Patricia Heaton: Not Everyone Loves Michael J. Fox

[Kadie]

Patricia Heaton: Not Everyone Loves Michael J. Fox
Thursday, October 26, 2006

By Roger Friedman

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Heaton is now appearing in a commercial intended to persuade Missouri voters to vote against Amendment 2 on their ballot.

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Heaton’s costars in the commercial are Jim Caviezel, who starred as Jesus in "The Passion of the Christ," and three Missouri sports stars — St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Jeff Suppan, former St. Louis Rams quarterback Kurt Warner (now with the Arizona Cardinals) and Kansas City Royals designated hitter Mike Sweeney.

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But it’s what Fox has done with his illness that is most impressive. Since 2001, according to federal records, his Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson’s Research has raised an astonishing $80 million for research. Unlike most celebrity charities, the Fox Foundation has a Web site that even links to its most recent federal tax filing, and the filing is current.

This is an amazing achievement, considering how young the foundation is. Fox has turned his illness into something incredibly positive; the group even runs in the black, meaning its income is greater than its expenses. Last year the group finished with $7 million in the bank after giving away $17 million.

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Heaton has been a relatively unknown political ideologist to most of her fans. My guess is they will be surprised to learn about her as she attacks Fox and repudiates his claims.

Six months ago I reported that Heaton — who then was campaigning to join ABC’s talk show "The View" as a correspondent — was honorary chairwoman of the group Feminists for Life. Jane Roberts, wife of Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, is a consultant. Their slogan is "Refuse to Choose."

more...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,225406,00.html

[Name removed]

1. Deleted sub-thread

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[Atman]

2. Not everyone loves everyone. But far fewer people love Heaton than Fox.

I can't stand the woman. "Raymond" is damned funny, but she makes my skin crawl since I've heard some of her hateful ranting.

.

[kestrel91316]

25. I have hated her ever since those Albertson's ads started

running! I have never watched "Everybody Loves Raymond" and didn't hear of her political leanings until very recently, but she has annoyed hell out of me for a LONG time.

What a shrew.

[nicehuman]

72. I couldn't stand her since the Terri Shiavo thing

She had no business injecting her ignorant rants into Michael Schiavo's business. He did all he could for his wife for years until it was clear she had no chance of any recovery. Then he gets Patricia Heaton judging him and ranting about things she knows nothing about.

[Kadie]

77. Welcome to DU nicehuman!

I don't remember Patricia Heaton getting involved in the Schiavo situation, but I am not surprised.

[Quantess]

91. Welcome to DU!

I clearly remember she was involved. Meddling, is a better word.

Edit for clarification.

[Canuckistanian]

90. I LOATHED her in "Raymond"

Even before I knew she was a Bushbot. I thought her character was a manipulative, schemeing bitch.

And her use of sex to cajole and discipline Raymond I found disturbing.

Not to mention that she had the acting range of a lobotomized accountant.

Seems fitting somehow.

[saltpoint]

3. Ya don't have to love him to support his position on stem cell

research.

For me, the point is that the Bush administration is notoriously anti-Science.

Stem cell research should be encouraged, endorsed, and paid for in the hope of finding cures for various afflictions and diseases.

This Heaton person is rubbing a lot of pro-Science people the wrong way.

I hope the Fox ad is in the next generation's History texts as emblematic of the depth and breadth of voters' objections to the Bush administration.

[Hobarticus]

9. Trude dat...I'd support Heaton if she'd do something useful

to society, besides expecting everyone else to conform.

At least MJF is doing something unselfish.

[Ripley]

15. Is that real?

That pic and ad are the funniest things I have seen in aeons. I really needed a laugh, too. Thanks.

[Hobarticus]

41. Both are real, and joined together they make laffs-a-plenty

Glad I could help! Have a better day!

[tenshi816]

50. You mean the pic and the ad don't go together?

Damn, I always wonder who would want to go time travelling with that guy, and he's not the even the one who placed the ad (leaving aside the obvious time-travel-isn't-possible thing). Where did you find the ad? It makes me chuckle every time I see it.

[Hobarticus]

103. I had pinched this sig off of another forum...

and this is how it came.

The pic and the ad, although unrelated, fit like peas and carrots.

[saltpoint]

17. Yes. Very good -- and fair -- observation of Heaton.

[bicentennial_baby]

98. OK, that's fucking weird...That ad in your sig

I have a copy of that *exact* ad from a newspaper for Americans living in Paris, that I got in France....except with a French address in it. :wtf:

[NewJeffCT]

4. Sure, not everybody loves Michael J Fox...

But, far fewer love Patricia Heaton than Fox.

[RubyDuby in GA]

5. Wow. Not only is she not funny, but she's a total bitch too.

Refuse to choose?? Just shut up and submit to your husband you stupid GOP cow. I'm surprised he lets you work outside the home anyway.

People like this just piss me off beyond belief.

[TahitiNut]

18. "Not funny" is an understatement. I think Ray Romano was brilliant

... in casting her as "the wife" in his sitcom. She's the perfect humorless foil - a straight man natural, devoid of humor or flexibility. She's just roadkill on the comedy superhighway - a home to the fast cars of Doris Roberts, Peter Boyle, and Brad Garrett.

[Critters2]

27. She was even a bitch on that show

I finally stopped watching because I couldn't stand to hear her screeching all the time. I know that responsibility really belongs to the writers, but it's interesting that they wrote her part to be so bitchy.

[Strawman]

64. I was just thinking what an unlikeable character she was

Probably wasn't acting.

[MrModerate]

6. Who says you have to love the guy?

All he's asking for is the chance to avoid being condemned to a potentially avoidable hell -- like millions of his fellow human beings with Parkinsons.

Sure he's using his celebrity (as are the sports figures appearing in the counter-ad). But what the hell good is celebrity if you don't use it?

[SouthernBelle82]

24. Exactly

It's like when celebrities talk about 9/11 and question that too. As Alex Jones said the celebrities aren't adding more of a viable voice to the movement because there are people who are scientists and things like that already involved but their voices are adding it more publically and getting more people to at least listen. Same thing with Fox and Parkinson's. He puts a personal face to the disease and he's trying to help people who couldn't pay for the research. It seems to me that Heaton is the only one here selfish and Alito's wife.

[July]

59. And they're still U.S. citizens.

(Perhaps a few are legal residents rather than citizens.)

Why shouldn't they speak out if they want to?

[Shakespeare]

7. Give her a burka and tell her to shut the fuck up.

After all, those are the values of the party she so obnoxiously shills for. You are a despicable creature, Pat.

[undeterred]

35. my thoughts exactly

[evlbstrd]

8. Trade Sweeney now.

He also sucks at first base and is hurt half the season.

[TheFarseer]

80. Who the fuck would want his worthless ass???

11 mill so he can sit in the hot tub injured all season? Maybe he should be in favor of stem cells so they can do something with his bad back.

[evlbstrd]

87. Great reply.

No, the Royals are stuck with him. Karma's a bitch and he laid it on the whole team.

[stepnw1f]

10. Not Everyone Hates Him Either

and if you do, you really need to get a life.

[AlCzervik]

11. i would love to hear from Denis Leary and Cam Neely and Michael's

others friends, i hope they come out and say something.

[Catherine Vincent]

12. I used to hate the way Marie (her mother-in-law) treated her.

Now I like it. :)

[Atman]

29. Makes you wonder if the writers made her character that way on purpose

She's not in a big club in Hollywood, being a righty and all. I'd hazard a guess that most of her writers are "typical Hollywood liberals," whatever that means. But it is kind of funny that the extremist rw cast member gets the role of the heinous bitch, eh?

.

[w13rd0]

13. You know...

...I won't call her a bitch, or call the "costars" of the ad steroid shooting meatheads. But "Refuse to Choose"? What the hell does that even mean? Sounds like a sorority for submissives...

[Frank Cannon]

14. Just keep your big yap flappin', Patty

These idiots continue to do more damage to themselves every day.

[valerief]

16. HEATON IS A CRETIN.

More people like him than her! That's for sure.

[magnolia]

51. I remember Heaton....

....sobbing about Terry Shiavo. Not to undermine Shiavo, but when there are millions of children dying of starvation in Africa and getting killed in Iraq, why waste tears on someone who is brain dead!

[valerief]

58. I guess because she's brain dead, too, or, more likely, she's

benefitting from the Rethug agenda. I'm with you, though. She's probably never even heard of Darfur in her little privileged world.

[Lurking Dem]

61. Why are those mutually exclusive?

I guess because she's brain dead, too, or, more likely, she's

benefitting from the Rethug agenda.

[valerief]

84. I was responding to Magnolia. nt

[brentspeak]

19. How many people here have actually watched the Heaton ad?

This headline is completely misleading (well, it is from FOX); Patricia Heaton doesn't mention Michael J. Fox at all in the ad! Neither do the other speakers in the ad. They attack the proposed bill, and make some dubious claims concerning its constitutionality, as well as some other things; but there's no mention, let alone any attack, of Michael J. Fox.

I'm on Fox's side of this: pass Amendment 2. But I'm also on the side of accurate reporting.

[Lurking Dem]

67. The problem is

their repetition of "don't be fooled". We all know who they're talking about.

[Kadie]

78. I haven't seen the ad myself.

I believe the headline is just a take-off from the sitcom.

I really found interesting the info about Michael J. Fox's foundation. Good for him for what he has accomplished.

[pacalo]

93. I just watched it & I agree with your point of view.

The problem I have with the ad is that celebrities were used as spokesmen, not because they have credentials in research or constitutional law, but for the sake of countering another celebrity -- who happens to have a disease that could benefit from stem cell research.

[truebrit71]

20. Patricia Heaton needs to shut the fuck up and get back in the kitchen...

...and cook me a Turkey pot pie...and then she can do my washing, and clean my house, and then when that's all done she will provide me with whatever kind of sex I'm in the mood for (whether she is or not) and she can fucking like it, because according to her, women HAVE NO CHOICE....


What a stupid, STUPID woman.... :eyes: :puke:

[mmonk]

21. Never mind.

OOOps, my bad. She didn't say it. She's just fighting against stem cell research. Post corrected.

[SouthernBelle82]

22. They're all disgusting

Whatever happened to the phrase "compassionate conservative"? I thought they were supposed to care about people. Obviously not with them attacking Fox and at the same time people with parkinson's disease. All of them are disgusting. I wish they had to do nothing but for one day care for someone who had Parkinson's or Alzhimer's who was worse off than Fox and let them see the reality of the disease. And everyone here I think knows when a cure is found with the help of stem cell research they will be the first to try to get the cure and jump in front of everyone else for it. Feminists for life and their slogan is "refuse to choose"?? Clearly they don't get it. Isn't the whole point of the feminist movement to have choices out there for women to make with their lives such as to vote? To go to work or stay home? These bitches want to take us back to the 50's. Well hey newsflash for Heaton: if we were in the 50's she wouldn't be doing shit. She wouldn't even have her "career" or be on this political group.

[theHandpuppet]

23. Heaton's Solution to Choice?

From the front page of "Feminists for Life":
"Women who are experiencing an unplanned pregnancy also deserve unplanned joy." -- Patricia Heaton

[fudge stripe cookays]

26. So easy...

when you live in a Hollywood mansion, have servants, and all the food in the world and insurance, to tell other women where to find their joy.

:eyes:

How about telling somebody working three jobs with a problem pregnancy, limited to no insurance, and bills out the ass how JOYFUL they're supposed to be, you thoughtless bitch.

[REP]

83. Even With Money, Some Women Do Not Want To Be Mothers!

I am a case in point. Leaving aside that I have a disease that is incompatible with pregnancy (and complete kidney failure/death is not "unplanned joy"), I knew years before I was diagnosed that I didn't want children. - and I'm financially stable. There's NO amount of money, governesses, material goods, whatever that would make me want to go through pregnancy, childbirth and/or motherhood with or without the very real risk of death in my case. Why don't people get it? Woman does not equal mother! (Not you, FSC - people in general).

[StellaBlue]

135. Off-topic

Top Ten Reasons for Republicans to Vote for Kinky Frieman:

(1) Kinky has run for office in the past as a Republican;
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA010306.1A.candfile.da6677a.html

(2) Kinky voted for Bush/Cheney in 2004;
http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4517585

(3) Kinky's interview with Ruminator magazine confirms that he supported Bush's Middle East foreign policy;
http://www.ruminator.com/content/040501.html

(4) Kinky's public voting records confirm he was mistaken when he said he voted for Gore in 2000;
http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4517585
http://www.ruminator.com/content/040501.html

(5) Kinky hasn't voted for a Democrat in any election at least from 1994 to 2004 (including voting for Lamar Smith and Kay Bailey Hutchison in **2006**);
http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4517585
http://dailytimes.com/story.lasso?ewcd=42e4af5ee7a4f924

(6) Kinky wants to take time during the school day for prayers in schools;
http://kdka.com/entertainment/entertainment_story_023065123.html

(7) Kinky wants to post the Ten Commandments in public school classrooms;
http://kdka.com/entertainment/entertainment_story_023065123.html

(8) Kinky is not obsessed with political correctness;
http://kdka.com/entertainment/entertainment_story_023065123.html

(9) Kinky knows how to deal with illegal aliens from Mexico; and
http://www.kilgorenewsherald.com/news/2005/0717/Front_Page/002.html

(10) Kinky's immigration policy of hiring Mexican generals to police our border is a great idea that John McCain has endorsed.
http://www.kilgorenewsherald.com/news/2005/0717/Front_Page/002.html

[Mad_Dem_X]

37. Pardon me...

:puke:

[Bridget Burke]

109. Quite a few of my very liberal friends had unplanned pregnancies.

After considering their options, most chose to have the kids. A few chose otherwise.

That's what we mean by "choice."

[enki23]

28. this is a pretty significant indication of the mindset of today's republican party

that they feel they can go after someone who is fighting for a controversial kind of research and therapy in an effort to save himself, and others, from a terrible, debilitating diease. that they can say of this person that he's "using" his illness. "using" his illness. just think about that for a minute. that's like accusing disabled veterans of "using" their disabilities to get government handouts. it's like accusing people dying of AIDS in africa of "using" their disease, and their deaths, to hurt pharmaceutical companies when they pushed for cheaper AIDS drugs.

these republican operatives are shameless, sick bastards. and i don't think they even realize how they might look to decent, sane human beings.

the problem is, the nation is so jaded to this shit it seems we've precious few decent, sane people left.

[Lurking Dem]

30. Dear Ms. Heaton,

Disease doesn't care what your political affiliation is. It doesn't care if your male, female, white, black, Hispanic, gay, straight, celebate, rich, or destitute.

People like you, who claim to be part of some "culture of life" have said that MY life is not worth saving. MY suffering is not worth alleviating. The six miscarriages I suffered were not even worth preventing.

To you, a microscopic blob of cells is worth more than my life. The things I have given back to the world, my wonderful son who is a college Sophomore at 17, my wonderful husband, my friends, don't deserve to have me in their lives healthy and happy. "SAVE THE BLOB!"

You may think you have a lock on G-d's desires/wishes/thoughts and that your rectitude is beyond questioning. That kind of hubris lands people in hell.

Hopefully, your hell won't be the kind I am living. You won't have to wonder every night when you go to bed if you're going to wake up. You won't be wracked with constant, debilitating pain. You won't go months at a time eating pureed soups and babyfood because your digestive tract is too paralyzed for anything else. You won't have to plan your day around whether or not you'll have enough energy to both shower AND dress.

Science has answers for living, breathing, human beings. What a marvelous world this would be if people actually cared about.....people.

[Kadie]

34. .

That is a very touching letter Lurking Dem.

:grouphug:

[Mad_Dem_X]

39. Terrific post!!

:hug:

[Behind the Aegis]

54. Well stated!!!

BIG :hug: for you! (As always!) And first matey, Voodoo, sends his love too! ;) This post should be in a "Hall of Fame" of some sort. :evilgrin:

[Lurking Dem]

56. Voodoo is my favorite swabbie!

Thank you and Kadie and Mad_Dem_X (didn't I used to work there???).

[Missy Vixen]

63. Please send your marvelous letter to Ms. Heaton and her management

>You may think you have a lock on G-d's desires/wishes/thoughts and that your rectitude is beyond questioning.<

Isn't this the truth?

In the meantime, people live with suffering daily because of the lack of humanity in people like Patricia Heaton. I wonder how she'd react if she was actually faced with a flesh and blood person who actually suffers because of her political and personal stances.

Julie

[Lurking Dem]

68. Maybe Rush will read it to her.

[JitterbugPerfume]

31. A very wise DUer once told me

Never ever hate anyone, Midget.

but it is perfectly ok to dislike them immensely.

thank you for the wisdom Oneighty

[Atman]

38. self delete

,

[stanwyck]

32. However, if stem cells were needed for plastic surgery

Heaton's view would change in an instant.
She's had extensive work done, which she's been very open about - to the extent she committed Hollywood suicide. (like this commercial is helping her career).
She outed Michelle Pfieffer. She committed a Hollywood sin - a taboo. She loudly bragged that she went to the same plastic surgeon as Michelle. First, you're not supposed to tell. Second, Michelle's husband is a Hollywood biggie.
So. This is all Heaton has these days. Her big mouth and big ego keep landing her in career hell.
I have no idea if she has any talent or not. I've never seen her in anything. And guessing I never will.

[Bridget Burke]

116. Michelle Pfeiffer is a great beauty & a big star.

If my face were on display on giant movie screens (or home theaters with HD), you bet I'd have "work" done. Especially considering the roles available for "older" women.

Before opening this thread, I had no idea who Patricia Heaton was. Looks like she needs some more "work."

[wisteria]

33. And, there are probably more people who dislike her! n/t

[Mad_Dem_X]

36. "Refuse to Choose"?

:wtf: :eyes:

[AspenRose]

42. I know! Irony alert!

*shaking head*

[Atman]

40. So we've deleted some very enlightening parts of the thread

Who got their panties in a wad? Some of the best posts of this thread were in the "deleted sub thread," the posts that said wishing death upon others was BAD.

I can see why it was deleted! We wouldn't want anyone to think DU posters aren't all as hateful as freepers.

:shrug:

.

[hfojvt]

44. shouldn't that be 'undies'

instead of the sexist 'panties'? :hide:

[Atman]

45. What's so sexist about panties?

I hear lot of republican men wear them to work every day!

;)

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

.

[eppur_se_muova]

128. "Let him rave, that men may know him mad."

Always preferred that to thread deletion.

[PVnRT]

43. She must be desperate for some press time

Starring in a shit sitcom for years must've dried up her acting prospects.

[Puglover]

46. Patricia who? n/t

[Kadie]

69. ROFL!!! n/t

[jayfish]

47. I Wonder If These F...

ucks would have made the same advertisement about Christoper Reeve?

Jay

[valerief]

48. Excellent point. Or Ronnie Raygun. nt

[jayfish]

49. They Would Have To Go After Nancy...

because I don't think Ronnie was in any condition to do an ad while he was sick. BTW did I mention that they are bastards?

Jay

[valerief]

60. Oh, they are. They most certainly are. nt

[mrreowwr_kittty]

52. So called Feminists for Life is a nutty bunch

They seem oppose contraception in addition to abortion. Guess Heaton thinks that every woman is a well-paid actress who can afford to have as many children as Gawd provides.....:eyes:

[Sugar Smack]

53. Patricia Heaton? Who's that? She has "Fans"?

Well, OK.

[Oilwellian]

55. Geez, has anyone read the comments on the YouTube video?

(snip)

This is precisely why Democrats shouldn't be in a position of authority in the real world.
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lolraxjimmy (1 day ago)
Jim Caviezel is such a bad ass, gotta love him
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TooncesMcKosh (1 day ago)
Wow! I love it! Anyone with a brain realizes that Prop 2 was a licence to clone humans. A true "Clonus Horror" or "The Island" scenario brought to life. Missourians don't let the blood of innocents stain your hands, vote NO to Prop 2.
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jestranho (1 day ago)
hmm, it's going to make cloning a constitutional right? So that would mean that Bill Gates could theoritically create, house, feed and train a million man army. Sounds exciting.
Does anyone have a link to the bill that they are discussing?
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izregistered (1 day ago)
Guess Michael J. will have to move back to his beloved homeland where socialized medicine is making all sorts of breakthroughs on embryonic stem cell research. </sarcasm>
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loginherepls (1 day ago)
lol...liked your post
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dfl4701 (1 day ago)
Democrats are slimey bastards.
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ccchhhrrriiisssm (1 day ago)
Liberals only "tolerate" those that agree with their ultra-left extremist social views about morality. Gay marriage. Abortion. Restrictions to religious freedom. Higher taxes of hard workers to pay for the services of the lazy. These are the beliefs of the leaders of the Democratic Party. Don't be fooled!
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rockycreek (1 day ago)
I just love how liberals pull out the Jesus card whenever it's convenient for them... You libs think you're immune from criticism on any issue just because you have no principles yourself.

As far as the elections go.. I'd almost like for you libs to win so we don't have to LISTEN TO YOUR WHINING for the next 4 years!!

How do YOU know about the Jesus aspect of Christianity?



Grow up, lib.
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ccchhhrrriiisssm (1 day ago)
AWESOME!!!
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jps123106 (1 day ago)
very effective political response. My heart goes out to Michael J. Fox, but you enter the political arena, be prepared for a counter-punch. I would vote yes on 2, but against McCaskill. Jim Talent is a good man.
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idoc20 (1 day ago)
Vote No ! The bill as written allows "embryonic" stems cell research, after abortion, using TAX MONEY, and prohibits ANY future laws from "discouraging such activities". It ALLOWS "cloning" Sect 6(2), but not BIRTH. Research - READ THE BILL . . . an M.D.
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merliner (1 day ago)
Much respect for the speed in which this response came. It looks like the Republicans arent going to do so bad after all.
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pyramidcvv (1 day ago)
You're right - this response came out really quick. I'm not a Kerry supporter, but he certainly could've used the same rapid-response techniques back in 2004 when the Swift Boat Vets were going after him. Say what you want about the Republicans, they know how to run a campaign.
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Impugn1 (1 day ago)
Problem for Kerry was that it is difficult to come up with a swift and effective resopnse to THE TRUTH.

Common sense and truth are not an "art". For some of us, they are a way of life...and quite natural. Not a contrived "response".
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JIMMYBOONE (1 day ago)
Good to see Jim Caviezel working again. Patricia Heaton is one Hot Conservative...
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cajunstrat (1 day ago)
Drudge, doing the work of the so-called media
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encierro75 (1 day ago)
What do you expect from a country that aborts babies? The Democratic Party has NO SOUL. I'm proud of these actors and athletes to stick their necks out for Human Rights and risk the wrath of LIBERAL FASCISTS!
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[Coexist]

57. far fewer love you, bitch.

and no, I don't think you are "brave" for getting a boob job.

So go away.

[devilgrrl]

62. Heaton = Blood Sucking Ghoul

What an asshole. What. An. Asshole.

:nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke:

[Strawman]

65. Another reason to pull for the Tigers tonight

Suppan is pitching for the Cardinals. If they aren't rained out that is :(

Jeremy Bonderman suports stem cell research.

[City Lights]

66. The same can be said about heaton.

:puke:

[EvolveOrConvolve]

70. Patricia Heaton

can suck a fart out of my asshole as far as I'm concerned. If she cared so much about life, she would be FOR stem cell research on what amounts to disposable human tissue.

Even on 'Everybody Loves Raymond' she irritated the shit out of me. Now I know why.

[Lurking Dem]

71. I would love to know

if Jim Caviezel is actually saying, "My Uncle has a green pencil box." in Aramaic.

[Red Right and BLUE]

73. If you can: BOYCOTT ALBERTSON'S

and tell them why. Send them your receipts from other grocery stores.

I haven't really shopped an Albertson's in a couple of years, but thanks to Patty I won't ever again.

[Critters2]

76. And Jewel, which is owned by Albertson's

She's also in commercials for Jewel.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

95. Supervalu bought Albertson's this past January

They paid $17.4 billion. I haven't seen Heaton in Chicago-area Jewel ads for months. But I don't know if Supervalu dropped her.

[Critters2]

123. She was in Jewel commercials all summer.

I watch more cable than local channels, and the local channels I watch are usually from Peoria (I get both Peoria and Chicago local channels). I saw lots of Heaton this summer, and I always chuckle when I see her in the same commercials as I did in Iowa--only in Iowa they were for Albertson's, and here they're Jewel.

I didn't know Supervalue bought Albertson's. I have two cousins who work for Supervalue, one as a trucker and one a dispatcher.

[MarkTwain]

74. Heaton played a bitch...

... for the most part, in her role as Raymond's wife on TV. Mostly cranky. Highly manipulative. Just generally an unpleasant and intolerant "partner" to her television husband.

It's been my belief that for most actors, there is far more of their personality involved than there is any art in the execution of their craft. She proves the point irrespective of the undeserved Emmys.

[madmusic]

75. Not everyone loves Patricia Heaton.

Whoever the hell she is.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

79. I'll laugh when her next show starring her is cancelled

No talent hanger-on......

[VeggieTart]

81. I've heard of "Feminists" for Life.

I haven't heard this "refuse to choose" bit. Which is basically saying, let other take control of your body and your life. And there is nothing feminist about that, stupid twits. Do I have to explain it to them as if they're four? The idea behind feminism is that women should have choices: whether or not to be a parent and when; whether or not to work outside the home; where they live, etc.

So they believe that stem cell research destroys a human life. What about the human lives being destroyed by debilitating diseases? What about actual human suffering? I mean, these embryos are not going to be implanted in anyone's uterus to become a human being; they're going to be trashed. And if you are so concerned about blobs of cells, what about all the animals in research labs who are also suffering in the name of science. Shouldn't they merit concern? After all, unlike embryos, these animals do feel pain.

And an unplanned pregnancy can be unplanned joy? Hmmm.... :rofl: or :grr:? :rofl: or :grr:? :rofl: or :grr:? :rofl: or :grr:? I am not sure which reaction to have. The Faux-Feminists for Fetal Life are so fucking clueless, that's for sure. Not everyone has the physical, emotional, and financial resources to be a good parent. And maybe if they weren't against contraception, there would be fewer unplanned pregnancies! Sheesh.

[AZBlue]

82. Is she still the spokesperson for Albertson's?

I haven't seen ads with her lately and I don't see her on their site.

But, if she is, then I think we need to let Albertson's know what we think of her/them.

[gardenista]

85. Is she the one who got a bunch of plastic surgery?

I guess she thought that everyone didn't love her, either.

[young_at_heart]

86. Never watched one episode of Everyone Loves Raymond

Now I'm extremely glad that that show never appealed to me.....I don't know her but her politics stink!

[pitohui]

88. well not everybody loves her either

you know what? miss priss can go straight to hell for my money

[kster]

89. If it wasn't a counter ad to the MJF ad,

I may have looked at Heaton differently, but as far as I know, HER ad was a counter to MJF, THATS WHAT PISSES ME OFF!!

If she believed stem cell research was bad, and did a commercial on what she believes in , thats one thing, but to run out and do an ad, just to counter attack MJF ad, that pisses me off.

K AND R.....

[FyurFly]

92. evil woman n/t

[roamer65]

94. Everyone knows Michael J. Fox...

but I had to first ask, "Who the fuck is Patricia Heaton". I think that says it all.

[Scout]

96. Patricia who?

oh her. can't stand her.

[terrya]

97. Patricia Heaton is against curing Parkinson's Disease??

Fuck her. Because that's exactly what this comes down to.

God, she IS a bitch.

[farmbo]

99. What cup size did Jesus tell you to buy, Patricia?

http://www.lhj.com/lhj/story.jhtml?storyid=/templatedata/lhj/story/data/everybodylovespatricia_01212003.xml

Just how shallow is Patricia Heaton? It seems Little Miss "Refuse to Choose" bought herself a new rack last year.

Let me see if I have this right? If God "blesses" you with 32Bs, it's time to get out your checkbook and --voila'-- 36Ds!

But if antoher woman has a two day old fertilized egg... she had better not talk to her Doctor about "choices".

[notadmblnd]

100. Never heard of her

did she earn her 15 minutes of fame on one of those lame FOX sitcoms?

[buff2]

101. "Jim Caviezel, who starred as Jesus in "The Passion of the Christ,"

I am so glad I never saw that movie. There are no limits these bastards will go to use religion for their own political gain.Why are these nutjobs always against issues that HELP people? Why do they hate America? They are despicable.



Who is Patricia Heaton? I've never heard of the rightwingnut.

[Blackhatjack]

102. Ray Romano punched her lunch ticket, w/o him she is nothing....

...so why are we listening to her opinion as a so-called 'celebrity'??

I think anyone who would join a group called 'refuse to choose' would be very unhappy living in the land of opportunities and choices, which is what a democracy is all about.

The duplicity and hypocrisy of people like her is what is fueling the 'dumbing down' of members of this democracy, and falls right in line with the rightwing conservative fundamentalist thinking that "a 'leader' tells me everything I need to know and I don't have to think for myself."

[nonews]

104. Adult Stem Cell Works

Embryonic Stem cell simply does not work. There have been over 70 developments for adult stem cells with positive results. None to date from embryonic. Those are simply the facts.

[Bluebear]

105. Could I see these "facts"? What do you base this post on?

[nonews]

106. Here is a start...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/861hhanx.asp?pg=1

This is just one article. We need to deal with facts, not just emotions all of the time.

[Bluebear]

107. This is an opinion piece.

[nonews]

110. BlueBear...

I have to go for an appointment now; I will forward you some more information later. Give me about an hour.

[mtnester]

108. That is a right wing rag

get better "facts"

Try The Google

Sheesh

[nonews]

111. mtnester

I'll get back to you too

[mtnester]

114. Sure, look forward to it

[Lurking Dem]

113. Show me one peer reviewed article

proving you can create an insulin producing beta cell from an adult stem cell.

Just one.

[nonews]

115. insulin..

You would not want ot produce an insulin producing beta cell as the body's immune system would destroy it. Use of stem cells are not going to find a cure for diabetes. Here is another article.

http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/winter01/stem_cell.html
If you want more information on the subject, send me a message and I will be more then happy to forward you any research I have.

[Bridget Burke]

117. Find some peer-reviewed papers & post them HERE!

Yes, valuable research is being done with other types of stem cell.

But that does not negate the need for more work with fetal stem cells.

[Lurking Dem]

118. They are already encapsulating islet cells.

Novacell is in trials for their encapsulation and they have 2 cell implanted patients not using immunosuppressive drugs.

[nonews]

122. It's Novocell, not Novacell...

here is the exact wording of the abstract from Novocell: "pancreata procured from human cadaver donors." Company is just finishing up phI/II studies therefore years away any drug development.

[Lurking Dem]

124. That is the current encapsulated trial.

But they have a human embryonic stem cell line that is producing insulin and they want to encapsulate those and begin trials.

You know some of us here ARE actually privy to scientific information so quit acting like you know what you're talking about.

For some strange reason I keep wanting to call you "Adam".

[nonews]

125. Stem Cell

Why the hostility?
I don know what I am talking about. The actual study from Novocell was from a cadaver donor NOT an embryonic cell. The trial that they are undergoing now are with adult stem cell (cadaver). They have isolated the embryonic cell, and they do plan on "attempting" to encapsulate the new cell in the future. The bottom line is the fact that the cell that works is the adult stem cell.

[Lurking Dem]

126. NO NO NO

Adult stem cells do not produce insulin. What they have encapsualted and are using NOW is cadaver beta cells. NOT STEM CELLS. They ar eimplanting islets from dead people. They are not CREATING NEW ISLETS.

Christ on a crutch.

[Lurking Dem]

127. kick for nonews

[Lurking Dem]

132. Another kick.

[VeggieTart]

120. I heard it was the other way around

Actually adult stem cells and umbilical stem cells are not as effective as embryonic stem cells. Embryonic cells can become ANY type of cell in the body.

[nonews]

121. not true

the opposite is true;

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

129. Baloney.

Embryonic stem cells are far more useful.

That's why scientists want to use them.

What, you think scientists just make shit up?

[Lurking Dem]

131. Blastocysts United for Peace and Justice!

Imagine if we could make them pay taxes!

[focusfan]

112. she's cruel

don't people understand what stem cell research could do?it
could help alot of people why would anyone in there right mind
be against helping other people.thats selfish

[jasmeel]

119. Everyone should email Feminists for Life and ask them if they

support war. They are so fuckin hypocritical. If you support * you support death! Everytime I see Heaton I want to punch her in her damned botoxed face.

Also, I wonder what Heaton would want if one of her 4 boys came down with Parkinsons/Alzheimers or any other disease potentially treated with stem cells?

[oldcoot]

130. I thought Republicans did not care about celebrities

Isn't only Democrats who care about what celebrities think?

[rucky]

133. I quit shopping at Albertson's because of her. n/t

[midnight]

134. I loved to watch her on everyone loves Raymond. I'm sorry to

hear her challenge of Michael Fox.