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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:12 PM
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Private Message on MEDIA from an insiders perspective...
This correspondence was between myself and in my humble opinion one of the best writers at DU, who I will not name without permission. It is a short but VERY revealing read.

Thanks for your positive, encouraging message but it's still a bit too early for me to buy champagne. You write extremely well, which I'm sure others mention regularly. Have you ever worked in media?

Much of my experience is in advertising where repetition is the key to producing results. As Shakespeare wrote "ay, there's the rub." A quick two week exposure of a new idea like DIEBOLD, which can easily be construed by the public and, perhaps later even media, as "conspiracy theory," has little long-term impact.

In writing, a pitfall for many with good command of language and grammar, is over-estimating abilities of a reader to understand. Work you present at DU, does not suggest that you have any problems relating to THESE readers but at this site I've noticed a higher intellect and education than we might find in the public of most media markets. In other words, those idiots outside DU have very short memories and even the simplest concepts must be hammered into their heads for months, which is the main reason they ever vote Republican.

I've become quite spoiled writing for this demographic. Even with my musical/graphic renditions, it is nice to realize that a fairly broad cross-section of viewers grasp subtle suggestive nuance in the presentations. Outside DU, offering that type media is like casting pearls before swine.

In media, broadcasters usually read the same copy at least twice in a row before a show, which is what news is often called, with each reading offering the probability of carrying a viewer or listener in different directions. It's as simple as a magician's thumb trick for pros to divert the eyes or cast slight inflection into their voice to totally change audience perception, which is why Clear-Channel has so few live broadcasters, actually on the air. What amazes me is that if a silly electronic box offers information, it is as if Moses just brought down stone tablets of profound truth. People in America better wake up. It is and always was, simply a slight-of-hand trick. The only difference is that back then, we engaged in black magic far less.

While, FOX might strike us as idiots on cocaine, make no mistake -- master propagandists sit just outside the foot-lights, meticulously coaching every broadcast. To think it stops at FOX is a plummet into folly. Anyone with enough millions to lose money for so long on that dog has resources to reach ANY demographic, including mine. Like cocaine, FOX - and all media - can be addictive with an unseen, dangerous impact on consumers. While that is indeed troubling, it is more upsetting that intelligent people can no longer enjoy the History Channel. Those reasonably accurate broadcasts once felt like a pair of comfy old slippers but now their programming fits like six-inch heels, which would look ridiculous on me, like most men.

If you have noticed a sharp increase in advertising per quarter hour, again we look to history. Before Reagan dismantled the FCC, stations ran only a specific amount of commercials per quarter hour. These ads that blast us out, as volume suddenly increases were forbiden. These laws not only served consumers but also media because back then people might actually listen to some advertising. By reducing 10 commissioners to 3 Reagan made the FCC less able to monitor media. Even worse, it creates a situation where a small number of people can easily agree on bad regulations. Worst of all, one radical change in the FCC allows a single person to buy up gigantic blocks of media, conceivably owning every news source in America. In the old days, if you owned a radio station, for example, restrictions kept you from buying the local newspaper. Now, ClearChannel owns nearly every station in the country and, while your local station may sound live, it is likely pre-recorded. I toured a Clear-Channel facility years ago. Twenty radio stations broadcasting from a single facility with NO DISC JOCKEYS made me want to vomit. I left media for good, not long after that job interview.

In proofing my PM, it occurs to me that if we present this material to DU as a whole, it might benefit this highly intelligent group. Some mental armoring in upcoming months will not be a bad thing for this audience.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:14 PM
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1. kick
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:17 PM
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2. Kick but tonight is probably not a good night
to post this you may want to wait a couple of days and repost it when the roar becomes a whisper.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:19 PM
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4. please help the roar is the size readership that needs to know this
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:27 PM
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10. it's always the right time for me....
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 12:28 PM
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35. this thing is still getting votes out front so i'll kick it into here thanks...
for spreading this important message, everyone
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:25 PM
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8. okay i'm headed out for some beverages. kick it up if ANY reader feels others should know
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:50 PM
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48. Read it, loved it, recommended it !
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:18 PM
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3. Bookmarking to reread again when the mind can wrap around it
thanks for sharing it.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:20 PM
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5. thank you for the kick. nothing is more important for this gigantic audience
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:21 PM
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6. Brilliant post very valid points but tonight we celebrate
then we'll Fuck Murdoch & Rove!!

Cheers! :toast:

Rec!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:22 PM
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7. i sure hope you are right thanks for the kick
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:26 PM
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9. k&r nt
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:50 PM
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16. hey i didn't realize DU votes count tonight. give it two more and its safe on greatest page
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StraightDope Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:29 PM
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11. K&R...
The media's complicity was the undoing of the American system. Undoing the media conglomerates will go a long way toward restoring our democracy.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 12:05 AM
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29. exactly on part of what you say, but the real problem with media...
is that it's all being owned and controlled by a small circle of very rich men
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emmadoggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:30 PM
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12. K & R!
.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 11:32 PM
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22. thanks for the kick
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 01:28 AM
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33. nice to meet you and welcome to du
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newsdude Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:31 PM
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13. So ... um ... voting machines dangerous ...
Am I missing something here?
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 12:02 AM
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28. lol, see what i mean about getting our important messages out...
to a broader audience... it's called Diebold electronic paperless voting that can't be tracked or recounted... we've been bitching about it online for years and finally it hit big in media about 2 weeks ago when nothing could be done to make us think our votes didn't matter but guess what, we didn't buy into that transparent ploy
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:20 PM
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37. Hi newsdude!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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siligut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:35 PM
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14. Near and dear to my mind. K&R. eom
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:44 PM
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15. thanks for all the kicks, i'll be back later to relax for a change on du lol
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siligut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:52 PM
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17. Glad to help. eom
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 12:22 AM
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31. I'm out front voting up OPs over mine because those patriots are a reason we won...
without their daily hrad work america would now be FOX-food
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 11:02 PM
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18. I have an idea who this DU'er is. But I'll never tell.
Hey, Jefferson's Ghost. Back from your wild time?

:hi:
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 11:17 PM
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19. just got back and thanks for the 11 votes... I'm just starting my first beer.
the TV SURE IS SOUNDING GOOD!
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siligut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 11:19 PM
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20. ClearChannel=Iron curtain
Edited on Tue Nov-07-06 11:33 PM by siligut
RW control of information. The insidious and not so subtle biased crap we have been subjected to will be rampant(rampant RW influence is not what we want just in case you haven't been paying attention), and lack of attention is something they count on.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 11:41 PM
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24. there buying up all the outdoor (bill boards) now
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 11:31 PM
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21. Only five more needed. so . . .
kick!
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siligut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 11:40 PM
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23. kick. eom
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siligut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 11:48 PM
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25. wake up call. eom
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 11:52 PM
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26. what does carpel tunnel feel like one hand and part of my arm hurts when i type
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 01:39 AM
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34. thanks kitkat... nice to meet you
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 11:52 PM
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27. I need to read this tomorrow!
Looks good, though. Thanks for sharing!
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 12:09 AM
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30. K&R
:kick:
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 12:54 AM
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32. thanks we've never met but i must say this is my favorite way to make a new friend...
you'll find me loyal to a fault... thanks for the kick and vote
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 02:03 PM
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36. K & R, JG!!!
Very well written piece!!!

:kick: :kick: :kick:
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:28 PM
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38. first let me present YOUR words from your updated journal....
Nance says

TO THOSE WHO MADE IT ALL HAPPEN ...
Posted by NanceGreggs in General Discussion: Politics
Wed Nov 08th 2006, 01:37 PM
I am confident I speak on behalf of all of us here when I say the following:

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU to all of our fellow DUers who manned the phones, went door-to-door, volunteered at campaign headquarters across the country, drove voters to the polls, emailed family and friends - and did all of the many things that helped get the vote out.

We wouldn't be celebrating here today if it were not for your efforts. Along with our winning candidates, we owe you a debt of gratitude.

We hope you are enjoying your overwhelming victory, because you certainly EARNED IT!

Thanks for helping to make our dream a reality!


Now let me add my humble words;

It would say a lot if I write that you are one of the best writers at DU. Your down-to-Earth approach to communicating in print shines with wisdom. Instead of stooping there, though, I have more to say:

You possess a gift for presenting information in a feature-writing style, which rivals any writer I have ever known, personally or otherwise in media. I do not know what the average reader knows of creating the kind of copy you present on-line but I know it does not simply appear on a page in a single draft. Mark Twain said; "I'm not much of a writer but I'm one of the world's best re-writers." I know the work you produce comes from numerous re-writes. Without hard work from internet writers like you, America would be FOX-food this morning. thank you for ALL you did to save America, while entertaining me with great copy. Mark Twain also said, "Your are not a writer until someone else calls you one." I rarely indulge in applying labels to people or calling them names but you just got called one; you darn liberal writer! now get to work! we've only reached a milestone, not fixed America. It's been a pleasure and honor to share the Greatest Page so many times with you Nance. thank you for great copy and thank you for being a patriot.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 06:33 PM
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43. Being called a "writer" is praise enough ...
... but being called a "darned Liberal writer" is the best compliment of all!

Thanks so much, JG - and right back at ya!

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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:14 PM
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46. I've been called worse: AT DU!!! last week twice!!!! one more thanks...
thanks for talking me off an internet ledge when nerves were frazzled all over the Web the night before elections. you know what I mean, so in the words of an old-time ledge-crawler:

"NUFF SAID!"



KEEP DOING THAT FOR SURE!
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 03:30 PM
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39. Kick! (nt)
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 05:57 PM
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41. I waited to reply to you wolf for a special reason: because of a special quality in our friendship..
From my very first post, you have been there. Back in times of wide-spread paranoia at DU, when trolls and lurkers flew onto the OPs of ANY newby they saw as true-blue and dangerous, you were there... Back when my OPs sucked and no one came to my rescue, you were there... When the board was so busy other friends could not even find my OP, like today, you were there... Toe to toe, tooth and claw, we stood alone on other people's Ops, fighting off subtle lurkers, when only those who bothered look deeply saw what we were doing, even on those days, you were there... When ever I called for help in PM, you NEVER stopped to analyze or make judgment, you simply flew to the problem to win the day. IF I COULD ONLY CHOOSE ONE FRIEND AT DU -- IF SOME ODD RESTRICTION KEPT ME FROM HAVING ANY OTHERS, THE UNQUESTIONING LOYALTY YOU HAVE SHOWN WOULD MAKE THAT SELECTION FOR ME. Had you not been there, each of the times I just mentioned, i am sure that I would not be here at all... There is no way for me to honor someone like you with a message. For once, words fail me bro. I'll just leave this one with a simple,

THANKS FOR EVERYTHING!

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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 06:23 PM
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42. You Got It Bro!
After this celebration, there will still be lot's of work to do... but for now, CHEERS!!!!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 06:34 PM
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44. you got it too. how the hell do people do an online HIGH-5?
Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me it's MILLER TIME! :toast:

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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 04:53 PM
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40. K&R - well worth the read (nt)
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:04 PM
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45. kickin!
Hey JG - are you working on a victory video yet?

:bounce:


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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:44 PM
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47. With so many on DU today, you don't have your usual icon viva...
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 08:45 PM by Jeffersons Ghost
So for the new readers at the site her icon, whenever she posts on DU is this:


Nothing fits a member that deserves the name "Lady Liberty" for her nick-name instead of VIVA, here at DU better than the image. No one is more appalled by the oppression and destruction of personal liberty by THE PAST LEADERS IN BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS than her. When I work days on an OP and other very good friends only kick and recommend it, she keeps coming back and kicking my work up, as unwavering as stone. In that way, she is stands as tall as the real Statue of Liberty. She is indeed my rock at this site. Even now she promotes my upcoming video production to appear in the next few days on our new VIDEO FORUM. thank you Viva. thank you for being my rock, thank you for being my friend, thank you for all your hard-work but most of all, thank you for saving America.

To answer your question; I want YOU to help plan and create my next movie. Instead of simply doing the grunt work of finding graphics of Lady Liberty, I want you out front to take the bows this time.


DO YOU WANNA PLAY BALL?

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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:54 PM
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49. You're too sweet!
I'd be honored to be a part of one of your videos.

You've been working hard yourself. You deserve a cookie, fresh from the oven...

Thank God I'm going back to work tomorrow - I've been cooking way too much the past few days! lol
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:04 PM
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51. yum yum... would you like some toast?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:04 PM
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50. kick and RECOMMENDED!!!
:yourock:
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:20 PM
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53. but not like you helderheid...
Like VIVA you ARE a rock... You solidly researched and then regularly publicized DIEBOLD all year. Then, when you saw that KKKarl was trying to use the VERY real problem to make the left and voters at DU think their vote would not count or - even worse - count against our candidates, you became the proverbial rolling stone that gathers no moss by turning away from your previous work to say, VOTE ANYWAY, along with me and a couple of other members. I had been awake all night the night before and had nothing left to give to our last-minute effort to make sure every member at DU voted. I was dead but you rolled away the stone to resurrect the effort. When I awoke, there sat all three OPs saying much the same thing on page one. I wonder how many votes we saved? What i do not wonder about is whether are not you are one of the online heroes that kept DIEBOLD in front of the public. You did and you are a wonder. thank you for standing with us to insure every member here voted. thank you for being my friend. thank you for being a patriot. Most of all, thank you for helping save America.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 12:29 AM
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56. Not true.
This is what I love about DU. We all have the opportunity and the voice to make a difference. You my friend, have made a huge difference. All of DU should be so proud!
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:09 PM
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52. Interesting read. Thanks.
I enjoy the depth of analysis here at DU.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:40 PM
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54. (''''''.
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 11:43 PM by TomInTib
My keyboard isn't workin/ so well.

T*e keys between t/e 'f' snd 'j' aren't workin.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 12:22 AM
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55. That's good enough Tom. I'm glad you posted here AFTER it left the Greatest Page...
You never cared much for all the publicity or your work being seen by thousands anyway and I could care less whether this OP hit 5-stars or only 4 today. With you, it's been about ending this damn kill-fest. Others may wonder why but I know the reason. It is because you've been there and done that back in 'Nam. I don't care what they say or don't say but old veterans like us, weren't treated like heroes. I can't think of one single Nam vet that gives a tinker's damn about crap like that either. It's kinda like medals isn't it Tom? They gave you a bunch of them for running those swift-deaths up-river didn't they? It seems appropriate that you tossed the trinkets right into San Francisco Bay. I know you never wanted to be a highly decorated hero but for that single act, you'll always be a hero of mine.

I've got plenty of friends here Tom but only one hero. I just got a new next-door neighbor. A young guy that used to be a fine Republican neocon. I don't know what came over him lately. He voted Democrat. Oh, I forgot to mention, he moved here from Iraq. He doesn't care much for medals either. He is glad that they finally put his buddies in a Humvee with actual armor on it, right before elections, instead of the one they've driven all these tours of duty that was made of fiber-glass. He told me that with the other ones they had to drill holes in the doors and scavenge pieces of steel to attach to the death-traps for some measure of protection. Of course, after they did that, the vehicle would over-heat and bust shocks. Some things never change, right brother? I'm taking a break today and just thanking old friends, like you. It really didn't matter to me back then whether Republicans were keeping us in Vietnam or Democrats. I knew I had to work hard to get those draft-dodging fools out of power before my real work could start. They are out of power now. Let's see if the Democrats want to stay in power. My new neighbor may be back to pull the voting lever with his one good arm but, you see, his buddies are all still over there.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:22 AM
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57. kick n/t
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:27 AM
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58. kicked for the good material
too late for me to recommend.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:34 AM
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59. thanks for the kick jeff...
check your PM
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 10:35 PM
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60. Kickin' it
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