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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 02:57 PM
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Rules of a Filibuster, from the Senate itself
Filibuster and Cloture
19th Century Filibuster
http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/brie...

Using the filibuster to delay or block legislative action has a long history. The term filibuster -- from a Dutch word meaning "pirate" -- became popular in the 1850s, when it was applied to efforts to hold the Senate floor in order to prevent a vote on a bill.

In the early years of Congress, representatives as well as senators could filibuster. As the House of Representatives grew in numbers, however, revisions to the House rules limited debate. In the smaller Senate, unlimited debate continued on the grounds that any senator should have the right to speak as long as necessary on any issue.

In 1841, when the Democratic minority hoped to block a bank bill promoted by Kentucky Senator Henry Clay, he threatened to change Senate rules to allow the majority to close debate. Missouri Senator Thomas Hart Benton rebuked Clay for trying to stifle the Senate's right to unlimited debate.

Three quarters of a century later, in 1917, senators adopted a rule (Rule 22), at the urging President Woodrow Wilson, that allowed the Senate to end a debate with a two-thirds majority vote, a device known as "cloture." The new Senate rule was first put to the test in 1919, when the Senate invoked cloture to end a filibuster against the Treaty of Versailles. Even with Pl the new cloture rule, filibusters remained an effective means to block legislation, since a two-thirds vote is difficult to obtain. Over the next five decades, the Senate occasionally tried to invoke cloture, but usually failed to gain the necessary two-thirds vote. Filibusters were particularly useful to Southern senators who sought to block civil rights legislation, including anti-lynching legislation, until cloture was invoked after a fifty-seven day filibuster against the Civil Right Act of 1964. In 1975, the Senate reduced the number of votes required for cloture from two-thirds to three-fifths, or sixty of the current one hundred senators.

Many Americans are familiar with the filibuster conducted by Jimmy Stewart, playing Senator Jefferson Smith in Frank Capra's film Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, but there have been some famous filibusters in the real-life Senate as well. During the 1930s, Senator Huey P. Long effectively used the filibuster against bills that he thought favored the rich over the poor. The Louisiana senator frustrated his colleagues while entertaining spectators with his recitations of Shakespeare and his reading of recipes for "pot-likkers." Long once held the Senate floor for fifteen hours. The record for the longest individual speech goes to South Carolina's J. Strom Thurmond who filibustered for 24 hours and 18 minutes against the Civil Rights Act of 1957.



Filibuster means pirate? Arrggghhh matey, avast and have at 'em! Polly wants a filibuster!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 03:03 PM
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1. More on those 'talk-a-thon' filibusters that never happen anymore
Edited on Thu Jan-26-06 03:04 PM by TayTay
From C-Span: http://www.c-span.org/questions/weekly19.asp

Question: I've never seen a real all-night filibuster like in "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington." Why is this? Have the Senate's rules changed? Wilmington, DE - 5/3/00

The rules have not fundamentally changed, but the way the Senate's leadership responds to filibusters has. Since the 1970's, the trend has been not to retaliate against a filibuster by keeping the Senate in session all night, forcing the opponents to stay on their feet and talk until they drop. You don't see an old-fashioned on-your-feet filibuster very often because of the "dual track" system. Leaders have decided it is more efficient to get unanimous consent to "freeze" the bill that is being filibustered in place and jump to another track and process a different bill on which there is less controversy. The logic behind the practice says that taking the filibustered bill "off-stage," permits the leaders to keep the Senate's legislative agenda moving on the floor while trying to negotiate a breakthrough on the problematic bill behind the scenes. The filibustering Senator continues to get what he/she wants: a delay in the bill's consideration, if not an insurmountable barrier to its adoption. So, both sides benefit from dual-tracking. However, dual-tracking has had a converse effect as well. It has contributed to a greater number of filibusters. Senators are filibustering more frequently partly because they know a full-blown endurance contest won't develop. As time pressures build and the agenda backs-up due to an actual or threatened filibuster, the Senator conducting it hopes the leaders will be inclined to end the logjam through negotiations over the policy content of the bill in question, or decide to pull the bill off the agenda. The filibustering Senator expects to be approached by the leadership after a short time, and get offered a deal to take the controversy into the cloakrooms.

The leverage of the filibuster comes from the fact that the Senate cannot vote on a measure until all Senators refrain from seeking recognition to speak. At that point, the Chair puts the question to a vote automatically. However, as long as any Senator wishes to speak, rules mandate that he/she be recognized. So holding forth on the Senate floor prevents a vote from occurring. A filibustering Senator may not sit down, nor leave the chamber, nor yield the floor and expect to get it back. If he/she does anything to lose the floor, recognition goes to the next Senator seeking it and the agenda on the floor may change. A true filibuster is hard work. If the leadership wished to "wear down" the filibustering Senator, it could simply keep the Senate in session all day and all night until the Senator quits or until sufficient votes are found to end the filibuster through a formal process, known as "cloture." But this strategy not only "wears down" the filibusterer(s), it also wears down everyone else. Not much gets done and people just get more tired and less agreeable all around, making it that much harder to forge a consensus. So modern leaders have sought other approaches.

There have been a few recent "old-fashioned" filibusters. In 1992, Senator Alphonse D'Amato (R-NY) filibustered a tax bill for 15 hours, 14 minutes. In 1981, then Senator William Proxmire (D-WI) filibustered a public debt ceiling limitation bill for 16 hours and 12 minutes. The all-time individual record, however, is still held by Senator Strom Thurmond (D-SC), who filibustered a civil rights bill in 1957 for 24 hours and 18 minutes.


Arrrggghhh!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 03:06 PM
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2. so, basically, the dems can't do anything until Frist votes for cloture?
I'm hoping that we have enough dems to vote against cloture!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 03:08 PM
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3. They can talk.
At least until tomorrow and hopefully even longer.

What is Specter doing?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 03:09 PM
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4. asking for the very thing we are discussing!
Edited on Thu Jan-26-06 03:09 PM by pirhana
oh crap - the moment of truth.

edit - asking for cloture.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 03:13 PM
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5. Reid stopped it -
vote on Monday.

Yeah!
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