crazy:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:50 PM
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14. The exteme right detests Oprah ... like Martha.
Oprah had the temerity to beat down the Beef Cabal in Texas a while back when they sued her under the Texas Food Disparagement Act, after her 1996 program examining mad cow risks in America. After all, Mad Cow is a threat to profits, didn'tcha know? :eyes:

A progressive black woman billionaire? Heresy!
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sirjohn Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:01 PM
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15. What's the status of mad-cow risk in the US these days?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 02:45 PM
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25. AFAIK, it's enough that Japan has again suspended beef imports from the US
It's my understanding that instances of cattle brains and organs in cattle feed have been again found, contrary to industry assurances.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:24 PM
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6. WE ARE THE MEDIA ... WE MUSN'T DROP THE BALL ... USE THIS
WEEKEND TO TURN THINGS AROUND:

KEEP FAXING
KEEP E-MAILING
AND OM MONDAY...CALL ALL DAY!
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:29 PM
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7. Even Mark Shields felt the need to be snarky about Kerry on Jim Lehrer
He just couldn't resist the need to try and make fun of Kerry, even though he defended Kerry at the same time.

JIM LEHRER: To the analysis of Shields and Brooks, syndicated columnist Mark Shields, New York Times columnist David Brooks.

Mark, how do you read the John Kerry sudden push for a filibuster, what is that about?

MARK SHIELDS: Well, I think there an unfortunate call for it, the venue is not ideal --

JIM LEHRER: The ski slopes.

MARK SHIELDS: Yeah, the Swiss connection. But I think there is among a lot of Democrats a sense that we've got to make a fight here. We've got to go on record because they're fearful that when this thing does go as they think it is going to go, that Judge Alito joins the conservative majority in the court, and especially on workers' rights cases and discrimination cases that they want to have made the case.


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/political_wrap/jan-june06/sb_1-27.html

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:35 PM
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9. Are you listening to the Young Turks?
I don't watch news on TV, as it is so biased. I find progressive talk radio a much better source of news and arguments for filibustering. Al Franken talked about the filibuster yesterday on AAR, and the Young Turks are in the 27th hour of a "filibuster" to encourage folks to contact their reps on joining the filibuster. They've had some great guests on and are also taking phone calls.
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sirjohn Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:05 PM
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16. Are the American people listening to the Young Turks?
(Or Al Franken)

Need to speak to more than the choir to win elections.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:17 PM
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17. I took a survey of my business once
Of the entire company (of a total of 4 people), I'm the only one politically active. I have asked the fellows I work with if they watch or listen to the news. To a man, they say no, except for the news at the "top of the hour" on the local music station. My boss listens to sports exclusively. All are Democrats, however, and do react to the few things they hear about-my boss suggested tar and feathering for Bush earlier this year, and another co-worker said he was ready to join me in marching or picketing after he heard about the wiretapping.

I have no idea if my tiny sampling of folks around here is typical, but one other thing that I have noticed is VERY effective, and that is sharing CDs and DVDs. I talked with several folks around town (we're talking a small town of around 12,000), I found a lot of folks who had seen F911 and Loose Change, and have become quite angry-not resigned. I plan to continue distributing DVDs and CDs to folks like this.

Oh, and when the guys are in the office they HAVE to listen to AAR, because I keep it streaming online (except when I listen to Stephanie Miller).
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sirjohn Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:37 PM
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20. There's a balance between personal and political life
Most folks concentrate on the personal. Politics is how we choose to live collectively. Maybe one could draw some analogy from the "all politics is local" saying if clever enough. Our most important influence on other people is the example we set in how we live, not what we believe.

You seem like an intelligent guy who wants to educate people - and your neighbors probably notice that. People scrutinize first how we are and act, and then maybe what we say.

On the other hand, shrill, hate-filled fanatics only convey hostility and misery. Who will follow the example of a lost soul who's at an unforgiving dead end, close to losing his sanity if it's not lost already?

Yes, I'm talking about Air America. I listen to it the same way I look at a dead animal on the highway - or a train wreck.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 02:02 PM
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21. As the only lady in my office,
and the oldest one to boot, I've noticed that the fellows, including my boss, tend to listen to me. Personally, I don't find Al Franken shrill. He's even had conservatives on the show and has always treated them with courtesy. He talks a lot about his USO tour. Both of those actions I feel belie the rwing spin that liberals are all cowards or people who won't listen to the other side.

Stephanie Miller is more of a audible cartoon, but I don't know if I would call her shrill. From the small bits of rw radio I've heard, the folks on liberal talk radio seem to be more sane.
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sirjohn Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 10:31 PM
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29. The one I was referring to was Mike Malloy on Air America
Edited on Sat Jan-28-06 10:39 PM by sirjohn
It's like watching a train wreck, morbidly fascinating. This post may not get past the moderators ... well, won't say it ... well, why not ... sometimes I get the impression he's going to slit his wrists right there on the air. Just an expression, not intended literally.

But he's the most extreme. Randi Rhodes is a mental midget but she gets by on sheer persistence, even when she's stupidly wrong. She can make a hangnail sound like the Kennedy assassination. The American public doesent care about minute details of the political battle, and won't vote based on it, much less on absurd speculation. They want 1) a good life and 2) a responsible government.

Sam Sneed is good. He's pretty bright, and well mannered.

The guy from Minnesota in the afternoon is all right. Good ole boy who can tell a story and carry on a conversation without forgetting he's a decent guy.

Garofalo - very boring, very shallow.

Al Franken - funny sometimes but a total a-hole. Another mental midget.

In general they don't realize that radio has to be entertaining in order to keep the attention of the audience. Some of them sound clinically depressed. Who wants to listen to that?

We need people who have good ideas and can communicate them clearly, and who are inspiring or even fun to listen to, not a bunch of outraged fanatics who can only scream, "Bush lied." It's getting very old.

Most entertaining right-wing show is Drudge. He doesn't get bogged down in dogma, always several steps ahead of the audience. He's a radio guy first and a political animal second, or at least sounds like it on the air.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:40 PM
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11. Good thing the media isn't deciding this one. n/t
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:45 PM
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13. Remember what Kerry said in his speech on the Senate floor Friday...
Now, as I mentioned earlier, I know this is flying against some of the sort of political punditry of Washington. I understand that. But this is a fight worth making because it is a fight for a lifetime appointment on the Supreme Court of the United States.


http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=1774

Let's go down fighting, Democrats! Do the right thing! Vote NO on cloture! Remember, a vote for cloture is a vote for Alito!
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 02:05 PM
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22. What do you mean by leftleaning media?
If you are referring to the whores in the mainstream media, I'll agree with you.

But the real grassroots leftleaning press is doing the best it can to spread the word and activate people on this.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 02:52 PM
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27. Those in the leftleaning media chosen to rep Dem side on MSM.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 09:26 PM
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28. OH, the Centrist-standing-still media
They're useless. They should be the allies who bring the truth to ther people via the media. But the only truth they seem to know is what the pick up at the latest Georgetown cocktail party.


(Although there are exceptions. EJ Dionne, for example, is usually pretty spot on. Tom Oliphant, despite his ultra-preppy manner, is a lot more tough minded than he seems.)
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 02:13 PM
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23. The Whorporate Media handpicks those who "speak" for the Democrats
They would never allow anyone who speaks the truth to be heard...which is why we see so much of Donna Brazille (sp.?), and Paul Begala. It's a DILUTED Democrat cocktail they're serving up. When Howard Dean is on, there is always a KKKatie Couric there (or another Stepford Journalist) to spout inaccuracies and sometimes outright lies, which are rarely corrected. That's why our battle is an uphill one...
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 02:21 PM
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24. Huh? Randi, The Young Turks, Hartmann, all the center to left
media in the US is doing their bit. You really expect someone like Beck, Buchanan or any other from Conservative News Network, or Al-Falafel News Network to push the filibuster. Or maybe you expect the $14,000,000 woman, Katie "Eyeliner is more important than Research" Kouric to read something and not fluff her lines?

Sorry, that's just how I feel about the libr'ul media.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 02:51 PM
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26. I mean the Dem pundits the corporate media is giving airtime.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 10:36 PM
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30. Let's tell them there's a fillibuster in Aruba!
:rofl:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 01:37 AM
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33. lol - or Oprah is reading a book about filibusters. n/t
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 10:55 PM
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31. many of my family are or have been
in media, so it pains me to see what MSM has degenerated into. I agree--the liberal pundits and bloviators on TV are just not up to the job. And print journalists are (with only a few exceptions) reduced to corporate mouthpieces. It is clear that the MSM has sold its soul to the devil.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 01:39 AM
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34. Tomorrow morning is going to be very telling
You know this is going to be talked about on all of the shows.

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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 01:40 AM
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35. But, but... the media is LEFT-LEANING!!!!!
Didn't you get the memo? I'll have the NSA send it again if you did not.
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